LI vs Blinder M47

I have purchased my V1 and waiting on it to arrive. Now I am looking to get a jammer. I am almost convinced that the LI is the was to go. After getting great info from DrCoke, Justin81, and others on the forum info is much appreciated by the way. I am worried that the Dual with just the 2 heads will not be sufficient for my F150 supercab. for front and rear protection. I looked at the M47 and it has 4 heads for around same price but not sure about protection. Anyone in south Fl have comment on M47. protection. Also after doing lots of research I saw this posted about a lawsuit Between blinder and LI. Any Truth to this:



On the 25th of August, 2009 Blinder International, manufacturer of the M27/M47 Xtreme ,filed suit in federal court against Clifford M. Crane. Cliff Crane is the owner and operator of Laser Interceptor USA. For a while Blinder has threatened people and companies about this kind of legal action, but nobody seemed to heed the warning. Blinder International's patent specifically talks about 'look up tables' and 'generic jamming' algorithms. These two patented technologies are used to defeat police speed laser guns in a stealthy way(less jam codes). It's a well known fact that Laser Interceptor uses a 'look up table' and generic jamming, specifically cited many times by Cliff and Ivan on numerous venues.


Laser Interceptor promises and warranties. Will they last?

If you're thinking about purchasing a Laser Interceptor you should think about one thing.

1. Will you still have warranty service and updates if Cliff has to abide by a cease and desist order from the court? (USA only)

Indirect patent infringement warning to consumers

The lawsuit cited above doesn't have a ruling yet. Be forewarned that if Blinder International wins in New York, any person or company that imports the patent infringing device, whether it be for 'warranty service' or 'updates', will be directly responsible for knowingly importing an infringing device into the country. Such an act is punishable in civil court due to indirect patent infringement. It could take several years for this lawsuit to be over with, but the question is....do you want to worry about getting sued if Laser Interceptor loses? It's simply not worth the trouble and risk in my opinion.

Any info is appreciated
Thanks

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Originally Posted by nick0

I am worried that the Dual with just the 2 heads will not be sufficient for my F150 supercab.

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I have a Laser Interceptor Dual on my F-150 and it does extremely well both in the real world and in testing.

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Laser Interceptor promises and warranties. Will they last?

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IMO Yes. I've talked with Cliff many times before and I think he will do whatever is necessary to keep LI running regardless of how the lawsuit goes. He is one of the most dedicated people to the police countermeasure industry.

Please see attachment.

Nick0: Email me directly at cliff@laser-interceptorusa.com and I will send you a copy as your post count may be too low to read attachments.

You also need to be dubious of the author of that info, his motives and personal agenda! Read here: http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-24-7-a-8.html

Cliff

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Originally Posted by nick0

I am worried that the Dual with just the 2 heads will not be sufficient for my F150 supercab. for front and rear protection.

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The non-motorcycle vehicle does not exist that can be competently protected, front and back, with only two heads of any jammer. Two heads per end MINIMUM any car or truck, unless you want to blow all that money on a gamble.

An M47 will do the front end only of your F150, but not front and rear. And with the limited mounting options on the rear, you'd need the same there too.

U have the Dual so you have one head in front and one in rear and U are protected? Are U running any veil on front or rear of F150?
Thanks for the info

Nick0,

What color is the F150? What kind of grille (there are several types on the F150)? Square or round fog lights? Do you have the headlamps with the chrome background, the FX2 style (grey) or the Harley style (black)? Depending on the config 2 Blinder heads in the front might work, or it might be total ownage. In my situation 2 heads up front work very well but I have the smaller fogs (the round ones), a black truck, no front tag and the Harley style headlamps.

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Originally Posted by nick0

U have the Dual so you have one head in front and one in rear and U are protected? Are U running any veil on front or rear of F150?
Thanks for the info

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snoopyc4 has the LI Dual, both sensors up front, none on the back.

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Originally Posted by nick0

U have the Dual so you have one head in front and one in rear and U are protected? Are U running any veil on front or rear of F150?
Thanks for the info

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I have both of the LI heads up front and I do run Veil:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...tallation.html

My F150 is the 2000 yr model, dk blue with the honeycomb grill. My head lamps have the chrome backing on them (aftermarket). If I put both heads of the Dual up front, what do I need for the rear of the truck?
Any info is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by nick0

My F150 is the 2000 yr model, dk blue with the honeycomb grill. My head lamps have the chrome backing on them (aftermarket). If I put both heads of the Dual up front, what do I need for the rear of the truck?
Any info is appreciated.

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I would go with LI HP Dual on the rear. The rear on any truck is EXTREMELY hard to protect and requires the best protection.

I would be concerned about the headlamps since the are so big on the F150. Not as bad on the 2000 as the 2004+, but still pretty big. You could get away with Blinders on the front if you Veiled the headlights and you don't have a front tag. The honeycomb grill is a black hole, no laser reflection off it. :)

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Originally Posted by The Chariot

I would be concerned about the headlamps since the are so big on the F150. Not as bad on the 2000 as the 2004+, but still pretty big. You could get away with Blinders on the front if you Veiled the headlights and you don't have a front tag. The honeycomb grill is a black hole, no laser reflection off it. :)

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Sometimes the radiator behind the grille is problematic.

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Originally Posted by djrams80

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Originally Posted by The Chariot

I would be concerned about the headlamps since the are so big on the F150. Not as bad on the 2000 as the 2004+, but still pretty big. You could get away with Blinders on the front if you Veiled the headlights and you don't have a front tag. The honeycomb grill is a black hole, no laser reflection off it. :)

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Sometimes the radiator behind the grille is problematic.

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Mine has the AC heat exchanger in front of the radiator and its painted black. Don't know about his year (model change at 2004) though. :(

There is a serious misconception that black does not reflect laser. It does, albeit less than white or colours do. As I often point out, I have got readings off the back of a jogger wearing a black running suit at 2500 feet.

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Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

There is a serious misconception that black does not reflect laser. It does, albeit less than white or colours do. As I often point out, I have got readings off the back of a jogger wearing a black running suit at 2500 feet.

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I got readings off a black flying vulture at several hundred feet! However, even though it does reflect it does tend not to reflect nearly as much, since the carbon used in black paint pigments tends to have the property of blocking a great deal more IR than visible light (which is why its the "active" ingredient in Veil). All other things being equal I'd take a black grill over a white one for stealth. :)

Noticed you spelling of colours... do you originate from Canada, UK, etc?

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All other things being equal I'd take a black grill over a white one for stealth. :)

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No doubt! Every little bit helps! I knew that you knew that. I just hate to feed the misconception of the n00bs who think they are going to get by with passive countermeasures only.

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Noticed you spelling of colours... do you originate from Canada, UK, etc?

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Family from South Africa.

So I'm at the decision point for my used Infiniti M35X, White, with the chrome grill.
1) Is the added cost of the LI vs. the Blinder M27 really worth it?
2) I don't have a Pick-up truck, do I need HP or regular?
3) when I do the rear, the head spread is gonna be only 15" is that enough for good protection?
3) When the GoL did their 2007/2008 tests, and Radar Roy's RV, did they use HP, or Regular LI heads?

I'm so confused! ;>\

BTW, my driving habit is usually <10 over PSL without CM, I probably won't do >15 over PSL with CM.

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1) Is the added cost of the LI vs. the Blinder M27 really worth it?

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Yes. The LI is definitely worth the extra cost.

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2) I don't have a Pick-up truck, do I need HP or regular?

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I think you'll be fine with the regular LI. I have one on my truck and I get great results in testing and in the real world.

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3) when I do the rear, the head spread is gonna be only 15" is that enough for good protection?

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Only way to know for sure is to get it tested.

Thanks

Ive taken pix of my front and rear (of the M35) and will try to find the Advice area to ask for placement advice.