The only change is a fix for the "flash full" lock up that a few have experienced.
So many discussions for only 1 minor change...
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The only change is a fix for the "flash full" lock up that a few have experienced.
So many discussions for only 1 minor change...
Thanks Beltronics, but not ground-breaking. You my friends are ignoring the user again. How about adding the autolock feature that exists in the 9500ix with the ability to shut that function off, the ability to set our own distances for alerts for speed cameras, traps, redlights, etc., not just the ability to mark the location. How about that. Those added features would be most welcome. I like the look and the red display of the GX65 and that's why I bought it. There should be some sort of upgrade path to the autolock feature for Beltronics users that will not make us feel second class.
They did not fix the distance for the marked location settings? Its waaaay too short and I see the LEO or Get I/Oed before the speedtrap alert goes off. No wonder I leave it in the trunk....not sure why anyone would get this over the 9500i.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuckee
All of us that bought a GX65 we were foolish and believed the unbelievable. Not only were over-hyped features broken or useless, but the basic detector was substandard prior to the first USB update.
As has been mentioned, Belscort is very slow to release updates, if at all. Many issues go un-resolved: 9500ci ramp-up would be an example. The fact that updates for the GX65 and 9500i were even released is an admission of the early release of an unrefined product.
Belscort really does have a brilliant marketing strategy to be honest...
Sell broken products, and fix them with new products.
In other words, give them just enough of something to make the product worth-while, yet ALWAYS hold something back or make it broken. Thus, they can put out a new product that fixes this issue, yet purposely put into that detector a flaw that holds it back from being superior in every way to the previous unit. In other words, keep using new units to fix old units, and in the new units that "fix" the old ones, introduce a new flaw that users want to overcome by buying the "new" product to fix that.
Honestly: Why does Belscort care if you already bought their product whether or not it is not a 'finished' product? (They don't). Unless you can sue them to prove the flaws, they already have your money... they need nothing more from you. It is actually BETTER for them if you get a semi-broken product... because you have no other choice to come back to them in their monopoly-segments of the market if you want a new product.
They are a very, very dirty company in this respect... Marx had their strategy called out many years ago.
Don't get me started on their ports...
Going a bit off the deep end here aren't we?
AutoLearn was never listed as a feature on the GX65, and we never promised AutoLearn for the GX65. If you want the AutoLearn feature then get the 9500ix. The 9500ix has AutoLearn and was released before the GX65.
If you want Defender database alerts but don't want AutoLearn (some people prefer manually marking falses) then save a few bucks and get the GX65 instead of the 9500ix. The GX65 also has a red display which some prefer over the blue 9500ix display, myself included. We are giving the customer a choice of options through several models at different price points, 9500i red and blue, GX65, 9500ix, and now the iQ. Plus you can upgrade your 9500i to a 9500ix. I do not see how all of these choices are bad for the consumer.
Yeah, we are the only manufacturer that releases new products with more features than our older products... :rolleyes:
As for our updates fixing problems found; at least you no longer have to send it back to the mfr for this to be done. Simply plug it into your PC and in a couple minutes it's done. Name another detector mfr that offers user downloadable firmware updates. If we were such a "dirty company" then why would we even admit to the flaw and provide a fix for it in the first place? Most people will probably never encounter this particular issue.
The defense rests! Have a happy Thanksgiving :)
It appears that Belscort doen't take constructive criticism well. By your post it appears that the prevailing attitude is if you as a consumer don't praise our product and innovation outright then you don't know what you are talking about. I am not a CES evaluator. I am a consumer that uses the product daily. CES evaluators aren't the ones buying your product for daily use. I for one don't believe Belscort is a dirty company else I would not have bought several of your products. I also understand innovation and incorporating new features into new detectors. My chief complaint is firstly, as you indicate the need for additional choices. The choice you speak so ravingly about seems to be tied more to those who purchase an Escort product and not a Bel product. As indicated, I like the look of the GX65 hardware (case and design) over the look of the 9500ix, red display-blue display aside. I also don't want to have to purchase a product, then have it upgraded to include a feature set (red display) that should originally have been a choice. That is to fussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by EscortRadar
There may be many ways to obtain the 9500 line feature set by purchsing a variety of Escort products such as the 9500ci, 9500i and 9500ix line but only one GX65, finito. No GX65 product with autolearn that would give the user a choice to purchase that product or choose the GX65 product without the autolearn. Red display vs. blue display is not the only issue.
Kindly take the time to read well users posts and understand your consumer wishes rather than to rush to judgment and then gloat about Belscorts' accomplishments. You have done this too frequently. Consumers don't care about your accomplishments, just currently what will make their detector product better suited for their needs and uses. Further, consumers should have a right to express their desires and wishes and a good company should listen to its consumer. Whether you marketed a feature as part of a product (autolearn) is not the final end of the issue. The consumer should have the right to express to the company a desired feature set. If Belscort doesn't want to implement that feature set for internal company policy reasons, simply inform the consumer of such rather than pander to the consumer as if the consumer cannot read. Yes, I was fully aware of the feature set of the product that I was purchasing prior to purchasing the unit. Yes, I was aware of the fact that the GX65 didn't have the autolearn feature when I purchased it. However, if after the purchase and use of the product, I as a consumer desires a certain feature set that I believe Belscort can implement by a software patch, Is Belscort saying to me, the consumer, keep your desires to yourself? We as a company dear sir or madam are not concerned.
The problem with Belscort as seen by the consumer is that Belscort does not offer any feedback when wishes and desires are expressed. Just look at the negative posts on this forum relating to such. For instance, I am fully aware of upgrade paths from the GX65 to the 9500ix and all of the other upgrade choices. That is why I usually preface my comments with what I am currently aware of. No need to remind me of what I already know. Better time would be spent on this forum informing the consumer that Belscort has acknowledged their comments and wish list and will look into adding the feature to the product if possible, is currently working towards resolving the issue, or that the requested feature can't be added to the detector currently or at any time in the future. That sort of attitude would be more appreciated by the consumer, than a look at what we did for the industry as a whole attitude. Unless like some have posted on the forum that Belscort does not care about the consumer. I for one do not believe that is the case.
In more than enough posts that I read on this forum, a chief complaint of the 9500 line as well as the GX65 is the short distance that that the consumer gets notified of a speedtrap, redlight camera, etc. I would think that the fix would be a simple software update. If that is not so, then at least let me know the issue isn't that simple, instead of allowing me to speculate as to whether or not you are receptive to that concern.
Speaking of choice, let me have the ability to personally set my own alert distance for speedtraps and redlight cameras. I then would be in a position to set a distance that I feel is safe for me to get an alert warning. Don't arbitrarily force me to accept your own settings. That is consumer choice. Your current settings are too short. If your marked distances were sufficient, no consumer would be complaining. Fix that one issue and you would satisfy many consumers at the same time.
I agree Belscort is very innovative when it comes to creating products. The consumer simply wishes that Belscort invests time in fixing the identified issues in the current product along with creating new products. If Belscort continues to choose not to do that or communicate their efforts to the consumer, that's when the consumer begins to feel left out and dear sir or madam, that is no choice.
The defense may want to consider supplementing the record with additional evidence to survive a motion for summary judgment. And to you and yours also, have a Happy Thanksgiving.
To Chuckee: You were out of the ordinary!!!
To EscortRadar: I was fully aware ,too,of the feature set of the product that I was purchasing prior to purchasing the unit.I was aware too of the fact that the GX65 didn't have the autolearn feature when I purchased it. However, if after the purchase and use of the product, I as a consumer desires a certain feature set that I believe Belscort can implement by a software patch.
As a customer i desire to:
1. Increase QT response using band segmentation and RDR.
2. Improve ramp up so distance to the LEO is easer to pinpoint.
3.Buy a European-specific software that will load into GX65, we have money but we can't spend it . Why ???????
4.Fix the distance for the marked location. Speed camera radius is too small.
Yeah, I had an absolutely massive post that completely would have obliterated the quip about "the defense"... stuff going back all the way to X50's, beta-testing users w/33.8Ghz on the Sti... etc. All that was dedacted (so to speak)... simply because it is Thanksgiving and there is no need to argue:
At any rate there is no need for all that because the following shows Escorts care for their customers after purchase:
Ramp-up.
That shows how truly committed they are to "fixing" the product for us.
/Discussion.
BTW: Whistler is releasing their newest unit as likely a computer-compatible for updates, so you asked me to name one and... ugh... I did. Furthermore, jammer companies have been doing this for awhile: Except they actually *cough, cough* release patches to fix or change things consumers want.
hmmm interesting. I'm starting to think what happen to the good old RD detector.
Also kudos to Whistler for fixing the 3600 BEFORE the release, giving it more sensitivity on K band.Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
I too wish I could get more warning distance to marked locations too!
Not enough warning time!!! If all it is is a timing issue given a speed (which it seems to be) then Escort PLEASE INCREASE THE TIMING on my SC55!!!!
This is also my biggest problem. Please fix this - or put it back to what it was when I bought it.I think the first or secound update made it way too short.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman76
I'm still waiting for a new top-notch firmware update.
As a customer i desire to:
1. Increase QT response using band segmentation and RDR on/off.
2. Improve ramp up so distance to the LEO is easer to pinpoint.
3.Buy a European-specific software that will load into GX65, we have money but we can't spend it . Why ???????
4.Fix the distance for the marked location. Speed camera radius is too small.
I got two software updates but I am not sure what they do.
Should I just buy a 9500i and pay the 130 bucks to upgrade it to a ix? I want a red display I hate blue.:p
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Originally Posted by SmoothFox
Thats what I would do (I already it). The blue just does not fit in my Audi
The 9500ix seems like a more refined detector than the Gx-65. The performance and features will be similar, but the voices and marked location distance warning plus the auto lockout feature make the 9500ix a better choice. My problem is the wife hates the GX and if I need a marked location detector, I end up with the GX ifshe is using the 9500,and the GX is pretty much useless for market locations. I have been hit by laser and radar before the marked location alerts.