L1 Dual and FHP

Had some questions for the guys running L1 dual in FL. Especially in Palm Bch area and south FL. Have gotten nailed in Palm Bch. area around PGA. I have to travel this stretch on 95 and pike for work. I am in Brevard and no work in this area so I have to commute daily when there is work. was stopped by FHP and Sheriff (silver unmarked Challenger). Last one was FHP (unmarked white Challenger) he was using a Stalker dual at least that was what was on the ticket. Would like to know if the Stalker is used through out South FL. with FHP and Sheriff. I watched a few videos with the L1 dual vs the stalker and there was success with cars, and with a flatbed going about 30mph. I have a Dark Blue F150 super cab will I have success with the L1 dual on this truck. Also if there is a Radar Detector that you would recommend to go along with the L1 please let me know. If I wanted to add more heads later does the L1 Dual have expandable ports or does it only have the 2 for the 2 heads. If L1 wont work for me what is recommended. Also saw a biased buy who wasnt happy with customer service of the L1. Just curious how some people on her felt about their customer service. Any info is appreciated
Thanks

Stalker Dual is radar not lidar!!!

If Cliff at LI's customer service did not make someone happy, nothing will!!! Cliff is the best ae doing right by his customers!!!

A couple things.

It's called LI for Laser Interceptor.

Second, a Stalker Dual is probably referring to the 34.7 Ka radar that is used by FHP, along with many police and sheriff's departments. They also use 35.5 Kustom radar guns. For this, you'll need a radar detector. As to what radar detector to use, it comes down to preference and how much you are willing to spend.

The LI is only for laser guns. Up here, when I see FHP using laser, it's usually a Laser Atlanta gun, though I know there are others. Down there, you're probably also seeing PLIIIs and Pro Lites. The LI, along with most other jamming systems, will take care of those guns.

Two LI heads, or 3/4 Blinder heads should be enough for most, if not all shooting scenarios, though testing would be needed to be sure. More heads can be added to the LI if needed.

As far as the service, it seems everyone here who has dealt with Cliff has nothing but good things to say about his service. :)

My LI doesn't jam Stalker radar, I want my money back :p

Your in my part of town. I know the white/black/silver/light blue unmarked chargers very well. They mostly run KA-band. The silver one loves laser as he uses LA. They patrol I-95 especially the carpool lane. The white unmark charger and his buddy white unmark Impala LOVES to camp out under the Okeechobee bridge like trolls. I encounter them around the area 50% of the time either in ambush position or with a customer. PGA is guarded by Palm beach police and only a few troops uses PL3, they mostly run KA.
To protect your car, you got 2 choices. A 4-head Blinder system or the LI-Dual. I personally like LI but both will give great customer support or service. As for radar, I have used the Rx-75, Escort X50, 9500CI, and V1. I love the V1 and thats never gonna change. False alert on K-band is minimal on highway but chatty in city unless you config the V1 to supress K-band alert in Little "L" mode.

ELVATO
Thanks for the correction on the unit I am new to this and trying to learn as much as I can before I make purchases. work been slow and money tight tired of giving to leos ego.

DrCoke
Thanks for the info. since U are in this area U think it is worth obtaining the LI due to there are enough of them running Laser? U mentioned a V1 for radar. What kind of response time do you have to react? also in your opinion what percent of them run radar and what percent run laser? on the V1 is there a readme on config of the V1 to supress K-band alert in Little "L" mode?
Thanks again for the info guys

What's a L"1"???

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Originally Posted by nick0

Also saw a biased buy who wasnt happy with customer service of the L1.
Thanks

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Did he buy his LI in the days of B.C.(Before Cliff)? :D

I've only ever seen one comment from a customer who wasn't satisfied with LI's customer service in the last two years, and that guy simply could not be satisfied, no matter what. They sent him a post paid mailer to return the product, but instead, he just kept it and complained about it. Some people just live to whine.

Anyone using the Veil in the mid FL. and south area how well does it work for you. Also anyone else have recommendations for a radar detector for these areas. DrCoke recommended some look like good units but are pricey. Looks like most do both but if used in accordance with LI what detector is relevant. If I am to purchase the LI do I need a detector for laser? Also is applying veil necessary if using LI.
Any info is appreciated

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Originally Posted by nick0

Anyone using the Veil in the mid FL. and south area how well does it work for you. Also anyone else have recommendations for a radar detector for these areas. DrCoke recommended some look like good units but are pricey. Looks like most do both but if used in accordance with LI what detector is relevant. If I am to purchase the LI do I need a detector for laser? Also is applying veil necessary if using LI.
Any info is appreciated

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If you have LI installed on your car you don't need detector for laser neither veil
Your LI will do the job perfect! ;)

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Anyone using the Veil in the mid FL. and south area how well does it work for you. Also anyone else have recommendations for a radar detector for these areas. DrCoke recommended some look like good units but are pricey. Looks like most do both but if used in accordance with LI what detector is relevant. If I am to purchase the LI do I need a detector for laser? Also is applying veil necessary if using LI.
Any info is appreciated

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Veil isn't necessary, but it can't hurt to use it. A radar detector capable of laser is still recommended. It will help catch and scatter that your jammer misses, and also let you know if the LEO is hitting you after you've killed the jammer.

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DrCoke
Thanks for the info. since U are in this area U think it is worth obtaining the LI due to there are enough of them running Laser? U mentioned a V1 for radar. What kind of response time do you have to react? also in your opinion what percent of them run radar and what percent run laser? on the V1 is there a readme on config of the V1 to supress K-band alert in Little "L" mode?
Thanks again for the info guys

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I wouldnt trust anything for myself other than LI at the moment. LI is a beast of a jammer and has amazing support thanks to Cliff. I get hit by lidar just about every month. I also get targeted from the rear at least once a year. I can prove it with a yellow pager. The V1 will give you the same second response as the leo pulls the trigger and the alert goes away as the leo stops. Cant say the same for Escort even with there $1,600 CI unit. I have ran alot of radar and favor V1 plus LI. V1 + LI is still cheaper than a 9500CI. We have Red light cameras so a cheetah GPS may be needed and the cheetah can also link to the V1 to add GPS silencer where K-band does not alert under a certain MPH while your in the car. Go to the V1 stickey for K-band suppression.

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Originally Posted by nick0

Anyone using the Veil in the mid FL. and south area how well does it work for you. Also anyone else have recommendations for a radar detector for these areas. DrCoke recommended some look like good units but are pricey. Looks like most do both but if used in accordance with LI what detector is relevant. If I am to purchase the LI do I need a detector for laser? Also is applying veil necessary if using LI.
Any info is appreciated

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I own Veil G4 and yes, Veil works. Veil was used on my last car when I only had the 9500CI with the ZR4. With Veil. I had no consistant PT on my BLACK SMALL HONDA <400ft with any guns I got my heads on. <400ft was Instant PT with every gun but PL3. If you had the LI, I dont think you will need Veil unless your test failed with a properly mounted LI unit.

If you want a good radar, your gonna have to pay. A ticket will cost around $200 + insurance increase over 5 years. Work out the math, I had no issue buying the V1, LI, or the over priced 9500CI. I buy what works.

Dont bother ever to buy a radar and expect it to save you from laser. laser protection from radar = Instant noob fail. Dont be a part of it.

To OP

I live and work in Palm Beach County. I have a V1 and a LI on my Civic. Both work as advertised.

I would say that having a LI is a must down here. FHP uses laser as does West Palm Beach Police and possibly the Sheriff's department. You will encounter mostly Prolaser 3 (FHP and West Palm Beach Police), Ultralyte (West Palm Beach Police) and Laser Atlanta (FHP). Fortunately, the LI jams all of these guns and more. It's expensive, but worth it. Do NOT rely on a radar detector to protect you from laser threats - by the time it goes off, they already have your speed, trust me.

For radar, I would recommend the V1, but there are many other options. If you go with the V1, enable K band automute settings, so you aren't driven crazy by the constant K band false alarm sources in the city. FHP uses a lot of Ka - I don't know the frequencies because I no longer run an Escort product - but it's mostly CO and occasionally IO. Use rabbits to avoid IO. This has actually saved me on the turnpike before. FHP likes to sit in the breakdown lane and shoot you in the back after you pass - be extra careful in the HOV (carpool) lane. They also use the rear antenna and target you on the approach - I've seen this tactic with IO. There are lots of undercover chargers (as you know) so be on the lookout for them.

Good luck.

Oh yeah, LI customer service with Cliff is excellent, no question about that.

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I also get targeted from the rear at least once a year. I can prove it with a yellow pager.

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I'm a noob (be kind) , what's a yellow pager ?

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I'm a noob (be kind) , what's a yellow pager ?

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I think he got a citation.

Likely a typo

yellow pager = Yellow paPer

I live in SW FLA and travel between Orlando and Miami about twice a week.

Besides Aligator alley, I have only saw FHP running laser on the interstate a handful of times. Mostly they are running Ka.

Usually CO but sometimes IO.


However in the cities they run laser a lot.


They also drive around with they're Ka on all the time like beacons saying here comes a cop.


My opinion is to get a V1. I get alerts on the interstate well ahead of time to slow down if its CO. IO is another story but with all the traffic down here I end up getting a good warning.

FHP has been running I/O KA band a lot more the past few months.

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FHP has been running I/O KA band a lot more the past few months.

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I got IO'ed (or however you spell it) last weekend by FHP. I saw the marked cruiser in the breakdown lane long before he triggered it. Not sure why he bothered at that point.

This is how fhp does I/O. They completely suck at it in MOST cases. Only a handful of times they hide in areas that I can't spot before being hit. Port st lucie is good at hiding.

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This is how fhp does I/O. They completely suck at it in MOST cases. Only a handful of times they hide in areas that I can't spot before being hit. Port st lucie is good at hiding.

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Well, let's hope they don't change up their tactics.

Interesting experience though - he pulled over someone after we passed him. No alert from my wife's Passport 8500 x50. I wonder if the V1 with it's rear facing antennae would have alerted to it.

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Originally Posted by justin81

No alert from my wife's Passport 8500 x50. I wonder if the V1 with it's rear facing antennae would have alerted to it.

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"The Valentine One has won every rear radar detection test that has been done, the last test that gave actual distances was conducted in the year 2000. Radartest.com hates the V1 and this is what they said about the V1's rear radar detection, "We found it gave anywhere from two to three times the detection range of the other units." According to the SML test, the V1 beats every radar detector by at least 2 miles in rear Ka band detection."

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No alert from my wife's Passport 8500 x50. I wonder if the V1 with it's rear facing antennae would have alerted to it.

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"The Valentine One has won every rear radar detection test that has been done, the last test that gave actual distances was conducted in the year 2000. Radartest.com hates the V1 and this is what they said about the V1's rear radar detection, "We found it gave anywhere from two to three times the detection range of the other units." According to the SML test, the V1 beats every radar detector by at least 2 miles in rear Ka band detection."

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LOL, did you really just post test results from radartest.com. I agree though the V1 is the best with rear detection.

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Originally Posted by ELVATO

A couple things.


Two LI heads, or 3/4 Blinder heads should be enough for most, if not all shooting scenarios, though testing would be needed to be sure. More heads can be added to the LI if needed.
:)

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I have a question on that, why is two LI heads enough? I just received and will have installed on June 28 a LI quad unit on my Honda CR-V to cover both front and rear, or do all you need is one head for front and one head for the rear?

Post pic on you cvr on the "advice on placement" area and we will answer your question.

I don't know what you mean by post pic on you cvr on the "install advise" area has to do with my question? I just asked a question can a LI dual cover front and rear effectively versus having quads. I'm having quads installed in 10 days.

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...can a LI dual cover front and rear effectively versus having quads. I'm having quads installed in 10 days.

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No, it can't. ELVATO was speaking only of front coverage, which for some odd reason, a lot of people think is all they need.

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Originally Posted by DrCoke

This is how fhp does I/O. They completely suck at it in MOST cases. Only a handful of times they hide in areas that I can't spot before being hit. Port st lucie is good at hiding.

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I have nearly been nabbed by this tactic a few times at night in poorly lit areas. Luckily I had traffic around me that didn't slow down (while I detected it and did slow down). Sheer luck on my part.

Thank you.