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Escort Radar Detectors
I would just like to put in my personal .02 with regards to Escort products. I have noticed that SOME, and I mean SOME, not all people on this site seem to like to bash Escort products. Now, I am not on here trying to say that Escorts are better than V1s or vice versa. I am simply stating that they BOTH make d*** good products IMHO (based on what I've seen in videos regarding the V1) In fact, my next detector probably will be a V1. Anyway, I've noticed some folks on here stating that Escort's are bad with regards to picking up quick RF HOLD operation by law enforcment officers. I respectfully beg to differ on that opionion. In fact, just today, my lowly 8500x50 picked up instant on from a Colorado State Trooper running Ka band several times. I started picking him up (shooting instant on Ka) as I was entering the interstate AND HE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF MY FIELD OF VISION AND WAS AROUND A SLIGHT CURVE IN THE INTERSTATE SHOOTING SOUTHBOUND I-25 traffic. So, to summarize, I'm simply stating that I feel that Escort should be given just a tad more credit for their products that's all. Oh, and one more thing. With regards to the Redline, MOST new products are going to have bugs when first introduced to include automobiles. Just some food for thought folks.
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
escorts have been proven to not pick up QT well, plenty of videos/tests abound :)
the redline is a expensive high end detector, if it's not detecting radar, why spend 500$?
these are very good gripes with a product, when your paying 1600$ for a 9500ci, and it can't pickup short radar bursts, something is wrong
or if your paying 500$ for a redline, and it randomly stops detecting radar, there is a problem, be it a new product or not, it shouldn't happen
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
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Originally Posted by
FMR6092USMC
Anyway, I've noticed some folks on here stating that Escort's are bad with regards to picking up quick RF HOLD operation by law enforcment officers. I respectfully beg to differ on that opionion.
It's not an opinion. It's a factually objective observation.
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In fact, just today, my lowly 8500x50 picked up instant on from a Colorado State Trooper running Ka band several times. I started picking him up (shooting instant on Ka) as I was entering the interstate AND HE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF MY FIELD OF VISION AND WAS AROUND A SLIGHT CURVE IN THE INTERSTATE SHOOTING SOUTHBOUND I-25 traffic.
Not having been in the car with the officer, you have not the slightest idea when he turned the unit on, how long he left it on, how long it took your unit to alert, or if he even was using I/O, as opposed to your tunnel-visioned Escort simply missing the off-axis C/O signal.
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So, to summarize, I'm simply stating that I feel that Escort should be given just a tad more credit for their products that's all.
Most of us prefer to deal in realities, not "feelings".
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Originally Posted by
Kayrac
escorts have been proven to not pick up QT well, plenty of videos/tests abound :)
X2 look at ELVATO's videos and GOL's test results. Also, I think you are getting Instant On and Quick Trigger mixed up. They are not the same thing. I hate to say it but the bashing will probably continue until Escort admits that there is a problem with their RDs against QT and they fix the problem. Escort's current view on this is that speeding tickets can't be issued via QT and that there is nothing wrong :rolleyes:
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
Here is the problem: You haven't been around long enough. Get some seat-time in the forum.
Get a few Escort Hypes and subsequent Fails under your belt, become a Beta-Tester of theirs, and then come back and tell us what you think.
You have no idea what bashing Escort is, I was (when Escort did their job) one of the biggest supporters of the company on the site, when it was really V1-zombie-land: Check wars between BV and I...
It has actually calmed down if anything (there may be more zombies now... but not of the class [I won't elaborate there] that there used to be).
The problems with Escort now:
-Their prices are so exorbitant now, that they bring on much criticism themselves: A $1600 remote-mount should never, and I mean NEVER be beat by a $400 dash-mount. Before your time, the V1 was hammered (by me among others) as being overpriced... 25% more then its competition (minimum), now that Escort has done this... they better bring LOTS to the table... which isn't what they have done as far as: RADAR DETECTION goes... which is why we buy RD's
-They lie. Plain and simple. They say anything for a sale... this cannot be even tallied how many times they have done this. To forum members directly, in advertising etc.
-They use us as Beta-Testers, then deny, deny, deny until it becomes a problem for them... for which they fix it.
-They basically don't listen to us when WE ARE the experts:
Now you might say: "Well they invent the detectors why should WE be able to tell THEM anything since 99.9% of us on here couldn't make one" HERE IS WHY MY YOUNG BIRD:
Yamaha gives the bike to Valentino Rossi to use in his races. Its doubtful that he can design and build the bike to the specs that they give him, nay I would guarantee it. BUT NONE of them could ride the bike like Rossi can, thus when he comes off the track and tells them what is right and wrong with the bike... they listen and they fix it, because there isn't one of them that is the expert that he is when it comes to using the technology that Yami gives to him.
Thus we are the Valentino Rossi's of the RD industry, and Escort is the Yamaha... they make something that we can't, but they do not use it like we can. We are the experts and they should listen.
(Sorry Yami, don't want to give you a bad name... though you did over-hype the R6 rev limits didn't you?)
Young puppy, you know not what bashing is...
BUT NOW you know why Escort deserves the truth we speak. We are speaking the truth. When Escort gives us a unit that does not deserve such criticism, then my friend, you will hear Escort get the praise they deserve, for now... they are getting EXACTLY what they deserve.
Yell at me for calling your favorite black kettle: black, but until the kettle is a different color, its a black kettle. Yell at me for the truth, if you must.
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When I was just a lurker on this forum, and for quite some time after I joined, I too was an Escort fan. Don't get me wrong, I love my RDs but lately Escort is spending too much time on marketing instead of product development and that's why I'm pretty sure my next RD will not be an Escort. Sending out clones of the same M4 over and over again is not product development. I like the M3 platform, but I can't justify the price for myself.
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Originally Posted by
AirMoore
Here is the problem: You haven't been around long enough. Get some seat-time in the forum.
Get a few Escort Hypes and subsequent Fails under your belt, become a Beta-Tester of theirs, and then come back and tell us what you think.
You have no idea what bashing Escort is, I was (when Escort did their job) one of the biggest supporters of the company on the site, when it was really V1-zombie-land: Check wars between BV and I...
It has actually calmed down if anything (there may be more zombies now... but not of the class [I won't elaborate there] that their used to be).
The problems with Escort now:
-Their prices are so exorbitant now, that they bring on much criticism themselves: A $1600 remote-mount should never, and I mean NEVER be beat by a $400 dash-mount. Before your time, the V1 was hammered (by me) as being overpriced... 25% more then its competition (minimum), now that Escort has done this... they better bring LOTS to the table... which isn't what they have done as far as: RADAR DETECTION goes... which is why we buy RD's
-They lie. Plain and simple. They say anything for a sale... this cannot be even tallied how many times they have done this. To forum members directly, in advertising etc.
-They use us as Beta-Testers, then deny, deny, deny until it becomes a problem for them... for which they fix it.
-They basically don't listen to us when WE ARE the experts:
Now you might say: "Well they invent the detectors why should WE be able to tell THEM anything since 99.9% of us on here couldn't make one" HERE IS WHY MY YOUNG BIRD:
Yamaha gives the bike to Valentino Rossi to use in his races. Its doubtful that he can design and build the bike to the specs that they give him, nay I would guarantee it. BUT NONE of them could ride the bike like Rossi can, thus when he comes off the track and tells them what is right and wrong with the bike... they listen and they fix it, because there isn't one of them that is the expert that he is when it comes to using the technology that Yami gives to him.
Thus we are the Valentino Rossi's of the RD industry, and Escort is the Yamaha... they make something that we can't, but they do not use it like we can. We are the experts and they should listen.
(Sorry Yami, don't want to give you a bad name... though you did over-hype the R6 rev limits didn't you?)
Young puppy, you know not what bashing is...
BUT NOW you know why Escort deserves the truth we speak. We are speaking the truth. When Escort gives us a unit that does not deserve such criticism, then my friend, you will hear Escort get the praise they deserve, for now... they are getting EXACTLY what they deserve.
Yell at me for calling your favorite black kettle: black, but until the kettle is a different color, its a black kettle. Yell at me for the truth, if you must.
:thumb2: Excellent post and analogy!! I could not have said it better myself. To the OP, you have to read up on the forum and be here awhile so you can get the entire picture.
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I agree with opening post.
Escort can charge what ever they want for a 9500CI, and I seriously considered one even at $1600 because of what it offers.
9500CI has way more features than a V1. Stealth, GPS, Remote, Jamming, Voice, Frequency display, and consistently better performence on 35.5 Ka C/O, I/O but not QT. If those features are not worth it to you, you can't just say it's "over priced". If it was that over priced it wouldn't sell at all. To some customers that would like a V1, it is over priced, but does not that make a blanket "over priced" product.
Some say a 9500ix is over priced, I don't think it is, and I just sent my V1 back for a 2nd 9500ix. V1 falses too much for me. Took me a full month to realize it.
I think the whole QT thing is up for debate and if it is found to be a serious issue I believe escort will address it.
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Originally Posted by
AirMoore
Yamaha gives the bike to Valentino Rossi to use in his races. Its doubtful that he can design and build the bike to the specs that they give him, nay I would guarantee it. BUT NONE of them could ride the bike like Rossi can, thus when he comes off the track and tells them what is right and wrong with the bike... they listen and they fix it, because there isn't one of them that is the expert that he is when it comes to using the technology that Yami gives to him.
Thus we are the Valentino Rossi's of the RD industry, and Escort is the Yamaha... they make something that we can't, but they do not use it like we can. We are the experts and they should listen.
You win the "Analogy of the Year" award. :D
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If i had the money i also would have a CI, but i am not at all impressed with the IX. I have seen some results on it and it is not much better than the X50 or the refurb 8500. The V1 blows its doors off.
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Originally Posted by
mswlogo
I agree with opening post.
Escort can charge what ever they want for a 9500CI, and I seriously considered one even at $1600 because of what it offers.
9500CI has way more features than a V1. Stealth, GPS, Remote, Jamming, Voice, Frequency display, and consistently better performence on 35.5 Ka C/O, I/O but not QT. If those features are not worth it to you, you can't just say it's "over priced". If it was that over priced it wouldn't sell at all. To some customers that would like a V1, it is over priced, but does not that make a blanket "over priced" product.
Some say a 9500ix is over priced, I don't think it is, and I just sent my V1 back for a 2nd 9500ix. V1 falses too much for me. Took me a full month to realize it.
I think the whole QT thing is up for debate and if it is found to be a serious issue I believe escort will address it.
X2, and some people here certainty go out of there way to make the point that that because they see something as fact they need to push it on everyone when in fact they are wrong when looking at the bigger picture.
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If you don't like it, don't buy it then. Some take this sh*t to serious and continue to bash. What does one get out of talking sh*t about other brands, it's not like your getting paid. Every RD has it's up and downs. I could talk sh*t about the V1 and I could talk sh*t about the 9500iX. I don't because nothing is perfect. No matter what, some people will never be happy. If there is an issue with QT, I am sure Escort will come out with a firmware upgrade soon.
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well not talk s***. noob like me need info!!
its not like they telling us all bulls*** its true!
just sitdown do nothing, isn't it bad for manufacture?
and us
edit:do u guys really think QT is the only problem?redline.
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Originally Posted by
winee
edit:do u guys really think QT is the only problem?redline.
CBR discovered this:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-5-glitch.html
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
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Originally Posted by
FMR6092USMC
I would just like to put in my personal .02 with regards to Escort products. I have noticed that SOME, and I mean SOME, not all people on this site seem to like to bash Escort products. Now, I am not on here trying to say that Escorts are better than V1s or vice versa. I am simply stating that they BOTH make d*** good products IMHO (based on what I've seen in videos regarding the V1) In fact, my next detector probably will be a V1. Anyway, I've noticed some folks on here stating that Escort's are bad with regards to picking up quick RF HOLD operation by law enforcment officers. I respectfully beg to differ on that opionion. In fact, just today, my lowly 8500x50 picked up instant on from a Colorado State Trooper running Ka band several times. I started picking him up (shooting instant on Ka) as I was entering the interstate AND HE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF MY FIELD OF VISION AND WAS AROUND A SLIGHT CURVE IN THE INTERSTATE SHOOTING SOUTHBOUND I-25 traffic. So, to summarize, I'm simply stating that I feel that Escort should be given just a tad more credit for their products that's all. Oh, and one more thing. With regards to the Redline, MOST new products are going to have bugs when first introduced to include automobiles. Just some food for thought folks.
You forgot to add that the ones you are speaking of don't even own any Escort products. They belong in the V1 area, and should stay there.
Anyone receive a verified ticket because of this so-called QT thing?
What about all the V1s running around COMPLETELY dead on one or all bands and not even a way for it to let you know about it? This has happened to me on both a V1.7 and a V1.8, so I speak from experience.
My .02
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Originally Posted by
bigalinwv
You forgot to add that the ones you are speaking of don't even own any Escort products.
Wrong. Most of the people reporting these problems DO own Escort products, including every member of GOL. And many of those who discuss this the most are doing so from personal experience. There are darn few here simply parroting something they heard someone else say.
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Anyone receive a verified ticket because of this so-called QT thing?
That's sort of like asking "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" It's not a valid question, because there is no way to know what technique the officer used, or exactly how your RD reacted. The best you can do is to take the evidence of the possibility, and try to avoid it.
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Stealth Stalker
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Originally Posted by
bigalinwv
You forgot to add that the ones you are speaking of don't even own any Escort products.
Wrong. Most of the people reporting these problems DO own Escort products, including every member of GOL. And many of those who discuss this the most are doing so from personal experience. There are darn few here simply parroting something they heard someone else say.
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Anyone receive a verified ticket because of this so-called QT thing?
That's sort of like asking "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" It's not a valid question, because there is no way to know what technique the officer used, or exactly how your RD reacted. The best you can do is to take the evidence of the possibility, and try to avoid it.
I guess you guys haven't been in the been in the beat your ticket section lately.;)
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Originally Posted by
bigalinwv
Anyone receive a verified ticket because of this so-called QT thing?
Yes:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...t-park-mo.html
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
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Originally Posted by
FMR6092USMC
I would just like to put in my personal .02 with regards to Escort products. I have noticed that SOME, and I mean SOME, not all people on this site seem to like to bash Escort products. Now, I am not on here trying to say that Escorts are better than V1s or vice versa. I am simply stating that they BOTH make d*** good products IMHO (based on what I've seen in videos regarding the V1) In fact, my next detector probably will be a V1. Anyway, I've noticed some folks on here stating that Escort's are bad with regards to picking up quick RF HOLD operation by law enforcment officers. I respectfully beg to differ on that opionion. In fact, just today, my lowly 8500x50 picked up instant on from a Colorado State Trooper running Ka band several times. I started picking him up (shooting instant on Ka) as I was entering the interstate AND HE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF MY FIELD OF VISION AND WAS AROUND A SLIGHT CURVE IN THE INTERSTATE SHOOTING SOUTHBOUND I-25 traffic. So, to summarize, I'm simply stating that I feel that Escort should be given just a tad more credit for their products that's all. Oh, and one more thing. With regards to the Redline, MOST new products are going to have bugs when first introduced to include automobiles. Just some food for thought folks.
My personal opinion..... Junk, if you plan on using them for Q/T or under 1 second I/O encounters. They are very good at constant on though. I have had many tickets issued from use of quick I/O and they did not alert. 8500 X50, 9500ix, and there so called Redline or "Borderline" which is all it is against trying to beat the V1. It may alert 1/2 second quicker at 80 MPH, but what good is that on constant on, when any cheap detector will pick this C/O up in plenty of time to slow down. Now instant on...... hmmmm watch out and be careful and cautious if you are planning on running any Escort product. My V1 is one good detector. Glad I bought it! I will never own another Escort product again unless it can pick up instant on under 1 second consistently.
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Originally Posted by
bigalinwv
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Originally Posted by
FMR6092USMC
I would just like to put in my personal .02 with regards to Escort products. I have noticed that SOME, and I mean SOME, not all people on this site seem to like to bash Escort products. Now, I am not on here trying to say that Escorts are better than V1s or vice versa. I am simply stating that they BOTH make d*** good products IMHO (based on what I've seen in videos regarding the V1) In fact, my next detector probably will be a V1. Anyway, I've noticed some folks on here stating that Escort's are bad with regards to picking up quick RF HOLD operation by law enforcment officers. I respectfully beg to differ on that opionion. In fact, just today, my lowly 8500x50 picked up instant on from a Colorado State Trooper running Ka band several times. I started picking him up (shooting instant on Ka) as I was entering the interstate AND HE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF MY FIELD OF VISION AND WAS AROUND A SLIGHT CURVE IN THE INTERSTATE SHOOTING SOUTHBOUND I-25 traffic. So, to summarize, I'm simply stating that I feel that Escort should be given just a tad more credit for their products that's all. Oh, and one more thing. With regards to the Redline, MOST new products are going to have bugs when first introduced to include automobiles. Just some food for thought folks.
You forgot to add that the ones you are speaking of don't even own any Escort products. They belong in the V1 area, and should stay there.
Anyone receive a verified ticket because of this so-called QT thing?
What about all the V1s running around COMPLETELY dead on one or all bands and not even a way for it to let you know about it? This has happened to me on both a V1.7 and a V1.8, so I speak from experience.
My .02
Boyeeeee I sure have, and got 100% proof of it in the form of citations that I can post pics to prove it. But they state on the ticket for radar ""I/O"" That is why I say under 1 second I/O, the Escorts are 90% useless. Tons of video on this great site to back it up, and my personal encounters also.
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Originally Posted by
dslrip32
My personal opinion..... Junk, if you plan on using them for Q/T or under 1 second I/O encounters. They are very good at constant on though. I have had many tickets issued from use of quick I/O and they did not alert. 8500 X50, 9500ix, and there so called Redline or "Borderline" which is all it is against trying to beat the V1. It may alert 1/2 second quicker at 80 MPH, but what good is that on constant on, when any cheap detector will pick this C/O up in plenty of time to slow down. Now instant on...... hmmmm watch out and be careful and cautious if you are planning on running any Escort product. My V1 is one good detector. Glad I bought it! I will never own another Escort product again unless it can pick up instant on under 1 second consistently.
Then why do you keep visiting Escort Forums.
Enough already.
I had a V1, I would not label it Junk. But it's not for me.
I understand the limits of both.
Now go and play in the Zombie land.
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Originally Posted by
mswlogo
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Originally Posted by
dslrip32
My personal opinion..... Junk, if you plan on using them for Q/T or under 1 second I/O encounters. They are very good at constant on though. I have had many tickets issued from use of quick I/O and they did not alert. 8500 X50, 9500ix, and there so called Redline or "Borderline" which is all it is against trying to beat the V1. It may alert 1/2 second quicker at 80 MPH, but what good is that on constant on, when any cheap detector will pick this C/O up in plenty of time to slow down. Now instant on...... hmmmm watch out and be careful and cautious if you are planning on running any Escort product. My V1 is one good detector. Glad I bought it! I will never own another Escort product again unless it can pick up instant on under 1 second consistently.
Then why do you keep visiting Escort Forums.
Enough already.
I had a V1, I would not label it Junk. But it's not for me.
I understand the limits of both.
Now go and play in the Zombie land.
LOL, I don't anymore, got banned!:eek: and I did not say the V1 was junk, just the Escorts if you want them for under 1 second I/O or Q/T, reread what I posted, lol
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Originally Posted by
dslrip32
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Originally Posted by
mswlogo
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Originally Posted by
dslrip32
My personal opinion..... Junk, if you plan on using them for Q/T or under 1 second I/O encounters. They are very good at constant on though. I have had many tickets issued from use of quick I/O and they did not alert. 8500 X50, 9500ix, and there so called Redline or "Borderline" which is all it is against trying to beat the V1. It may alert 1/2 second quicker at 80 MPH, but what good is that on constant on, when any cheap detector will pick this C/O up in plenty of time to slow down. Now instant on...... hmmmm watch out and be careful and cautious if you are planning on running any Escort product. My V1 is one good detector. Glad I bought it! I will never own another Escort product again unless it can pick up instant on under 1 second consistently.
Then why do you keep visiting Escort Forums.
Enough already.
I had a V1, I would not label it Junk. But it's not for me.
I understand the limits of both.
Now go and play in the Zombie land.
LOL, I don't anymore, got banned!:eek: and I did not say the V1 was junk, just the Escorts if you want them for under 1 second I/O or Q/T, reread what I posted, lol
If you slow down for a second and read it. I prefer Escort over VR based on current product. But I don't go over in the VR forum and keep bashing them.
I was also referring to THIS Escort forum.
It's stupid comments like above that will probably eventually get you banned here too. Take a valium. Enough with the stupid Q/T thing in every friggin post. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not like it's unexpected.
There are PLENTY of things V1 could fix too.
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Originally Posted by
mswlogo
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Originally Posted by
dslrip32
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Originally Posted by
mswlogo
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Originally Posted by
dslrip32
My personal opinion..... Junk, if you plan on using them for Q/T or under 1 second I/O encounters. They are very good at constant on though. I have had many tickets issued from use of quick I/O and they did not alert. 8500 X50, 9500ix, and there so called Redline or "Borderline" which is all it is against trying to beat the V1. It may alert 1/2 second quicker at 80 MPH, but what good is that on constant on, when any cheap detector will pick this C/O up in plenty of time to slow down. Now instant on...... hmmmm watch out and be careful and cautious if you are planning on running any Escort product. My V1 is one good detector. Glad I bought it! I will never own another Escort product again unless it can pick up instant on under 1 second consistently.
Then why do you keep visiting Escort Forums.
Enough already.
I had a V1, I would not label it Junk. But it's not for me.
I understand the limits of both.
Now go and play in the Zombie land.
LOL, I don't anymore, got banned!:eek: and I did not say the V1 was junk, just the Escorts if you want them for under 1 second I/O or Q/T, reread what I posted, lol
If you slow down for a second and read it. I prefer Escort over VR based on current product. But I don't go over in the VR forum and keep bashing them.
I was also referring to THIS Escort forum.
It's stupid comments like above that will probably eventually get you banned here too. Take a valium. Enough with the stupid Q/T thing in every friggin post. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not like it's unexpected.
There are PLENTY of things V1 could fix too.
X2 Perfectly said mswlogo. He sounds like he just wants some attention or post count. Maybe he thinks hes cool????
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I will say QT or I/O can get anyone a ticket regardless of what RD you are using if you do not have a rabbit and you are speeding. A RD won't give a warning regardless if there is no one in front of you to get shot first. TRUST ME! I KNOW THIS!!!!!!:eek:
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Yea the drama is getting a little too much.
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Whats up with all the drama? Not just here on the forum but in the real world. Most of the new TV shows are Drama... I can't stand it. Drama seems to be taking over. I dumped my last g-friend due to all of her drama.:D
I agree needs to be less bashing here. Just cause you try a Brand of Rd and it is not for you, doesnt give you a license to bash bash bash. Stating you tried it and it wasnt for you is all you need to do and move on.
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what kills me is that the IO/QT response time on Belscorts has been the same since the X50 S7 days, which is like 5 years ago? Only now does it seem like it is picking up steam. Belscort makes one hell of a CO radar detector. We can not deny that. Now many know why the V1 "falses" so much. Guys I hate to break the news to you, but it seems that currently there are only two ways to handle "falsing", reduce sensitivity and/or increase response time. VR has great sensitivity and great response time, Belscort has great sensitivity but poor response time, and Whistler has great response time and OK sensitivity. We have examples to compare and purchase. Which do you prefer? I know I made my choice.
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snoopyc4
I find it amazing that he gets a ticket, supposedly no alert, but knows exactly how long the LEO had the trigger pulled, come on! Psychic??
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Originally Posted by
bigalinwv
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Originally Posted by
snoopyc4
I find it amazing that he gets a ticket, supposedly no alert, but knows exactly how long the LEO had the trigger pulled, come on! Psychic??
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jEu__l-h8]YouTube - 9500ci Beaten By Quick Trigger Stalker II[/ame]
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Originally Posted by
bigalinwv
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Originally Posted by
snoopyc4
I find it amazing that he gets a ticket, supposedly no alert, but knows exactly how long the LEO had the trigger pulled, come on! Psychic??
I believe the LEO showed the OP how the gun works after the citation was issued. (They shot cars together afterward)
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
Nope, I've never had a speeding ticket issued to me in the state of Colorado. The only time I've received "paper" was in the form of a written warning by the THP right outside of Knoxville, TN for an incredibly DUMB stunt I pulled on the interstate when I was in my early 20s. Anyway, with regards to the encounter I described earlier, I was heading NORTHBOUND on Interstate 25 in Colorado Springs, CO when my NEW (less than 3 months old) 8500x50 started to brap about every 20 seconds or so to Ka band. Furthermore, I was approximately (ESTIMATED 1/2 mile away when I started receiving the intermittent braps) from my detector. Indeed, I started receiving the alert (first brap) at almost the exact moment that I was merging onto I-25 northbound and the trooper was (estimated) 1/2 mile away when I started receiving the (20 secs apart) alerts. To cut to the chase (at least during this exact encounter) even if I had blown by the guy at 80-85 mph he couldn't had turned around on me due to the metal guardrails on that portion of the interstate in Colorado Springs AND due to the fact that there ARE NOT emergency vehicle turnaround lanes in THAT SPECIFIC part of I-25 in South Colorado Springs. I apologize in not being more clear when I initially started this thread though.;)
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
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snoopyc4
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bigalinwv
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snoopyc4
I find it amazing that he gets a ticket, supposedly no alert, but knows exactly how long the LEO had the trigger pulled, come on! Psychic??
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jEu__l-h8"]YouTube - 9500ci Beaten By Quick Trigger Stalker II[/ame]
Found this on his channel, shows no RD is perfect.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COydub7HYFU]YouTube - V1 Misses Instant On 35 5Ka[/ame]
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
9500IX is alright, wish the ramp up was better and it definitely needs QT detection in the near future.
9500CI is great but too expensive. I want a radar detector, and the best one out there from what I've seen for the price is the V1. It has almost equal range as the 9500CI (CI has a little bit of an upper hand) and it can detect all QT/IO really well. Sure, that means you are going to get a lot of falses, but that's because it is such a powerful detector.
You can't get QT detection without a lot of falses, but IMO its worth the extra falses if it alerts you to that QT sitting up ahead. And the arrows really help you distinguish what is a real threat or not.
Owned the 9500ix all summer, the 8500 before that, have always been a loyal escort fan up until the redline fiasco. Fortunately I will be switching over to V1 soon enough as I have heard/seen several QT instances this year nearby.
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niran916
Found this on his channel, shows no RD is perfect.
Those two videos show the 9500ci's greatest strength, its incredible sensitivity and the 9500ci's greatest weakness, its lack of responsiveness.
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FMR6092USMC
Nope, I've never had a speeding ticket issued to me in the state of Colorado. The only time I've received "paper" was in the form of a written warning by the THP right outside of Knoxville, TN for an incredibly DUMB stunt I pulled on the interstate when I was in my early 20s. Anyway, with regards to the encounter I described earlier, I was heading NORTHBOUND on Interstate 25 in Colorado Springs, CO when my NEW (less than 3 months old) 8500x50 started to brap about every 20 seconds or so to Ka band. Furthermore, I was approximately (ESTIMATED 1/2 mile away when I started receiving the intermittent braps) from my detector. Indeed, I started receiving the alert (first brap) at almost the exact moment that I was merging onto I-25 northbound and the trooper was (estimated) 1/2 mile away when I started receiving the (20 secs apart) alerts. To cut to the chase (at least during this exact encounter) even if I had blown by the guy at 80-85 mph he couldn't had turned around on me due to the metal guardrails on that portion of the interstate in Colorado Springs AND due to the fact that there ARE NOT emergency vehicle turnaround lanes in THAT SPECIFIC part of I-25 in South Colorado Springs. I apologize in not being more clear when I initially started this thread though.;)
There is truth to what others are stating here when it comes to very short trigger pulls with the escort not detecting it. But to say quick trigger(QT) or very short trigger pulls is used predominantly in the US is overrated. Even a certified radar instructor will tell you that QT method is not the proper way to issue citations. Of course there will be some officers who will go outside of the box to catch speeders. Chances of getting hit by QT will be slim in most states. I own a X50 and very satisfied with it. Never got a ticket using it BTW for a number of years.
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v1user
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bigalinwv
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snoopyc4
I find it amazing that he gets a ticket, supposedly no alert, but knows exactly how long the LEO had the trigger pulled, come on! Psychic??
I believe the LEO showed the OP how the gun works after the citation was issued. (They shot cars together afterward)
There was no alert on my X50. If I was psychic then no ticket would have been issued or no need for an rd. In any event they qt where I live which is a fact. I currently am using the ix.
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Re: Escort Radar Detectors
Here's my perspective:
V1 - Better at QT; better with IO, better round bends than ix but not ci (my perspective)
9500ix - Better at red light and fixed speed cameras like redflex, more noticeable alert when cop is hiding with K band in an area with a known K band false (if on slightly different frequency), generally conditions heightened response to alerts given fewer falses, 9500ci also has better range in some bands.Its obvious that you can make a case for the V1 being better than a 9500, but many on this forum have made the case for why the 9500 is better than the V1.
Neither is a perfect product, V1 is clearly the most responsive product and if you are good at interpreting lots of alerts coming in and knowing when to slow down and when to ignore it, then V1 is great. If you aren't then you may find the V1 = drive slowly all the time because you have no idea if the alert is real or false.
Of course using the 9500 to do some of the filtering for you has its own risks - well documented in this forum. From my point of view, I really like the GPS filtering capability, and the red light features. I think I am far less likely to get a red light ticket with my 9500ci. The red light ticket was one of the reasons I gave up on the V1. I have never recieved a QT ticket in my life, so that for me is a lesser concern. The GPS filtering also heightens my response to alerts, and because it blocks out only slices and not the entire band, it works quite well (not delusional here - I know there is a risk of false negatives but I haven't had a real alert blocked out yet).
Plus with all these things, you have to be super vigilant. The best detector is your eyes, and knowing my 9500ci has a gap against QT makes me vigilant. With the V1 I was also vigilant but felt I had to concentrate on too many things to be effective. That's just me, but I know a lot of 9500 loyalists feel the same way.
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batman75
Here's my perspective:
V1 - Better at QT; better with IO, better round bends than ix but not ci (my perspective)
9500ix - Better at red light and fixed speed cameras like redflex, more noticeable alert when cop is hiding with K band in an area with a known K band false (if on slightly different frequency), generally conditions heightened response to alerts given fewer falses, 9500ci also has better range in some bands.Its obvious that you can make a case for the V1 being better than a 9500, but many on this forum have made the case for why the 9500 is better than the V1.
Neither is a perfect product, V1 is clearly the most responsive product and if you are good at interpreting lots of alerts coming in and knowing when to slow down and when to ignore it, then V1 is great. If you aren't then you may find the V1 = drive slowly all the time because you have no idea if the alert is real or false.
Of course using the 9500 to do some of the filtering for you has its own risks - well documented in this forum. From my point of view, I really like the GPS filtering capability, and the red light features. I think I am far less likely to get a red light ticket with my 9500ci. The red light ticket was one of the reasons I gave up on the V1. I have never recieved a QT ticket in my life, so that for me is a lesser concern. The GPS filtering also heightens my response to alerts, and because it blocks out only slices and not the entire band, it works quite well (not delusional here - I know there is a risk of false negatives but I haven't had a real alert blocked out yet).
Plus with all these things, you have to be super vigilant. The best detector is your eyes, and knowing my 9500ci has a gap against QT makes me vigilant. With the V1 I was also vigilant but felt I had to concentrate on too many things to be effective. That's just me, but I know a lot of 9500 loyalists feel the same way.
Great post I think that it really objectively explains the difference.
I especially the comment in Red
