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I didn't see this posted in the Blinder Forum, although there is a thread in the Laser Jammer forum.
Link to the results:
http://www.jammertestgang.com/OF/Jam...20R%20.xls.pdf
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http://www.jammertestgang.com/OF/Jam...20R%20.xls.pdf
Results also show only a couple of instances of jam codes showing on the guns with the Blinder.
they went from no alert no jam on the truspeed EU to JTG. That is a major thing right there. And only one E14 is not bad. I have a feeling that with the next software update they should easily solve it. The plate PT is not a power problem in my eyes becasue the stalker is a very powerful gun and that is basically all JTG. I think a few more software tweaks and they should solve those.
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Originally Posted by languy99
A jam code there on the TrafficPatrol XR is like an officer getting a jam code in the USA. Europe has crazy fines of $1000+ with possible licence revokcation.
There isn't room for any jam codes when dealing with this Error code.
Additionally its dishearting that it took Blinder this long to respond to the TruSpeed EU and TrafficPatrol XR.
how long did it really take them? I know you are a LI zombie but give credit where it is due. The m*7 has only been out since when, August, wow a total of 3 months. Also the E14 is a very hard code to get rid of with a led based jammer because it means turning down the led's so they don't over power the gun. That is easily done on a diode based jammer because you can vary the voltage but on a led you have to use resistance in the circuit or pulsing it. Also they reduced the E14 from 4/4 to 1/4, a reduction of 75% is nothing to turn your nose up at.
I do congrat blinder with fixing the issue but they are based in Europe where they should be used to jam this gunQuote:
Originally Posted by languy99
First off I am not an LI zombie go on thinking I am but I have used Blinders, AL's, and Lidateks. I have no brand loyalty. It just so happens to be that when my Blinders broke the best on the market was LI so I went with the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by languy99
How long did it take really? How long has the Traffic Patrol XR been out. I don't know YEARS. How long has the TruSpeed Eu been out? about a Year. So Blinder released a jammer that didn't jam the TruSpeed EU and raised deadly jam codes. Isn't it Blinder that says it can jam all laser guns on the market?
I don't care they went from 4/4 to 1/4.
Sorry but if there was any other jammer with those results no matter the brand I would raise a flag. I am the way I am to push companies to improve their product rather than sit on their butts and do nothing. Honestly no Jam codes are acceptable in areas which use Traffic Patrol XR you will be arrested and your car will be impounded. Not fun if you ask me.
Lets look what happens in countrys that are not the USA since Blinder is a European country and see what happens to laser jammer users
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The driver was arrested for defeating the ends of justice by installing an illegal device. His Porsche was impounded.
News - Transport: Porsche driver apprehended despite gizmo
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A 35-year-old man was arrested for evading a speed trap in Boksburg, Maboko said.
The driver of the M3 had a laser jammer inserted on his number plates to avoid being caught, Maboko said.
It had a micro-chip inserted into both plates so that when the car passes a speed trap, the camera “jams” instead of recording the speed and number plates of the vehicle.
“But police stopped him on Saturday because a speed trap failed to record his number plates, although he had been speeding.” They are all expected to appear in the Boksburg and Germiston Magistrate’s Courts today. — Sapa
Dispatch Online - Your premier Eastern Cape news site
x2 and they shouldn't be any jam codes.Quote:
Originally Posted by trailtow
Better late than never and gotta give credit too. ;)
@crazyVOLVOrob the stories you are referring to above are both from South Africa, there are more of these stories, but if you go and investigate further you will see that all the guys getting caught is South Africa are the ones that JTG. They know how it should be used, but seem to think they will not get caught if they JTG.
During September test, Blinder M27 did well, except TS EU and TP (the old one) issues.
The 1st issue is solved as the result show us.
The 2nd one, is theoretically solved (with firmware upgrade), BUT, we still don't have evidence, since the last test of jammertestgang didn't have Traffipatrol.
Finally, the E14 on 1 out of 4 rounds is... hmmmm, rather promising for the future, but still not good enough for Europe, and especially Greece where the fine is 2,000 euros for using a laser jammer.
Apart from all these, congrats to Blinder for getting that performance from a LED based jammer and of course, for upgrading using the internet and not the post office...!!!
We are waiting for the next firmware upgrade with no E14 on TP and TP XR.
Thnx for your time.
That's what I was thinking. Getting arrested for 1 out of 4 TraffiPatrol XR encounters, is still not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipinos1976
well to really see how often you get an E14 you would have to make more then 4 runs, you would need a much bigger data pool so you could see how often it really happens.
Agreed, but I believe any E14 equals jail time, in most of these European countries. So, 1 out of 10 or 1 out of 20 is still not acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by languy99
It's been a year or two since I shot laser, but I seem to rememeber getting jam codes from every jammer on a couple guns.
Has something changed? Are there now jammers on the market that throw no codes on any gun?
If so, this is news to me.
It seems to me that every jammer can throw E-14 code it just matters how often it does it. Can anyone say they shot the LI or ALG9 100 times with the TP and never got a E14 code? If so I would like to know that.
I'm sure we didn't shoot the LIs 100 times at the last GoL laser jammer testing, but we played with the Euro guns a lot and maybe my memory fails me, but I do not remember any E14s.Quote:
Originally Posted by languy99
Some guns throw "jam" codes even when not being jammed. Just panning the gun the wrong way or shooting at a car with HID lights can cause a jam code.
If the TraffiPatrol XR throws E14 on cars without jammers, they wouldn't be able to use it as evidence of jamming.That was probably a Laser Atlanta. Any jammer will throw jam codes on those, as will headlights, the sun, reflections from puddles, etc. It's not a reliable indication of jamming.Quote:
It's been a year or two since I shot laser, but I seem to rememeber getting jam codes from every jammer on a couple guns.
From what I remember, the TraffiPatrol guns did not give any E14s, unless up against a jammer. Everytime there was an E14, the LI guys would all yell, "JAIL!". I think the TraffiPatrol jam codes are pretty much, spot-on.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpatz
Traffic Patrol are extremely set-up for perfect Error trapping. The Traffic Patrol has NO KNOWN false jammer positives. If it did there would be alot more people in jail for jammingQuote:
Originally Posted by djrams80From what I remember, the TraffiPatrol guns did not give any E14s, unless up against a jammer. Everytime there was an E14, the LI guys would all yell, "JAIL!". I think the TraffiPatrol jam codes are pretty much, spot-on.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpatz
So in 4 possibly encounters with the traffic patrol Xr you will get taken to Jail once.
considering I average 5-10 laser hits a year I guess going to jail once or twice a year isn't bad
The question is, would you be willing to go to jail for jamming? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrobTraffic Patrol are extremely set-up for perfect Error trapping. The Traffic Patrol has NO KNOWN false jammer positives. If it did there would be alot more people in jail for jammingQuote:
Originally Posted by djrams80From what I remember, the TraffiPatrol guns did not give any E14s, unless up against a jammer. Everytime there was an E14, the LI guys would all yell, "JAIL!". I think the TraffiPatrol jam codes are pretty much, spot-on.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpatz
So in 4 possibly encounters with the traffic patrol Xr you will get taken to Jail once.
considering I average 5-10 laser hits a year I guess going to jail once or twice a year isn't bad
I certainly would not be using a jammer that even gives one E-14 out of every 20 hits here. The fines would not make it worth running the risk. I dunno about jail time here but the car would definitely be impounded and that would be added on to the costs along with the fines :eek:.