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laser range finder to test laser shifter?
i own a sniper rifle and i use a laser ranger finder (bushnell elite 1500 with arc) to measure the distance to my targets i can get targets up to 1500 yards ( deer ,moose,,) it even has a brush mode to make the laser a bit finer to penetrate brushy areas ,could i use this to test a laser shifter?
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no? well when i shoot my laser rangefinder at my 9500ix ,wy do i get an instant laser alert
a laser device that measures speed or distance uses the same technology
so if some of you guys out there wanna a cheaper way to test out your laser shifters instead of getting a 1000$ plus police laser gun ,there ya go a good way to fine tune it
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:lol: Not that simple, you can see if it'll detect that wavelength of light with a TV remote, but if you want to see if they're effective that's a whole different ball game.
Now be careful with the "sinper rilfe" that's http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...14-MC_mark.JPG stuff
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A laser range finder is nothing like a tv remote laser , the laser that comes out of a laser range finder is identical as the laser that comes out of a lidar police gun
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Okay, I'm wrong. I have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't own any lidar guns or laser jammers. And I've never tested any of this stuff. I'm just making it all up. My apologies. :rolleyes:
Luckily, most people here are smart enough to ignore you.
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Well I have and it works just the same
Your just bitter cause I just tought you something lol
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Quit double posting or I'll reset your post count to zero for good.
I'm not bitter. I'm annoyed, because another n00b thinks he figured out something that the rest of us haven't already tested a thousand times in the last five years. More reading, less posting.
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Can I ask you what laser range finder you tested what model?
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Stealth Stalker
Okay, I'm wrong. I have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't own any lidar guns or laser jammers. And I've never tested any of this stuff. I'm just making it all up. My apologies. :rolleyes:
Luckily, most people here are smart enough to ignore you.
:lol: It's ok stealth we know nothing the newbs are always right. Pluse rate, lens diameter, beam strength and sampling algorithms mean nothing, heck my local PD should stop wasting my tax dollars and just by the golf laser range finders with speed displays.
Oh yeah apparently the search function is full of lies as well:rolleyes:
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levigne25
Can I ask you what laser range finder you tested what model?
I dunno the model. Some Bushnell thing that looked like binoculars. Didn't even set off the jammers. The guys in Houston tried a different one. I forgot who else tried it. Since it doesn't work, there didn't seem a lot of point in committing it to memory.
You have to understand that making your jammer jam and simply making it alert are two completely different things. One does not equal the other. Consequently, even if you can make it beep, that doesn't mean anything at all, except that it has power.
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levigne25
Can I ask you what laser range finder you tested what model?
Stealth Stalker knows his sh!t man. take his word as religion. he gave you a straight answer and you continued to ignore one of the most experienced members on this forum. have just a little respect please.
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yup no problem sorry guys
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Most laser range finders are a complete different wavelength than police lidar. Even if it was the same wavelength the pulse rate would probably not be the same. hence they do not set of laser jammers. They may set of radar detectors as the spectrum they look at is much wider.
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Oh is that right, well I just shot my laser interceptor that mounted on my truck and I get no reading with my range finder when I turn it off I get a reading
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levigne25
Oh is that right, well I just shot my laser interceptor that mounted on my truck and I get no reading with my range finder when I turn it off I get a reading
OK, looks like you're safe from all possible laser shots. Feel free to cruise at well over 100mph, just make sure none of us are on the road.
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here in edmonton alberta the richest province in canada the police here use nothing but the best ,they were shooting laser i walked up and snaped a picture with my iphone
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Man you guys are harsh. :p
Just for the record, I have an Osprey rangefinder with speed detection. I can use it just like a lidar gun, but it only shows speed or distance not both at the same time.
Osprey Laser Range Finder 7x 600 yard range w/ Speed Finder CAMO Comet EMC4 FREE S&H EMC4-CAMO. Osprey Range Finders.
It sets off my GX-65 and sets off my Blinder M-26. The Blinder then fires. If it actually jams my rangefinder , I have not tried yet.......but I will for the sake of this thread.
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When did Blinder make an M-26? Did I miss a model?
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levigne25
here in edmonton alberta the richest province in canada the police here use nothing but the best ,they were shooting laser i walked up and snaped a picture with my iphone
Have you noticed : this is a new Ul model , with an antenna ....:confused:
ha ....just a compression effect of the light pole :eek:
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oh heres another just because of a typo hes gonna try and make you look like you dont know what your talking about ,it burns there ass when someone knows something they dont
yeah light pole antenna i thought the same when i first looked at the picture lol
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levigne25
oh heres another just because of a typo hes gonna try and make you look like you dont know what your talking about ,it burns there ass when someone knows something they dont
Actually a lot of people on here know what they are talking about. I even know a little. :)
It just seems that Stealth Stalker is being a little aggressive and antagonistic with people lately. I have not been on in a few months and I dont remember him being like that before.:confused: Who knows people have bad days or weeks sometimes. Of course now I will be the bad guy and take the heat off of you. :p
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ya well obviously some dint know that a range finder could set off a jammer ,some people should just man up and be open to learn from anybody
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i think the point of all of the posts in this thread is that just because you can set off the jammers or detector by pointing a range finder at them doesn't mean that your system can jam any shot by an officer.
they will aim at different places on your car using guns with different power levels and pulse rates. an effective jammer system will jam them at every area, including headlights, center mass, foglights, etc, while the test with the range finder just proves that it can jam if you point it straight at the heads.
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Even being able to jam a rangefinder still doesn't prove anything beyond alert and fire for as to how well your system will work vs. real lidar. So it's still only equally as effective as a TV remote and cell phone camera.
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levigne25
Oh is that right, well I just shot my laser interceptor that mounted on my truck and I get no reading with my range finder when I turn it off I get a reading
OK, looks like you're safe from all possible laser shots. Feel free to cruise at well over 100mph, just make sure none of us are on the road.
He's got Li's when what he said don't make much Sense if they are level in a good area ....That's a risk I would sure take without testing them Li's on my car would probably give me JTG on all Guns.....as for the 100mph I almost got a laser save going that 95mph is my fastest save on zr3's :eek::eek: I only wish I had it on video to show all you escort haterz haha
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Idontgo55
He's got Li's when what he said don't make much Sense if they are level in a good area ....That's a risk I would sure take without testing them Li's on my car would probably give me JTG on all Guns.....as for the 100mph I almost got a laser save going that 95mph is my fastest save on zr3's :eek::eek: I only wish I had it on video to show all you escort haterz haha
You're all talk. If you were honestly confident in your ZR3s, you wouldn't be afraid of me shooting them on video with my TruSpeed.
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levigne25
i own a sniper rifle and i use a laser ranger finder (bushnell elite 1500 with arc) to measure the distance to my targets i can get targets up to 1500 yards ( deer ,moose,,) it even has a brush mode to make the laser a bit finer to penetrate brushy areas ,could i use this to test a laser shifter?
I had to go back and read the entire thread from the start.
I think the proper response to the OP is ......Depends what you are asking, it may set off the laser jammer, and it may or may not jam your rangfinder. This however does not mean that you jammer is working if it affects the RF, since it is not a police gun. So you really need to test real world with a police gun.
Instead people flew off the handle as if it were the 2452635819th time he has asked the same question.
Thats all Im saying......new people have to have the long explanation.....not just a reply like "NO"
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gpracer1
Thats all Im saying......new people have to have the long explanation.....not just a reply like "NO"
HowStuffWorks "How does a laser speed gun work to measure a car's speed?"
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Idontgo55
He's got Li's when what he said don't make much Sense if they are level in a good area ....That's a risk I would sure take without testing them Li's on my car would probably give me JTG on all Guns.....as for the 100mph I almost got a laser save going that 95mph is my fastest save on zr3's :eek::eek: I only wish I had it on video to show all you escort haterz haha
You're all talk. If you were honestly confident in your ZR3s, you wouldn't be afraid of me shooting them on video with my TruSpeed.
How many times do I have to say No video I wanna bet hard cash So i don't have to be around you ....since I don't like how you act On here or in person from the video of how you got a reading On that guy you was screaming like a lil kid Not.. a middle grown Man
Btw thanks for over using your power to warn me Since I'm sure it's coming I'll just call Radar Roy if you do
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Idontgo55
How many times do I have to say No video I wanna bet hard cash So i don't have to be around you ....since I don't like how you act On here or in person from the video of how you got a reading On that guy you was screaming like a lil kid Not.. a middle grown Man
You punked out, period. You talked all that trash and now you're scared. You made a bet and then punked out on it. Now you keep making excuse after excuse and want to change everything and add conditions. A real man stands behind his word. Let me know when you're ready to man up.
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I actually wanted to try this out after reading this because I forgot about having a laser rangefinder. So I tested it out to see if my Pro 68SE would pick it up which it did but of course you have to point it right at the detector haha. Just proves how much you need jammers.
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A ranger finder, depending on model, may set off jammers if the pulse rate is the same as one of police laser guns. Having said that, it doesn't mean your jammer is going to jam police laser if it jams a range finder because police lasers tend to fire with a lot more power and range. A range finder with the right PPS can test if your jammers are working... but it won't test if they are working well. The capabilities of a ranger finder are no match for the capabilities of a Stalker.
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The Chariot
A ranger finder, depending on model, may set off jammers if the pulse rate is the same as one of police laser guns. Having said that, it doesn't mean your jammer is going to jam police laser if it jams a range finder because police lasers tend to fire with a lot more power and range. A range finder with the right PPS can test if your jammers are working... but it won't test if they are working well. The capabilities of a ranger finder are no match for the capabilities of a Stalker.
x2. stalkerlz1 freak of nature :thumb2:
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They won't jam range finders anyway. Even the lidar units if put into range mode only will return a distance against a jammer. They only need 1 pulse to determine distance, they need 40 or more to determine speed.
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Regarding the Osprey: Back in the day (maybe 5 years ago), we did some testing of the Blinder with an Osprey rangefinder that had speed capability. It has a pulse rate of 195pps. The Blinder was able to jam it. If you search for Osprey, you'll find all of the old threads on it.
However, you really can't tell anything about a jammers effectiveness against police laser based on how it jams the Osprey. In general the jammers are tailored to handle each gun differently, although a jammer might do well against one particular gun that doesn't mean it will do well against other guns. You can't determine overall effectiveness based on testing against one laser gun, so you definitely can't determine overall effectiveness based on how it jams a rangefinder that isn't used by police anywhere.
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jimbonzzz
Regarding the Osprey: Back in the day (maybe 5 years ago), we did some testing of the Blinder with an Osprey rangefinder that had speed capability. It has a pulse rate of 195pps. The Blinder was able to jam it. If you search for Osprey, you'll find all of the old threads on it.
However, you really can't tell anything about a jammers effectiveness against police laser based on how it jams the Osprey. In general the jammers are tailored to handle each gun differently, although a jammer might do well against one particular gun that doesn't mean it will do well against other guns. You can't determine overall effectiveness based on testing against one laser gun, so you definitely can't determine overall effectiveness based on how it jams a rangefinder that isn't used by police anywhere.
Great response and thanks for the info.
So in a nutshell, certain Laser Range Finders in speed detection mode will alert a RD and will alert a jammer, and some jammers can jam some LRF with speed detection.
Thats why you never say "NO!" as a blanket statement. Nobody wins in this arguement, we all just learn a little........but SS was wrong.
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gpracer1
...but SS was wrong.
You want to explain how I was wrong? :hmmmm2:
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Stealth Stalker
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gpracer1
...but SS was wrong.
You want to explain how I was wrong? :hmmmm2:
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levigne25
i own a sniper rifle and i use a laser ranger finder (bushnell elite 1500 with arc) to measure the distance to my targets i can get targets up to 1500 yards ( deer ,moose,,) it even has a brush mode to make the laser a bit finer to penetrate brushy areas ,could i use this to test a laser shifter?
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Stealth Stalker
No. See the FAQ.
He didn't ask if he could use it to test the effectiveness against real police lidar, he just asked if he could use it to test his jammers, which technically as has already been pointed out, depending on what you want to test, you can. For example, the particular model the OP was using, would allow you to test weather or not the jammer is receiving and firing, doesn't mean you'll know how useful the jammer is, but it does def. let you know the jammer is in working order.