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Well LI breaks again? :(?
Well my LI has broken yet again. I think I am officially done with LI. This is my second batch that didn't last me more than a yr and a half. I think i'm going on a blinder front yet again. Not dissing LI's jamming capabilities we all know they are grand, although crawling underneath the car constantly isn't my idea of fun to redo things.
Alpine-:confused:
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Re: Well LI breaks again? :(?
Why don't you tell everyone the real story? When Blinder tells you to send it in for a free and immediate replacement, are you going to ignore them too? I don't know what more you expect. Nobody can help you if you won't help yourself.
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OP, talk to LI, they will sort it out.
Are you running LI 8?
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Whats the issues have you had? I hardly hear of anything going weird with these LI units!
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In what was is the LI isn't working?
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OP, plse provide forum more info on whats going on w/your LI. There might be the possibility of your problem that could help others who might have similar issues which in turn could lead us down to troubleshooting/fixes for everybody.
Just a thought. :)
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Originally Posted by
DrCoke
In what was is the LI isn't working?
You sir have boggled my brain.:)
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Originally Posted by
<<JAZZY>>
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Originally Posted by
DrCoke
In what was is the LI isn't working?
You sir have boggled my brain.:)
i lol'd
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Originally Posted by
aa2033
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Originally Posted by
<<JAZZY>>
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Originally Posted by
DrCoke
In what was is the LI isn't working?
You sir have boggled my brain.:)
i lol'd
Cut him a break, it was 5:10 AM.... :)
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Originally Posted by
DrCoke
In what was is the LI isn't working?
Excuse me, it was 1AM and I was on Ambien when I post. Tried to ask "in what way is the LI isn't working"
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OP: sounds like trolling. Enjoy your mediocre performance with Blinder.
DR.Coke: as a doc, you should know better than to try to type while Ambiened! That stuff is the devil's drug!
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Originally Posted by
Cauhauna
OP: sounds like trolling. Enjoy your mediocre performance with Blinder.
DR.Coke: as a doc, you should know better than to try to type while Ambiened! That stuff is the devil's drug!
A little off the thread topic, but relavent to Ambien... :)
Stan vs Ambien
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Off topic,
Its true that Ambien makes you do things that you completely don't remember. Not as strong as Ruffies but darn close.
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So what's wrong with your LI? :rolleyes:
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DrCoke
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Originally Posted by
DrCoke
In what was is the LI isn't working?
Excuse me, it was 1AM and I was on Ambien when I post. Tried to ask "in what way is the LI isn't working"
LOL! I thought you were asking "In what UNIVERSE is the LI not working?" In the real world, it works fine.
User error is what it is. That was established two years ago. This is a non-story.
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Something smells bad here...
Maybe the LI is ok but its profits with somebody else were born this topic ... :rolleyes:
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stealth stalkers an mentally ill person who suffers from anxiety neurosis
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stealths has a very byist opinion probley bought off by Li
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Originally Posted by
kawasaki2008
stealths has a very byist opinion probley bought off by Li
Coming from a person with a low post count who has probably never met SS in real life....
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Originally Posted by
kawasaki2008
stealth stalkers an mentally ill person who suffers from anxiety neurosis
bye bye
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Issues with the LI i'm having, "again :(?" False alerting "reigl constantly, a gun not even in the USA. Also now it's also falsing TraffiPatrol XR." This is time number two. Honestly would it be nice to get them fixed yes, but crawling under the car for a thrid time to go through all that when i'm living in a state that doesn't even use laser. Not worth my time. Although. To reply to someone in this thread. 1. I never sent a blinder back to blinder when they broke they got tossed. I gave LI a chance my friend. These have already been to LI USA before. I have video proof. Lastly. I truely think thing's where taken way to far when I merely posted that I had an issue. I am not bashing LI as a product. I'm just saying that I personally don't care for them anymore. They are not durable enough for my uses. Is blinder a godsend either? No. They break too. Nothing is perfect. All I am saying is. I purchased a set of blinder's used right at the same time I purchased these LI's and yet the Blinder is still kicking and i'm using it today infact on my way into work. Yet the LI is already broken, yet again and it was purchased brand new from a legit dealer. I don't know something doesn't sit well with me, as this has happened now two times. With the same error. It lead's me to beleive the error has not been fixed. So since i've had "better luck" with blinder durability wise. I'm probably going to just use their jammer's. May i get a tad of PT yes. Although oh well. I'd rather have them work then fail me on a 1,000 mile trip in mid trip. Did my LI's jam hard YOU BET! They jammed many of an officer before taking a dump on me. Although, I simply cannot afford to dish out 600 dollars every year. I'm sorry I unfortunatly beyond popular belief unlike many i guess am not made of dinaro aka money.
Oh By the way since i'm such a liar. Here is the Film from 1 1/2 years ago. From when it happened the first time. Grab your popcorn people. Enjoy the truth. Although be prepared, this film is very shaky as it was shot on a kodak still camera not a camcorder. I appologize for the shake before hand although hey it is what it is, and it show's the error in more clarity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vgvyBAAPI4
Alpine- :(
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boy did you sound angry lol
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Originally Posted by
alpinestars_2002795
I'm sorry I unfortunatly beyond popular belief unlike many i guess am not made of dinaro aka money.
What?
So you got a defective unit. It was bound to happen at some point. I'm sure LI will take care of it, they have excellent customer service.
It seems that you decided to post this thread for the sole purpose to bash LI - despite your statement about your intentions.
Its unfortunate that you have problems but since you feel its not warranted to go through the proper chain to get them fixed, and decided to post here rather, you are doing nothing but smearing a good company.
Take your blinders and leave this place.
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there is no reason for anyone to bash you for sharing your experiences, good or bad. Thanks for the info
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I didn't even know of such a laser gun as "Riegl" til I looked them up. Where is this gun even used?
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just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I was there when Alpine had his first bout of trouble and he showed it to me alerting to Reigl. So this is a real problem. Why is it happening, well it could be a few things. There could be moisture in the heads which caused corrosion to form on the circuit board. It could be a bad part be it in the heads or cpu, it could be a software glitch, it could also be a soldering issue in any of the components that is causing havoc. So until the system is taken apart and inspected you will never know. But what we do know is that it is not functioning right. If I was LI USA, I would replace the whole system with a new one, that way you have the whole system to inspect to get to the root cause of the problem and fix it in production and if it happens to someone else you will know what is causing it.
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Sorry to hear of your problem.Hope you can get it sorted.I guess there are problems with everything.
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I just wanted to say thankyou to happya$$ and to Languy, and all the other's for the support. This post was just as happya$$ stated. It was only intended to bring information to the board. Not to discredit any buisness, or testing. I am glad that the information has been shared. Hopefully other's will know more of what's going on if their unit's should have this issue. This is the only reason it was brought here. For the informational purpose :). As Roy himself said this board is to inform us motorist's :). Which i'm proud, and glad to say it has for many year's. I hope that it continues to bring that esteamed level of electronics education to user's for year's to come, and thankyou very much Happya$$ and Languy and to all those on the board for sharing your idea's. As of now i'm considering looking into the possiblity of maybe trying a capacitor in series in the power lead? Perhaps it's what people used to have issues with on here? A noisy electrical system? Idk what but obviously something is up? Although I would think if it where that, that I'd have the same issues on my blinder system on the same battery system? So perhaps Languy has some good directions to go in. Perhaps it's just a faulty head, or control box. That's what we did 1 1/2 yr's back is replaced the entire system control box and head's. Although, man I would like to see this issue not happen to another forum member. I want you guy's to have the best because we all deserve it. We forum member's take huge pride in our gadget's unlike other's out there on the street's. Especially us LI user's. :). So god bless, and thankyou to all. Please keep idea's rolling. Man i miss TSi WRX he was very good when it came to this technical stuff, the nitty gritty. Hmm wish he was here.?
Alpine-
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Originally Posted by
alpinestars_2002795
Man i miss TSi WRX he was very good when it came to this technical stuff, the nitty gritty. Hmm wish he was here.?
x2 on that!
I get Traffipatrol XR alerts from Infinitys all the time. That's how you know it's an Infinity, lol. Can't imagine what would be falsing Riegl though. I don't recall any reports of that before.
Not calling you a liar. If you say you're having the problem, I believe it. Just saying that, in the past, you haven't made it easy for them to fix the problem for you.
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I've gotten some falses on bare empty roads, the only thing in sight was the reflection of my HID's. Don't suppose you're running HID's in your scooby?
Errr just watched the video, nevermind.
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I understand Alpine's frustration .
I my-self refrain to post of bad experiences with the Li ,
so to not shade the product ...
First , Cliff always treated me like a friend .
Nevertheless , last year I purchased my second dual unit
for the rear . As soon I received the new baby , I tested it
out-of-the-box . Everything is fine . The next day I perform
the install ...all ok . 2 days later I experience the ''patrol XR''
alert out-of-nowhere . Call Cliff , he tells me to check which head is doing the alert , easy find ...as soon as the sun hit
the sensor , here goes the alert ....a brand new unit , checked by Cliff personnally before shipping ....ah
electronic is like human ...fine in the morning , sick
at night .
To make it short : send back the sensor , Cliff sends me another sensor right away ...yes it is frustating....but
would be 1000 times more frustrating without the top service
from Cliff ...always a phone call/email away .
I touch wood , my 2 duals behave perfectly since.
Though I would suggest to the manufacturer to bench test
each system for achieving zero-defect @ 99.999% ....
perfect as human we are !
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I also was there to witness Alpine's LI act up to the Reigel alerts before so this is NOT some kind of joke! Hard nosed facts are difficult for some to take. Alpine did attempt to make a phone call about getting his LI fixed (I also was there to hear the phone call) and he was made out to be the bad guy so how is this Alpine's fault? I DON'T see the corrolation. Start being nice on this board and offering kindness to others. Thank you HappyA$$ and Languy for backing him up on "factual" information!
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Hey, just going by what he himself posted about his previous problem. And at that time, he told us how Cliff sent him a post-paid mailer, but Alpine couldn't be arsed to take the time to mail it. Finding a UPS Store was too much of an inconvenience for him. If that information wasn't "factual", then why did Alpine post it?
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I don't think anyone here is even debating whether the information is factual or not. Clearly he needs to send his unit back to LI to have it looked at. The simple question is:
What is stopping him?
Cliff has been nothing but great to me in regards to customer service. A few bad units are bound to be produced. It may be a pain, but what other options are available when this happens? Send it back, get it fixed, be on your way...
Maybe if you post some emails showing LI support saying they won't honor a warranty, that would be somewhat different. But the fact of the matter is your unit isn't working properly, there isn't much this forum can do to help fix it - you need to send it back, and you are still posting here, while your unit still sits in your possession.
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Originally Posted by
xyd
I don't think anyone here is even debating whether the information is factual or not. Clearly he needs to send his unit back to LI to have it looked at. The simple question is:
What is stopping him?
Cliff has been nothing but great to me in regards to customer service. A few bad units are bound to be produced. It may be a pain, but what other options are available when this happens? Send it back, get it fixed, be on your way...
X2 ...words of the wise.
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OP:
We need some photos of the install, CPU version, is the wiring done well?
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Originally Posted by
xyd
I don't think anyone here is even debating whether the information is factual or not. Clearly he needs to send his unit back to LI to have it looked at. The simple question is:
What is stopping him?
Apparently, the same thing as last time:
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Originally Posted by
alpinestars_2002795
Honestly would it be nice to get them fixed yes, but crawling under the car for a thrid time to go through all that when i'm living in a state that doesn't even use laser. Not worth my time.
There it is. He spent a lot more of his precious time making that video and these posts than it would have taken to simply mail in the unit. He doesn't want it fixed. He just wants to whine.
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Didn't read every page, but did the OP check to see if the false alerts corresponded to the use of an electrical device in the car?
The ZR4 in my wife's car falses almost every time the driver side mirror is adjusted. (electronically actuated) It's electrical "noise" in our case.
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My solution: Buy everything with American Express. Then you have at least 1 year of additional warranty.