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Why doesnt Escort/Bel do away with the trade in program and just make their top RDs on sale? Its a pain to go to post office and sometimes we dont want to part with our old ones. I know we can buy a 10 dollar one off ebay and send it in but thats a hassle too.
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In this day and age of everything now, why cant they just offer a sale?
The more cheep cobras they get off the road the better. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by honda761
IMO Escort shouldn't sell direct at all and give there dealers better discounting so there could be better sales on there products.
X2 on that one!Quote:
Originally Posted by CJR238The more cheep cobras they get off the road the better. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by honda761
IMO Escort shouldn't sell direct at all and give there dealers better discounting so the could be better sales on there products.
What in the world do they do with these old detectors anyway? Its got to be a waste of dollars to even deal with it when Escort/Bel gets it.
Yes and no, if they get one of there 8500 or 8500x50s they will refurbish it and sell it on eBay for $200. So most of them they throw away, but there are a few they can resell.Quote:
Originally Posted by honda761
The answer is actually quite simple.
They have a retail channel. That retail channel wants to make certain profit margin and in order to insure that Escort has MAP policies. If Escort dropped their prices or otherwise had a sale they would be undercutting their own MAP policies and creating a massive problem for some retailers.
X2, well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Chariot
I agree, it certainly isn't very "Green" of them.
All the waste of Detectors (that maybe a friend or something could use) are now in a landfill some where.
Not to mention the wasted resources getting the old detector to them, or buying one off ebay.
It's all very wasteful.
Hmm, but is it really not a "Green" thing for them to do? They are reselling an old product, or they are recycling the old RD parts.
I would think its like saying sending back the old HP ink cartages to be recycled is not a "green" thing to do.
Wouldn't they make a good decoy detector where RDs aren't allowed? LEO pulls ya over, and as he walks up to the window, ya just yank it and hand it out to him through the window while saying "man your good, here take it as it don't do me any good. Use it for target practice".
It would be nice if they went to recycling centers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Maybe they do. Will someone from Escort answer this?
I dont really save 80 bucks anyway if i was to do the trade in.
1. Have to buy a POS off ebay to send it, mail it so that probably 20 bucks righ there.
Plus the time it takes to wait for my ebay RD and the shipping time and the processing time from Bel/Escort.
I say just make it easy for us, most people are busy up the butt as is to deal with it. We just want out RD fast, easy and pain free.
that would be dumb to trade in any escort newer models for 80 lol but i'm sure somebody wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by CJR238Yes and no, if they get one of there 8500 or 8500x50s they will refurbish it and sell it on eBay for $200. So most of them they throw away, but there are a few they can resell.Quote:
Originally Posted by honda761
Wow if they changed it you would find something about to be upset about I can tell you're like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by honda761
Most of us have old Rd around I would think I have like 3 old cobras which wouldn't cost me 5 or 10bucks to get 80
Sounds like a great deal to me Just saying
Mine cost around 8 bucks off ebay and that included shipping. Then about 3 bucks to send it to Bel.Quote:
Originally Posted by honda761
I got mine fast. The rebate program has zero impact on the speed you get the detector. You have thirty days after receiving your GX65 detector to send the old detector. So, they make it pretty easy. Maybe you don't care about 80 bucks... I care about every penny I save and I make a decent living.Quote:
I say just make it easy for us, most people are busy up the butt as is to deal with it. We just want out RD fast, easy and pain free.
I'm saying if I'm going to save 80 bucks let me save 80 bucks. shipping cost is shipping because its out of my pocket to send it in. . No hassle, just 499.99-80.00 we have a deal right now Escort.
to be honest if you can't afford 5 $ to send it in you don't need a $500 RdQuote:
Originally Posted by honda761
Whether I'm cheap or frugal is none of your business, I'm just questioning why when most companies out there want to make life easy as hell for consumers would mail in rebates still exists. Its going to be out soon just like land line phones, its an oudated business practice. I would not subject my customers to an extra trip to the Post Office.
really it's not but since you posted about it pretty much asking for peoples viewQuote:
Originally Posted by honda761
Point still is true you can't afford it if you can't afford a trip to send it in to save do you say the something about going to work?
if that's hell for you then you got a lot to learn
LOL, I think I will win on this one. Ask 10 people out there do they want their 80 bucks off right now or do the rebate game and I got a 10 for 10 answer.
And if a mail in rebate pisses off 1 customer out of 100 its a bad business practice to me since I consider my customer's time to be money.
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Originally Posted by honda761
you can't afford it
Just because you can charge it don't mean you should get it I'm done my point shows
It is not about money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idontgo55to be honest if you can't afford 5 $ to send it in you don't need a $500 RdQuote:
Originally Posted by honda761
I just do not want to spend 30 minutes in line after work.
then go to ups after work and spend a little more or just pay the 80 and hush about it I'm sure you don't make 80bucks an hr so 80bucks for 30mins is a great deal:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by baldaIt is not about money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idontgo55to be honest if you can't afford 5 $ to send it in you don't need a $500 RdQuote:
Originally Posted by honda761
I just do not want to spend 30 minutes in line after work.
Right but if you do the rebate and you've got a detector like a cobra or whistler you spent $80, and you're trading it in, now you have more justification for a new one, remember alot of these people are ones that bought Cobras in the first place. And if Escort offered a sale then everyone would take them up on it, with the rebates, a much smaller portion of people would go through the effort, so more profit.
I say screw Escort, talk to Roy, order from radarbusters and support the site so we can keep chatting about this. The Extra <$20 difference (of and the savings are up front) is worth it for all the education you get on using the devices properly. Not to mention things like Veil and Blinders and laser shield are also available here.
Sounds like the type of customer who just loved looking for a pissing match. They are usually the type who end up eating 10x more in customer service complaints than you'll ever make back in sales, and demand the biggest discounts from my reps on the phone. We'd mark their files "NFD" (no further discounts). If a mail in rebate program weeds out one customer service headache out of the 99 pleasant people to deal with its worth it and improved margins.
Also... took me a whole 1 minute to put my box in the mail. This basically boils down to someone who sounds like they are "too good" for all that. Fine --- pay more!
Same reason some manufacturers offer mail-in rebates. If they lower their prices, then everyone is going to get the lower price. If you have to mail something in, a certain percentage of people won't bother, and Escort gets to keep some of their money.Quote:
Originally Posted by honda761
It's a brilliant marketing move, and sucker consumers just keep right on falling for it.
It's kind of funny people get angry about a pretty decent deal. I've never utilized it myself, but it seems decent.
I think it goes to show Escort is making a good profit on these detectors ... if they are giving $80 off, they are clearly making more than that ... they are not taking a loss or breaking even on these things.
The advertisement money is enough to support this site alone it's 10% off radar busters Which is 50... or get 80 == 30bucks not 20 differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Motor On
Just think.... in the time wasted to post about the subject someone could have used to buy a cheap detector from eBay and sent it into Bel. $80 was worth 15-20 minutes (total) of my time. :)
I was adding in his complaints about having to ship in his trade in. And different detectors have different prices, so 10% isn't always $50 just like when the rebate used to be tiered for different detectors getting smaller chunks. And the site's history has had some legal battles fought, and servers have issues etc and in a small forum in a niche community advertising isn't what it would be on other large sites, so helping out with funding RD.net and radarbusters (when I need something that they stock) isn't something I've got an issue with, but that's me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idontgo55
30 bucks difference doesn't mean 30 bucks savings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idontgo55The advertisement money is enough to support this site alone it's 10% off radar busters Which is 50... or get 80 == 30bucks not 20 differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Motor On
Even if you have an old RD it still has a value, plus shipping to Escort, plus gas to get to post office.
50 is 10% of 500.00 like in this case he's talking about a 500 Rd so yes 50 is always %10 of 500Quote:
Originally Posted by Motor OnI was adding in his complaints about having to ship in his trade in. And different detectors have different prices, so 10% isn't always $50 just like when the rebate used to be tiered for different detectors getting smaller chunks. And the site's history has had some legal battles fought, and servers have issues etc and in a small forum in a niche community advertising isn't what it would be on other large sites, so helping out with funding RD.net and radarbusters (when I need something that they stock) isn't something I've got an issue with, but that's me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idontgo55
X2, well said...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Chariot