Should Doctors En Route To Surgery Receive Speeding Tickets?

There are groups that you do not hassle or for that matter in my opinion- give tickets to. The first is Doctors and Nurses, you are going to see them again. You pray its not to save your life or another cops. You leave them alone period. The other is Teachers. This is one more time when some Cop thinks giving a ticket is the proper course of action to a man that is going to save a persons life.:mad::mad: Its to easy to verify this and let the Doctor go. Sometime ago I was stopped by VS for going triple digits on an interstate late at night. I had an emergency that involved my Son. He let me go, forty minutes later he showed up at my residence. He shook my hand and said I did not know an Excursion could go that fast, got back in his PC and rolled out. :)




Should Doctors En Route To Surgery Receive Speeding Tickets?

That would depend on how fast he is driving in what zone. In my opinion. As a firefighter I am not allowed to speed when called in.

A plastic surgeoun enroute to implant someone's ego can take the same steps as the rest of us, hospitals staff their ERs, which narrows it to a small section of unplanned emergency surgeries that cannot wait. And if that doctor is driving in an unsafe manner enroute to surgery and kills someone else or themselves, or gets into an accident that they can't make it the surgery in the first place sorta defeats the purpose, and the officer that stops them and lets them go could potentially face civil liability suits. So sorry no blanket answer from me but most cases would be sure go ahead and write them just as much as the next guy.

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Originally Posted by Jstglockem

There are groups that you do not hassle or for that matter in my opinion- give tickets to. The first is Doctors and Nurses, you are going to see them again. You pray its not to save your life or another cops. You leave them alone period. The other is Teachers.

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Doctors on the way to surgery, no. Nurses, yes. Teachers, absolutely, just like everyone else.

Totally agree with a plastic s urgent. Obviously you would have to be a Doctor that is truly going to save ones life. Would you want a Doctor working on your family members brain or a Nero surgeon. Doctors that are truly professional that I have come across are not running lights or going 100mph through the city. As for firemen that truly depends on the dept you work for or what the case may be. When the 911 took place we all went code 1. Did not matter if you were in a Yugo or what ever. When the plane hit the 14th street bridge same thing. When we has the riots in DC in 1990 did not matter, no one on this side of the pond is going to stop you from saving a life.

Firefighter arrested for speeding to fire call in NC

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Originally Posted by Jstglockem

There are groups that you do not hassle or for that matter in my opinion- give tickets to. The first is Doctors and Nurses, you are going to see them again. You pray its not to save your life or another cops. You leave them alone period. The other is Teachers......

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Teachers???:rolleyes:
Why not shoemakers also!:D
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I work at a hospital and a Cardiologist told me story about a guy that came into the ER with a heart attack, they called him in to do a emergency heart cath. On the way to the hospital he was stopped for speeding, he told the cop what he was going to the hospital for a emergency the cop still gave him a ticket and then told him to drive to the hospital at the PSL, and the cop followed him the whole way.

The other Dr's I have talked to have had better experiences they said the police alot of the time they will even escort them to the hospital, and defiantly don't give them tickets. There are always ER Dr's at the hospital but alot of time they need to call Specialists for Heart issues, Ortho guys for car crashes, etc. if the cops where smart they would let them do their job. I am sure if it was a member of their family they wouldn't delay the Dr.

I would not stop a Dr. in route to an emergency. I would however turn on the blues and escort him to the hospital. When I get there it had better be an emergency though!!

Hell no. If I was a doctor and got a ticket on the way to an emergency, I'd tell the cop I hope you never get shot, or need an immediate surgery, because I will take my time on getting to the hospital, prick. That's just whack.

Unfortunately after reading this news item yesterday, i had reason to consider it application to a member of the public.

My son cut thte top of his finger off in a door (he is 9). Expecting that how the amputated part is treated is a time related problem, we all got in the car and headed to the hospital (just waiting for an abulance with a screaming child would be too much agony)

Its surprising how people get out of your way when you are double the psl flashing lights etc. to be honest I couldnt give a shot if I was pulled over, more important things on my mind - though stopping and then going through red lights if no traffic, did make one driver hysterical with his horn - god knows what people think honking at someone aho has just gone through a red light clearly deliberately is going to achive (he probably drives in the passing lane on the speed limit too).

So next time you see someone driving crazy as if no laws existed - just think - it might actaully be someone in an emergency , not just some lunatic.

And yes, he got it stitched back on by an orthopeadic surgeon, no time wasnt reall that much of an essence in hindsight (they just threw the zip locked bag in a cup with ice ), he's fine this morning, but we wont know if the attachment is successful for 2 weeks.

I am glad to hear you Son is doing well. I have given plenty of Escorts to the Hospital for parents that had emergencies. When your Son or a member of your family is in need of Medical attention all bets are off. If you have been blessed an have not lost a member of your family that is huge. What well change your life for ever is when you become a member of that club. It is truly the most life changing moment and if that Doctor or Nurse needs to be at the hospital because there the best at what they do then respect itl.

Escorting someone is the worst of all possible ideas. NEVER do that. NEVER! In fact, any agency worth a darn would absolutely prohibit such madness, and I would fire any officer with judgement that poor.

No they should not be stopped or ticketed, I also believe teacher should not receive tickets either....(in reason).

Escorting someone depends on the situation. If you have a person that has been shot multiple times and you know that he is loosing a bunch of blood and the more you excite the person the more blood they loose the more you move them same thing. When you have this kind of situation you have 3 Police cars for such a task. Waiting for an ambulance is not always the right call. My partner was shot in his leg. Had I not made the decision to throw his ass in the back and drive him he would have died on the street. He was hit in his artery. For obvious reasons you would not have someone that you could not handle the situation. You have to react, you don't have time to think am I going to get in trouble. By the time I typed this I could have driven a mile and a half. Things are very different working with a Dept of 4000 then working with a Dept of 500.

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Originally Posted by Jstglockem

Escorting someone depends on the situation. If you have a person that has been shot multiple times and you know that he is loosing a bunch of blood and the more you excite the person the more blood they loose the more you move them same thing. When you have this kind of situation you have 3 Police cars for such a task. Waiting for an ambulance is not always the right call. My partner was shot in his leg. Had I not made the decision to throw his ass in the back and drive him he would have died on the street. He was hit in his artery. For obvious reasons you would not have someone that you could not handle the situation. You have to react, you don't have time to think am I going to get in trouble. By the time I typed this I could have driven a mile and a half. Things are very different working with a Dept of 4000 then working with a Dept of 500.

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Ummm putting a fellow officer in your car and running code in your squad car is not an escort. Also most departments nowadays are training there officers to at least EMT-B and providing them with proper med bags and mandating recurring training, so in the situation you described other officers would also be able to be administering aid at the same or at least a similar level as the ambulance; having that trained officer car lengths ahead, medic kit in the trunk and blazing down the road to the hospital while someone untrained in emergency driving chases them, would be at minimum reckless.

The State Police here pulled someone over, called for an ambulance for the teenage daughter mid asthma attack, cleared the call 20min later, with the field report for the ambulance and a speeding ticket issued.

The biggest factor about being a city cop is that hostpitals are like 7/11 they are on every corner. We had 8 in my section. So getting a person to follow is much different then driving five miles or more. As for medic bags let a medic be a medic an a cop be a cop. You wanna talk about not wanting to risk escorting to emt stuff and getting sued. No thanks. Truma to be is gun shot or several gun shots.

If a doctor is on their way to a life-saving situation, then the correct move for the officer (imo) would be to get back into his car, turn on his sirens, and shout, "Follow me!" to the doctor as they both head for the hospital.

If it turns out that there is no life-threatening emergency and the doctor was just trying to get out of a ticket, then write him the biggest ticket of his life and wish him good luck explaining to his bosses why he's being detained in the parking lot while a police officer dismantles his car to search for narcotics.

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Originally Posted by tjbender

while a police officer dismantles his car to search for narcotics.

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Did they finally get rid of the constitution entirely in California?

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while a police officer dismantles his car to search for narcotics.

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Did they finally get rid of the constitution entirely in California?

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After trying in vain to do my taxes, I can safely say that yes, yes they have.

Its really pretty simple if you were to get caught not telling the truth. A cop would face dis plenary action from being suspended to termination for the catch all "Conduct unbecoming of and Officer" The doctor would be in trouble from the Medical board. We are not talking about rocket science here. Its funny to think one would be fired for such a thing. That is the difference between being cop in the city and a cop in a suburb. Hell Tom Hanks got a NY City police escort when he was shooting Conan O'Brien last night so that he could make it to the telethon for Haiti across town. Beverly Hills Cops escort the Stars all the time while they are in there Maserati they well shut down the roads. Michael Jackson family they shut down and entire interstate, the family was the only one on the entire interstate going to the funeral. I guarantee you the chief would have someones ass for not giving them an escort. Last Christmas I was a body guard for a well know actress. We went from DC to Tyson's Galleria, with a police escort. Thats about 15miles. My first time in a Maybach, what a ride and the woman I was with ..I was in heaven.