V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

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09-16-2009, 10:03 PM
Grimmjpr

V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Ok, I've been reading a ton on here bacause i'm getting ready to step up to something new....Thinking V1....but i have a question.

Everyone keeps saying how the V1 is a bit lacking on 34.7 and 35.5 KA especially on off axis shots.......these are what i encounter mostly.....and laser now and then as well....but my question would a V1 be better at 34.7 and 35.5 KA then my 3 year old RX65??

I would think so...but i'd hate to get a V1 and have the same performance as what i already have.

I know the GOL results will be out soon as well but i'm pulling my hair out waiting for those so to keep me occupied i'm asking for your input on this...

any input would be great....Thanks
09-16-2009, 10:37 PM
dpatel01

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Ok, I've been reading a ton on here bacause i'm getting ready to step up to something new....Thinking V1....but i have a question.

Everyone keeps saying how the V1 is a bit lacking on 34.7 and 35.5 KA especially on off axis shots.......these are what i encounter mostly.....and laser now and then as well....but my question would a V1 be better at 34.7 and 35.5 KA then my 3 year old RX65??

I would think so...but i'd hate to get a V1 and have the same performance as what i already have.

I know the GOL results will be out soon as well but i'm pulling my hair out waiting for those so to keep me occupied i'm asking for your input on this...

any input would be great....Thanks

The only weakness with the V1 in the last round of off-axis testing was against 35.5. Against anything else, yes it will be better. Do you know if your RX65 is S7 or M4?
09-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Grimmjpr

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpatel01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Ok, I've been reading a ton on here bacause i'm getting ready to step up to something new....Thinking V1....but i have a question.

Everyone keeps saying how the V1 is a bit lacking on 34.7 and 35.5 KA especially on off axis shots.......these are what i encounter mostly.....and laser now and then as well....but my question would a V1 be better at 34.7 and 35.5 KA then my 3 year old RX65??

I would think so...but i'd hate to get a V1 and have the same performance as what i already have.

I know the GOL results will be out soon as well but i'm pulling my hair out waiting for those so to keep me occupied i'm asking for your input on this...

any input would be great....Thanks

The only weakness with the V1 in the last round of off-axis testing was against 35.5. Against anything else, yes it will be better. Do you know if your RX65 is S7 or M4?

Its an M4 Version 6.1 i think
09-16-2009, 10:42 PM
snoopyc4

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

I would think so...but i'd hate to get a V1 and have the same performance as what i already have.

Trust me, the V1 will outperform your current radar detector in every category. Plus, with the V1 you will know where a radar signal is coming from thanks to the V1's arrows.
09-16-2009, 11:06 PM
Akosikojak

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Cant go wrong with a Valentine IMHO:rock:
09-16-2009, 11:08 PM
<<JAZZY>>

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Valentine One Report Card

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2005

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (tie)
Winner of Ka Band 67ms POP detection test
Winner of K Band 16ms POP detection test
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - January 2006

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of Ku band detection test
No POP detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - October 2006

No X band detection test was done
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
67ms Ka band POP over the hill detection test was done but no detector
alerted
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - March 2007

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (SR7 was not mounted under the bumper or inside the grill as stated in installation manual)
Winner of Ku band detection test
Winner of 67ms POP detection test (K band POP and Ka band POP combined)

GOL Off-Axis Radar Detector Test - July 2007

Winner of 33.8 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Runner-up 35.5 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 0 degree detection test
Winner of K band 15 degree detection test
Winner of K band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 45 degree detection test

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2007

No X band detection test was done
Winner of around the curve K band detection test
Winner of forward facing K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of around the curve 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
Winner of forward facing 35.5 Ka band detection test
All four of the Valentine One radar detectors alerted to instant-on 35.5 Ka band radar 100% of the time one mile away from the radar gun.
No Ku band detection test was done

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - February 2006

Winner of laser detection using four different lidar guns

"That being stated, these results suggest that, especially in close-range laser encounters, the Valentine 1 is the top performing laser detector, by a wide-margin...

As good as the other three leading detectors are in their ability to see laser, Valentine Research has really achieved a level of performance that is simply remarkable."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/performance/

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - July 2009

Winner of laser detection using five different lidar guns (tie)

"Of course, the Valentine remains the champ in laser detection by far and even though the Beltronics STi-R and Escort Passport 9500ci/ZR4 (a laser jammer also) turned in similar detection results, they did it with either multiple heads/transponders or were located more closely to the preferred targeting areas, as they are custom-installed remotes."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/reviews-tests-2009/
09-16-2009, 11:25 PM
Grimmjpr

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Thanks....I didn't realize that the V1 was soooooo much better at laser detection then everything else...that is really important...i know its a long shot still but jammers are illeagal here so the V1 would be better then my RX way better
09-16-2009, 11:30 PM
snoopyc4

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Thanks....I didn't realize that the V1 was soooooo much better at laser detection then everything else...that is really important...i know its a long shot still but jammers are illeagal here so the V1 would be better then my RX way better

Actually, laser detection doesn't really matter. Getting a laser alert means you got a ticket. I would look into getting a laser jammer even though they are illegal in your area. There are plenty of people on this forum who use jammers where they are illegal. If you practice the right jamming techniques, you will not be caught with a laser jammer.
09-16-2009, 11:33 PM
Grimmjpr

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Problem is on my Jeep the jammer heads would stick out like a sore thumb and i'd rather not risk it....
09-16-2009, 11:37 PM
snoopyc4

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Problem is on my Jeep the jammer heads would stick out like a sore thumb and i'd rather not risk it....

Hate to say it but you'll have to drive the PSL then. A radar detector cannot provide adequate protection against police laser. The only sure defense against laser is a laser jammer.
09-16-2009, 11:47 PM
Grimmjpr

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopyc4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Problem is on my Jeep the jammer heads would stick out like a sore thumb and i'd rather not risk it....

Hate to say it but you'll have to drive the PSL then. A radar detector cannot provide adequate protection against police laser. The only sure defense against laser is a laser jammer.

I understand that fully.....My eyes serve me well and I don't usually go more then 10 over on the hwy and usually do the limit in the city and neighborhoods etc.....I just don't want to contribute money to the extra tax collectors with the flashy lights if I can help it.....I'll take the risk of running without a jammer......Having a RD is better then nothing
09-16-2009, 11:47 PM
Grimmjpr

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopyc4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Problem is on my Jeep the jammer heads would stick out like a sore thumb and i'd rather not risk it....

Hate to say it but you'll have to drive the PSL then. A radar detector cannot provide adequate protection against police laser. The only sure defense against laser is a laser jammer.

I understand that fully.....but My eyes serve me well and I don't usually go more then 10 over on the hwy and usually do the limit in the city and neighborhoods etc.....I just don't want to contribute money to the extra tax collectors with the flashy lights if I can help it.....I'll take the risk of running without a jammer......Having a RD is better then nothing.
09-17-2009, 09:35 AM
zerbey

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Off axis, the M4 RX65s are well behind the V1, even on 35.5. Direct line of sight they RX65 is usually a couple of seconds behind. Go with the V1.

The awful off-axis performance is the main reason I'm getting ready to ditch my RX65. :(
09-17-2009, 10:14 AM
milkman

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

Valentine One Report Card

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2005

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (tie)
Winner of Ka Band 67ms POP detection test
Winner of K Band 16ms POP detection test
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - January 2006

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of Ku band detection test
No POP detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - October 2006

No X band detection test was done
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
67ms Ka band POP over the hill detection test was done but no detector
alerted
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - March 2007

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (SR7 was not mounted under the bumper or inside the grill as stated in installation manual)
Winner of Ku band detection test
Winner of 67ms POP detection test (K band POP and Ka band POP combined)

GOL Off-Axis Radar Detector Test - July 2007

Winner of 33.8 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Runner-up 35.5 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 0 degree detection test
Winner of K band 15 degree detection test
Winner of K band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 45 degree detection test

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2007

No X band detection test was done
Winner of around the curve K band detection test
Winner of forward facing K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of around the curve 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
Winner of forward facing 35.5 Ka band detection test
All four of the Valentine One radar detectors alerted to instant-on 35.5 Ka band radar 100% of the time one mile away from the radar gun.
No Ku band detection test was done

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - February 2006

Winner of laser detection using four different lidar guns

"That being stated, these results suggest that, especially in close-range laser encounters, the Valentine 1 is the top performing laser detector, by a wide-margin...

As good as the other three leading detectors are in their ability to see laser, Valentine Research has really achieved a level of performance that is simply remarkable."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/performance/

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - July 2009

Winner of laser detection using five different lidar guns (tie)

"Of course, the Valentine remains the champ in laser detection by far and even though the Beltronics STi-R and Escort Passport 9500ci/ZR4 (a laser jammer also) turned in similar detection results, they did it with either multiple heads/transponders or were located more closely to the preferred targeting areas, as they are custom-installed remotes."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/reviews-tests-2009/

JAZZY: Do you think that the Ka guard was on or off during all of the tests that the V1 WON.
09-17-2009, 12:23 PM
Cips

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

Valentine One Report Card

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2005

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (tie)
Winner of Ka Band 67ms POP detection test
Winner of K Band 16ms POP detection test
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - January 2006

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of Ku band detection test
No POP detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - October 2006

No X band detection test was done
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
67ms Ka band POP over the hill detection test was done but no detector
alerted
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - March 2007

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (SR7 was not mounted under the bumper or inside the grill as stated in installation manual)
Winner of Ku band detection test
Winner of 67ms POP detection test (K band POP and Ka band POP combined)

GOL Off-Axis Radar Detector Test - July 2007

Winner of 33.8 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Runner-up 35.5 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 0 degree detection test
Winner of K band 15 degree detection test
Winner of K band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 45 degree detection test

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2007

No X band detection test was done
Winner of around the curve K band detection test
Winner of forward facing K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of around the curve 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
Winner of forward facing 35.5 Ka band detection test
All four of the Valentine One radar detectors alerted to instant-on 35.5 Ka band radar 100% of the time one mile away from the radar gun.
No Ku band detection test was done

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - February 2006

Winner of laser detection using four different lidar guns

"That being stated, these results suggest that, especially in close-range laser encounters, the Valentine 1 is the top performing laser detector, by a wide-margin...

As good as the other three leading detectors are in their ability to see laser, Valentine Research has really achieved a level of performance that is simply remarkable."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/performance/

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - July 2009

Winner of laser detection using five different lidar guns (tie)

"Of course, the Valentine remains the champ in laser detection by far and even though the Beltronics STi-R and Escort Passport 9500ci/ZR4 (a laser jammer also) turned in similar detection results, they did it with either multiple heads/transponders or were located more closely to the preferred targeting areas, as they are custom-installed remotes."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/reviews-tests-2009/

JAZZY: Do you think that the Ka guard was on or off during all of the tests that the V1 WON.

That's an excellent question. I would contact the GOL team to see if they remember. I can tell you this though - in the RD tests they do they put each detector in it's most unfiltered MODE, but I don't know if they change settings or not.
09-17-2009, 12:38 PM
<<JAZZY>>

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

I would be willing to bet that the Ka guard was on during all of this testing. It seems like people wanting to turn off the Ka guard is a relatively new thing in the U.S. unlike in Europe where it is probably really needed.
09-17-2009, 12:40 PM
Cips

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cips

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

Valentine One Report Card

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2005

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (tie)
Winner of Ka Band 67ms POP detection test
Winner of K Band 16ms POP detection test
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - January 2006

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of Ku band detection test
No POP detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - October 2006

No X band detection test was done
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
67ms Ka band POP over the hill detection test was done but no detector
alerted
No Ku band detection test was done

GOL Radar Detector Test - March 2007

Winner of X band detection test
Winner of K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test (SR7 was not mounted under the bumper or inside the grill as stated in installation manual)
Winner of Ku band detection test
Winner of 67ms POP detection test (K band POP and Ka band POP combined)

GOL Off-Axis Radar Detector Test - July 2007

Winner of 33.8 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band 15 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Runner-up 34.7 Ka band 45 degree detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band 0 degree detection test
Runner-up 35.5 Ka band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 0 degree detection test
Winner of K band 15 degree detection test
Winner of K band 30 degree detection test
Winner of K band 45 degree detection test

GOL Radar Detector Test - August 2007

No X band detection test was done
Winner of around the curve K band detection test
Winner of forward facing K band detection test
Winner of 33.8 Ka band detection test
Winner of 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of around the curve 34.7 Ka band detection test
Winner of 35.5 Ka band detection test
Winner of forward facing 35.5 Ka band detection test
All four of the Valentine One radar detectors alerted to instant-on 35.5 Ka band radar 100% of the time one mile away from the radar gun.
No Ku band detection test was done

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - February 2006

Winner of laser detection using four different lidar guns

"That being stated, these results suggest that, especially in close-range laser encounters, the Valentine 1 is the top performing laser detector, by a wide-margin...

As good as the other three leading detectors are in their ability to see laser, Valentine Research has really achieved a level of performance that is simply remarkable."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/performance/

VeilGuy's Laser Detection Test - July 2009

Winner of laser detection using five different lidar guns (tie)

"Of course, the Valentine remains the champ in laser detection by far and even though the Beltronics STi-R and Escort Passport 9500ci/ZR4 (a laser jammer also) turned in similar detection results, they did it with either multiple heads/transponders or were located more closely to the preferred targeting areas, as they are custom-installed remotes."

http://www.laserveil.com/laser/detectors/reviews-tests-2009/

JAZZY: Do you think that the Ka guard was on or off during all of the tests that the V1 WON.

That's an excellent question. I would contact the GOL team to see if they remember. I can tell you this though - in the RD tests they do they put each detector in it's most unfiltered MODE, but I don't know if they change settings or not.

I would be willing to bet that the Ka guard was on during all of this testing. It seems like people wanting to turn off the Ka guard is a relatively new thing in the U.S. unlike in Europe where it is probably really needed.

And I would agree with you. Ka Guard Off is something new to the forum (well at least it wasn't here since Jan. 2008) because of the whole QT threat.
09-17-2009, 07:36 PM
Stealth Stalker

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Would you two please stop re-quoting the last 673 posts before yours every time you post a one line reply?
09-17-2009, 07:45 PM
<<JAZZY>>

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

I edited my post to help with the phone book effect.
09-17-2009, 07:52 PM
Stealth Stalker

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

I edited my post to help with the phone book effect.

Thanks, but I wasn't talking to you. I was singling out the other two because I don't like New Jersey. ;)
09-17-2009, 07:54 PM
Grimmjpr

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

I edited my post to help with the phone book effect.

Thanks, but I wasn't talking to you. I was singling out the other two because I don't like New Jersey. ;)

Me neither haha
09-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Cips

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

Would you two please stop re-quoting the last 673 posts before yours every time you post a one line reply?

Looking back I really should have due to the length of the post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

I edited my post to help with the phone book effect.

Thanks, but I wasn't talking to you. I was singling out the other two because I don't like New Jersey. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmjpr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>

I edited my post to help with the phone book effect.

Thanks, but I wasn't talking to you. I was singling out the other two because I don't like New Jersey. ;)

Me neither haha

What's wrong with New Jersey? :p
09-18-2009, 04:26 PM
nine_c1

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

^ Nothing........it's just that you type a bit fast and he's a southerner (slow reader). :lol:

Hey CIPs.........I took one for ya buddy........tell my mom I'm in Lock Down :D!
09-18-2009, 04:27 PM
Cips

Re: V1 34.7 and 35.5 KA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nine_c1

^ Nothing........it's just that you type a bit fast and he's a southerner (slow reader). :lol:

Hey CIPs.........I took one for ya buddy........tell my mom I'm in Lock Down :D!

:lol: :dance3: