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Well i have my 07 milan and i'm looking to change my rims.Here is a photo of my car
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...Milanfront.jpg
Here are the rims i'm looking at
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...ton_ch_2_W.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...-5lug_ch_2.jpg
The bottom picture has my vote.
Nice car!
I like the factory rims. IMHO it'll be hard to improve on them.
Your rims look better than the ones on the brand new Premiers.
Did you look at any black rims with some aluminum accent?
Yeah i did,but the wife says black rims are a nogo..I like the factory rims to.I looked into getting them chromed on a exchange program.
Either of the ones you picked should look nice, but I like the stock wheels too.
Wheels on the next Vette will be Comp Gray. Maybe they won't show brake dust as bad as the chrome ones. Tht's the only knock I have on chrome rims is that they shown brake dust so bad.
I'm using a very rare and freaking expensive ($500/rim and tire) Enkei,
Enkei Wheels : 2009 Race & Tuning Series
my type of Enkei have been discontinued already.
I don't know if you meant oversized wheels or just different rims that will work with your stock tires!
Also you have a very classic car, I don't think some large wheels will work too well on your car, for the vision I mean, in my case I have a car that you see pretty much at the SEMA Las Vegas shows or those SPEED TV shows about customized vehicles like UniqueWhips PROGRAMS - UNIQUE-WHIPS - PINKS, My Classic Car, Unique Whips, American Thunder, Super Bikes! - SPEEDtv.com, my oversized wheels, 2 inches larger than the stock ones, are 205/40/R17, you have to use only HP tires which are NOT too cheap, also you will have to do an alignment job for the new wheels, that costs money, also I don't know where do you live but if you got some snow in the winter DO NOT DRIVE ON HP TIRES DURING THE WINTER TIME, I take them off myself sometime in Dec and put them back on in April, during the winter time I'm using the stock tires.
This is the place, they had a location in Toronto but since last winter is closed down, where I bought my wheels and tires, RNR - Custom Wheels Performance Tires - Home
if you need more websites to see what oversized tires work on your car, let me know and I'll send them to you, but in a nutshell you can put any oversize wheels up to 2 inches over the stock ones, larger than 2 inches and you will get lots of rubbing, even with 2 inches you have to drive very carefully on bad roads, also you have to learn how to drive with such oversized performance wheels, also when you park your car you have to work with your power mirrors to lower the mirror and see the wheel closing in on the sidewalk so you wont scratch the wheel, in my case the tire is just 2 inches from the ground to the wheel itself, then comes the wheel and then is fully empty, extremely sexy but you gotta learn how to drive with such wheels and how to protect them from all perils out there.
Best of Luck.
Chris
Also the best color is HYPERBLACK totally different than silver or chrome (I hate chrome!) and is not black at all, the best color possible but also more expensive than silver, black or chrome AND you can't find any touch-up paint for hyperblack, I went to a NAPA store where they do paint job for anything related to your car, they have the machine inside the store where they can prepare any paint you like but they were not able to do any hyperblack paint, there is no technology for such very rare paint!
I vote bottom.
I vote the 2nd one. The first one is more of a classic fast car look, the second one is better suited for a luxury style look. The stock one chromed would look good too, but they would look better in 18"s.
What size are you getting?
SUPERHYPERSTEALTH-O-BLACK:Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/w...f/PICT0006.jpg
Also difficult to duplicate without thousands of miles of hard driving. Also expensive because gas aint cheap...
(Pic taken on interstate on-ramp because that's where ROADWARRIORS pee while wannabees are at home polishing their rims.) :lol:
Nice try... but I forgive you, I like funny guys:);)Quote:
Originally Posted by srtgaSUPERHYPERSTEALTH-O-BLACK:Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW
Also difficult to duplicate without thousands of miles of hard driving. Also expensive because gas aint cheap...
(Pic taken on interstate on-ramp because that's where ROADWARRIORS pee while wannabees are at home polishing their rims.) :lol:
You can't find sexier wheels than mine!
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
I got the hyperblack, about $500 per wheel and tire, 205/40/R17:
http://www.enkei.com/jpeg%20files/Wh...%206%20hb1.jpg
What do you think?:);)
I found these in Hyper silver with just a chrome lip
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...507_SG_2_W.jpg
I'm gonna go with 18's..
What size are the stock ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcllusb
In case you're still on this thread, this two websites will help you a lot figuring out what kind of wheels and sizes would work for your car:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcllusb
Custom wheels, car rims, truck wheels - RIMS-N-TIRES
Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels
Good Luck!
Chris
How about these
http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/r...LK_2_STOCK.jpg
http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/r...IKE_MB_2_W.jpg
Drifz nos #1
R1 spike #2
Those would look badass, silver face with chrome lip on a black car :). The wheels look like they have a good sized lip too. Don't forget to check out the offsets, you don't want some sunken in wheels or ones that will stick out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcllusb
I agree with your wife, black wouldn't look good on your car. IMO, dark colors like black, gunmetal, hyperblack, chromo-black only look good on sporty body styles or SUV's. Chrome or polished on a luxury car like yours is a classic look.
Call Dupont auto paint div in Mt.Clemens Mi.
I worked on their auto core paint dept install 10 years ago and they have the technology to duplicate anything out there (for a cost of course) or they might have some in stock.
A very unique piece of equipment, how it works in layman terms it's like going to the paint store and asking them to match the paint sample you brought in, stick it in and let the machine read it and tell you what's in there.
Note: They NEVER look badass when you leave the small stock brake discs behind a big wagon wheel. If you get bigger rims please do it right and upgrade the brakes too.;)
I vote for the lightest rims you like. That's just me though ... go > show.
Negative, over a year ago I went to the HQ of Dupont Canada and from there I was sent to a couple of NAPA stores where they match and prepare the paint in the store while waiting, they couldn't match my kind of paint, the guy showed me how was supposed to look after, a whole mess, so depends what wheels you got, for some I guess they are able to match the paint of your wheels for other wheels with some unique paint not so lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager7
My wheels in hyperblack:
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
My 17'' wheels (the ones in hyperblack) with 205/40/R17 HP tires are a bit lighter than the 15" stock ones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
Can't get better than that. :D Do you have an Evo VI in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RWMy 17'' wheels (the ones in hyperblack) with 205/40/R17 HP tires are a bit lighter than the 15" stock ones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianCan't get better than that. :D Do you have an Evo VI in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RWMy 17'' wheels (the ones in hyperblack) with 205/40/R17 HP tires are a bit lighter than the 15" stock ones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
I'm in Canada!
Oh sorry. I'd like to give the VI and VII a try one of these days. I just drove a JDM right hand drive IX at the track a couple of weeks ago ... pretty freakin' cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RWWhat do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianCan't get better than that. :D Do you have an Evo VI in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RWMy 17'' wheels (the ones in hyperblack) with 205/40/R17 HP tires are a bit lighter than the 15" stock ones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
I'm in Canada!
I bought them 2 years ago from RNR - Custom Wheels Performance Tires - HomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
But I think the V6 have been discontinued, also they were not cheap but the whole wheel and paint are FANTASTIC, you can't find a sexier wheel:)
Maybe you should of called Dupont here in the States where the machine is.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RWNegative, over a year ago I went to the HQ of Dupont Canada and from there I was sent to a couple of NAPA stores where they match and prepare the paint in the store while waiting, they couldn't match my kind of paint, the guy showed me how was supposed to look after, a whole mess, so depends what wheels you got, for some I guess they are able to match the paint of your wheels for other wheels with some unique paint not so lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager7
My wheels in hyperblack:
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
I have seen it work in person.
http://pc.dupont.com/dpc/en/US/html/...olor/home.html
That's a good one:D They do not have industrial machines in office buildings, at their HQs, the HQ is for offices and lots of paperwork, business deals, etc., NAPA is the official distributor, maybe others as well, of DuPont products, the HQ sends you to any NAPA store where they have those machines inside, not all NAPA stores have such paint machines or whatever you call them, if you have a wheel they can easily match the paint, good for you, but there are some wheels where they cannot match the EXACT paint, it all depends of what wheels you got, end of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager7
Look on google earth MORON!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RWThat's a good one:D They do not have industrial machines in office buildings, at their HQs, the HQ is for offices and lots of paperwork, business deals, etc., NAPA is the official distributor, maybe others as well, of DuPont products, the HQ sends you to any NAPA store where they have those machines inside, not all NAPA stores have such paint machines or whatever you call them, if you have a wheel they can easily match the paint, good for you, but there are some wheels where they cannot match the EXACT paint, it all depends of what wheels you got, end of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager7
Here is the address 400 N Groesbeck Hwy Mt Clemens, MI 48043-1553
Here is the latitude 42°36'45.95"N
longitude 82°53'8.27"W
Make sure you use street view. You can see the name out front.
What do you think that BIG FACTORY IS??
That machine takes up 5,000 sq ft. It took over 9 months to do the install.
I was there. I helped wire it. Have you ever been in that plant?
So how would you know!
Again know your details before you speak.
I never said that link was to the Mt.Clemens plant.
RoadWarrior/RW - Sometimes, sadly, there's just no way to "touch up" aftermarket rims, and your only option is to get it refinished, after it's taken enough of a beating. My Prodrive PFF7s finish, in their proprietary British Flitter, is just such an example.
And while voyager7's option can return with proper paint match, there may still exist problems with additional finishing steps which the rims have undergone, to make actgually matching, perfectly, the undamaged rim(s) or sections near-impossible. My specific example, unfortunately, demonstrates this very concern....although a complete refinish can get the rims very close to that of what Prodrive offers, it's a case of needing to do all four, to get a proper match.
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mrcllusb -
Hopefully, you live in a part of GA that has nice roads - if it's anything like what I remember of the northern suburbs of Atlanta, the road are nice and smooth, without the serious potholes and disrepair that plague those of us who live in areas where winter chemical road-treatments and plowing take a toll.
If that's the case, then you really will have a great selection to choose from, as, typically, a big part of the expense aspect of the equation (typically, aftermarket rims are a compromise of expense, weight, and strength)- as well as weight - can be attributed to the strength of the rims
Speaking of weight, Obsidian, in approaching things purely from a performance angle, brings up an excellent point. Although the Milan is a well-balanced family sedan with a good fun quotient, it doesn't really have "power to spare." With heavier rims (and you should pay attention to the tires, too - more on this, later) , you're increasing unsprung weight as well as rotational mass, and both will cause your car to not only subjectively "feel" slower and less lively, but will actually cause a measureable, noticeable, decrease, objectively, too.
With your interest in 18-inch rolling stock, this factor becomes even more critical as that additional weight will be displaced further towards the circumference - if you're interested in keeping the lively character of the Milan, check the weight of not only the rims, but also the tire carcass. My buddy's daily-driver, an I4 manual '08 Ford Fusion, has the factory "Sport Package," which comes with 18-inch rolling stock. I would encourage you to seek out the specifics of this combination, to be sure that you don't exceed it, in order to insure retention of the "fun to drive" factor of your vehicle.
If all you're concerned about is aesthetics, then this factor won't weigh - no pun intended :p - nearly as much, but like nautica2o3 pointed out, be sure you choose a combination that's of acceptable offset and tire size, not only so that you won't rub or have caliper and suspension clearance problems, but also so that even if you did need to utilize spacers (to achieve the looks that you're after), that there will not be excessive strain placed on your chassis components.
And in terms of aesthetics, partsfreak makes a very detailed observation - that a lot of void space beyond the rims does make for a rather "uncool" look. Going with 18s, from your factory 17s, especially if your personal style is more inclined towards less "open" designs (either with more spokes or just less void), this shouldn't be too bad, but if you went with even larger rolling stock, or just one that's more "airy" in nature, this might be an aesthetic faux-pas. :o
[ Personal note: this is the very reason why I pursued a "big brake kit" for my car - I wanted it to balance out the more "open" design of my summer rims. I was never under the delusion that I'd ever track or AutoX the car, and I definitely don't drive nearly hard enough on the streets to merit an upgraded brake system...I did it totally because I wanted to be pimp.
But a word of caution - not all "big brake kits" will improve your REAL-WORLD, EVERYDAY, braking performance. Some may even cause your vehicle to have *less* braking power, in terms of actual road/street performance, than the factory system. Additionally, many parts which are designed for use on vehicles that see motorsports use only may not be suited for street-use (i.e. may require routine rebuilds). Be careful to choose one that truly satisfies your needs. ]
Finally, because you're talking about rims, you should also think about tires.
Tires are among one of the BEST and most cost-effective ways of enhancing either the comfort or the performance (including safety envelope) of any roadgoing vehicle. You should not forget this, in your quest for new rims, and you should also budget-in a healthy portion of your planned spendings for rubber.
As I've said previously, weight is an issue, and the tire's carcass weight is no exception, particularly, again, since this tremendously impacts rotational mass. Wider may be better, in terms of helping you put down more rubber to the ground, but with vehicles that do not have raw, excess, power to spare, you should balance width with not only what will fit, properly, on the rim, but also with how much extra weight you want to carry. Most tire manufacturer's websites will have detailed information on not only the tire's safety and sizing specifics, but also will list carcass weight and other specific performance considerations (section width, tread width [to be compared, as with treadwear ratings, only within that specific manufacturer's offerings, and not with another manufacturer's, due to lack of standardization], etc.).
But don't let this be your only concern.
Overall performance should also be assessed - and here, don't let the price of an item fool you. Do some in-depth research, and you'll find out that not only are most OEM tires overpriced (as well as are compromises of comfort/performance), but you'll find that even "benchmark" tires are not necessarily always the most cost-effective (look at the latest findings by Car & Driver - in terms of the "budget" high-performance summer tires).
Figure out what it is that you want - cost, longevity, wet performance, dry performance, NVH, even light-snow capability - and then seek to find what's the best compromise for you.
Oh, and don't worry about getting a tire that somehow supposedly maximizes your fuel-efficiency. The thing that impacts fuel-efficiency most is just your right-foot habits - and also, to an extent, making sure that your tires are properly inflated (something that you'll need to check each week).
:)
For Voyager7:
Do you know what HQ stands for: HeadQuarters of an International Company, a building like Chrysler or Ford, they don't build cars at their HQ, do they?, when you call Dupont at the either toll-free number or local one if you live in that area (my case) the receptionist redirects you to the sales dept where you talk to the person in charge with their products, who tells you to go to some selective NAPA stores (call in advance to find out if they do paint job in the store, not all of them have the on-site equipment) where they will take a look at your wheel and then go inside the store (so NAPA), in their lab room, and try their best to come up with the best paint sample for your product (wheel in this case), they will show you how the wheel is gonna look after that and advice you if it's a good idea to buy the touch-up paint made by them or just forget it, no good at all, that was my case, the NAPA technician showed me in some kind of microscope the closest paint he was able to come up, not at all the same as the original, he said that hyperblack is very hard to match, end of story.
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No personal attacks, ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager7
Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW
I do know paint shops that have went there direct (to the plant) for paint . The shop that painted one of my cars 7 years ago did. That's why I posted what I did, from personal experience. Maybe they changed their policy over the years and don't do it anymore. I just don't like being called a lier when I have seen the equipment (and helped on the install).
Sorry for the moron part but I was mad.
No big deal :) but you know, it's just a forum, people exchange free information and their own experience, not that the government is gonna take over this forum or your own mind:);)Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager7Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW
I do know paint shops that have went there direct (to the plant) for paint . The shop that painted one of my cars 7 years ago did. That's why I posted what I did, from personal experience. Maybe they changed their policy over the years and don't do it anymore. I just don't like being called a lier when I have seen the equipment (and helped on the install).
Sorry for the moron part but I was mad.
I needed some touch up paint for my wheels, during the last winter (when I'm always driving on the stock wheels) I brought one wheel to the NAPA store equipped with all necessary to prepare any paint you like, left the wheel with them for the day and next day I went back to get it back when the technician told me that he cannot match the paint and finishing of my wheel, too complicated, they can do it but will look bad, end of story!
My wheels in hyperblack:
ENKEI PERFORMANCE EVO 6
My understanding is that the "hyperblack" (and/or "black chrome") is not a paint - it's like regular chrome in that it is deposited onto the wheels via electroplating or somesuch process. This would explain why the doofus at NAPA couldn't mix you up some touch-up paint. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW
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Agree 100%
I think anything with a lip would look funny as hell on a Milan.
I'd vote polish the stock ones, although it'd be a pain in the ass with all the spokes you have.