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I have been hit, i think, with Laser 2 times recently. 1st time I was just to the left and back of a motorcycle that it seemed the LEO was shooting laser at from the right side of the road. 2nd time I was the first car in a group and he looked to be shooting my car after we came around a bend.
Both times the Redline was silent. Now to let you know, the Redline is mounted high next to the RVM and I have a black car. Do you think this is why it did not alert?
Thanks!
Laser is a very slim beam and LEO's target license plates, headlights, etc. and since your redline is mounted high, it is very unlikely the redline will alert to laser unless it picks up a laser scatter from another car being targeted. I would definitely look into getting a laser jammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZRIDN
Like tpalmer87 says Laser is hard to detect (unlike Radar) also maybe the LEO was not targeting you, and maybe the car next to you?
it's hard to tell with cars all around you. I see LEO's all day shooting Lidar I also never get alarms, unless the Lidar beam is right on my windshield.
Getting Laser Alarms on a daily basis is rare (unlike the 34.700 KA band ) alarms I get 4-5 times a day.
Good luck & drive safe
Happened to me also. If you watch my video, its not the greatest but you can hear the LI's go off and the RL is silent.
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Originally Posted by tpalmer87Laser is a very slim beam and LEO's target license plates, headlights, etc. and since your redline is mounted high, it is very unlikely the redline will alert to laser unless it picks up a laser scatter from another car being targeted. I would definitely look into getting a laser jammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZRIDN
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Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by tpalmer87
When I had my LI's installed, the tester was so accurate, the RL never went off! Only sloppy LIDAR shots will result in a laser alert if the detector is mounted up high.
Michael
When the LEO hit my car that night, my Redline was down low and not mounted high. He hit me with a PL3, LI's Jammed, but no noise from the Redline
Buy jammer's my guess is he clocked you and wasn't over his limit
My Redline is so good at detecting laser that it goes ahead and alerts to it even though I have the laser detection option turned off...
In this video the V1 was mounted low and the Redline high. You notice the V1 was alerting to all kinds of laser scatter but the Redline was silent until the kill shot. All Escort's have mediocre laser detection, my Blinder's with the new software even catch some laser scatter in this video. Also I don't really totally buy the "mount higher for better chance to detect laser scatter" theory. All my laser scatter alerts I have ever gotten the V1 was mounted lower on the dash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEYQj...el_video_title
My redline has some pretty good laser detection. Both in real world situations and with my tester. I shot my lower blinder head, real close remote was pointed to the ground and it was about 3 feet below my RL and my rl still alerted while my upper blinder heads didnt even go off. I dont know if my RL is extra laser sensitive or what. Not that it matters since laser detection is pointless, laser jammers or ticket you cant rely on a detector against laser.
Talking about laser detection is pointless !!! I have shot cars with a v1' without it going off
if you can't afford the lowest end of laser jammer then you need a ticket
But it seems the op don't speed too bad which is why he got clocked twice by laser without a ticket
My redline seems to pick up laser just fine, my RX65 has yet to pick up ANY laser shot, even when it should have...
Not that detecting laser is something you should consider anyway in buying your detector, but with my Redline mounted high, it seems to do just fine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmaQTTVR8oA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V-aUm1uqvY
Escort claims that there are 5 optical laser sensors in the Redline. I've never tested mine with a gun, but I saw a cop shooting me with laser on two occasions, and it went off both times.
Both times, I got tagged twice; why, I don't know. I would have expected that it would take just once for a reading. Since I was the only car around and saw the setup, I can't really say that the Redline saved me a ticket, since I slowed down when I saw cops on an overpass and out of their cars on the second occasion.
I found the Redline to be one of the worst laser detectors I have ever owned (and the 9500ix the best although they may very well have the same sensor type but with different tuning). I would not let that in itself be a factor in keeping it or returning it even though the V1 is without a doubt the best in the laser category. I get scatter saves with it mounted high even though mounting high theoretically reduces the probability of laser detection. Even then, don't think the V1 is going to save you every time as all this will do is get you a ticket. As said, the beam is a small fixed width and you can be clocked at a substantial distance without any detector making a peep. The Redline still does radar very well, which should be the main reason one buys a detector. The only way to defeat laser is to know its limitations, get a (good) jammer, install the jammer correctly, test the jammer, and use the jammer correctly when driving. Also, given radar is detected best when mounting high, mounting low for laser protection may do nothing to prevent you from a laser ticket but make you more susceptible to radar tickets. Many factors affect laser detection ranging from the shape of your car to the color of your car, to the time/brightness of day, to the barometric pressure. Bottom line? Don't assume full protection for laser from any detector.
Allot depends on the vehicle when mounting high. My V1 is mounted RVM but is only pants pocket or hip height. The V1 picks up laser scatter from both front and rear.
It's the only one I've ever had that reliably picks up front laser...let along rear. I guess it is a trade off for the additional falses that some users report. I pull about 1 laser false every 120 miles, +/-. However, in those 120 miles I usually get 4 legit laser signals or more so at least for me the false tradeoff is worth it. The only other RD I have that consistently laser falsed that we can discuss is the 8500 Classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by NormSky
I'm repeating myself here, but, in my opinion, if my car is the target of LIDAR, there is a 90 percent chance the Redline, mounted at the top of my windshield, will alert. I found some local cops testing LIDAR gear a year or so ago, and I made numerous trips around the block, and the Redline alerted each time. Of all the times I saw a cop using LIDAR, and I was the target, it alerted. On one occasion, a guy just in front of me was the target of a CHP trooper on overpass, and I saw him shooting LIDAR out the passenger window - the guy ahead got a ticket. Redline was silent, but then, I was not the target. Either way, alert or not, if you're in the ticket zone, and you get shot with LIDAR, you're toast. The only thing the laser alert does for me now is scare the crap out of me, even if I am going PSL.
I remember it being reported here somewhere that the later model Redlines are more laser sensitive.
Reported by whom? Someone who knows nothing about the Redline Laser detection circuitry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrots
Redline has the exact same laser detection circuitry as the shifter does with the exception that the STi/Redline has 4 IR photodiodes forward facing vs the shifter which has 3.
The IR detection sensitivity of the STi/Redline design is unchanged from the first days of STi production, back in 2005.
It could be a tuning/calibration/firmware thing. With my bad experiences with the Redline's laser and other's reporting it is amazing I imagine there are firmware differences. The V1.8 may use same internals but look how big a diff its firmware updates make. I am sure Escort does the same if they think a firmware update can bring better performance...especially given laser is a revolving process with newer guns with newer pulse rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by insidercw3Reported by whom? Someone who knows nothing about the Redline Laser detection circuitry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrots
Redline has the exact same laser detection circuitry as the shifter does with the exception that the STi/Redline has 4 IR photodiodes forward facing vs the shifter which has 3.
The IR detection sensitivity of the STi/Redline design is unchanged from the first days of STi production, back in 2005.
I have a Redline, BUT if I was really worried about laser, I'd run a V1, hands down. even so, the chance of a save is highly overrated.
Then you could enjoy rear laser scatter too!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigalinwv
Both of the saves were from my eyes and not the Redline. If I want serious protection then it seems even an entry level laser jammer would be the ticket, no pun intended.
I am disappointed in the Redline silent during the 2 hits though. Maybe it was my black paint, wasn't shooting me, whatever.
You won't truly know until you go through a jamfest or have someone test it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZRIDN
Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reflections
x2 The same happened to me. I finally gave up and turned back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodscolby
I wouldn't be disappointed. Depending on an RD to protect you from laser is really a false sense of security anyway, it doesn't work. Get a good laser jammer setup and forget about it. Let the RD do what it does best, radar.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZRIDN
Only during the first few seconds after power on will the RedLine alert to laser with laser detection disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodscolby
Had been on for approximately an hour... It does this at every single jammer testing meet and I have had it happen in several laser encounters on the road:Quote:
Originally Posted by EscortRadarOnly during the first few seconds after power on will the RedLine alert to laser with laser detection disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodscolby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVV6fg_E1GI
I'm with Woodscolby on this. I have always had laser off on my Redline until I realized that it will alert with my Blinders then laser is on. When it is off, there is a very obvious lag. I have several examples where there is no mistaking it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bgbKJexzD4&t=1m56s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwJp7HGfoEs&t=24s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlawbymEbmY
For comparison, here is a recent encounter with laser turned on on the Redline.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G21TWjWz-sw&t=25s
My Redline doesn't behave this way. When I program LASER OFF on my Redline the laser detection is disabled and it stays disabled.
So what are you guys doing that is different?
Good Question! Here's my configurationQuote:
Originally Posted by insidercw3
Expert Mode (I'm not one, but I like to feel like it, lol)
Automute = off
SWS = off
TSR = on (It was however off in some of my videos with the lag too)
X Band = off
K Band = on
Ka Band = on
Laser = off (during the first videos, on now with no lag)
Also, I am always in highway mode.
I tested my Redline with those exact settings and with the Laser programmed OFF, it is off after about 5-10 seconds after power up. Perhaps you should revisit this issue and check again.
Thanks for taking the time to test this. Your result tells me there is something wrong with my Redline. Not that it matters much, since the I'm still very happy with the radar detection. Should that change, I'll send it in to Belscort for repair.Quote:
Originally Posted by insidercw3