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With all the new sensors in new cars, the V1 constantly beeps.
Paired with the K radars on all school busses in our metro, it is unreal.
X is off
K is virtually pointless
Ka and Laser are the only 2 things worth alerting to
How are the new escorts? Do they false alarm as bad?
from my understanding, the new V1's help with this problem with the filtering you can activate. The old Belscorts will have the same problem.
I do believe that any new detector will have additional filtering to help out with the crap on new cars.
I'm looking at a new V1 myself for the same reason...or at least upgrading what I got to the latest.
I got my V1 around 3 months ago.
Plenty of programming features just visit the site. It looks like you got second hand one 3.851. The newer .89's have an android app which has gps features and even the iOS is really good. I guess you know this anyway. Guess your having a Winge or just a bit of harmless trolling.
I agree mine was driving me up the dam wall!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by f_399
Picked up a escort MAX 2 weeks ago needless to say I literally just shipped it back today... range was bad, sensitivity, no arrows made it no match compared to the V1 in my eyes which sucks because I was really hoping I was going to like the max. it alerted a solid 10-15 seconds later than my V1 to KA band. not to mention it sucked off axis but ohh well now im looking into updating my V1 and using the GPS filter with my phone using the app.
think ghz is onto something. Your .851 is probably a 8 year old hardware/firmware. I have an .864 that I bought new from VR in 2008 and my .813 that I bought new in 2004. So that gives you an idea. The new .893/.894 is latest and greatest and offers a wealth of new features, filters and segmentation possibilities. Hence why i am thinking of updating. You can lock out k band that does not fall within the FCC allocated police radar band and segment Ka to better suit what the US really uses.
I just got back from a round trip from TX to MI and back. My .813 falsed like crazy with the new crap in these new fangled fancy cars and I don't know what the 18wheelers are running that causes the V1 to go crazy. I have been on a long hiatus from this forum and am trying to catch up on this new stuff and determine whether I'm going to update or not. I have always ran V1 and I can't live without the arrows due to the techie nerd in me, along with my insatiable need for FULL situation awareness. So I am pretty set on the fact that I'm just going to update what I got or get a new one and sell what I got, and run with the latest and greatest.
If you truly picked up your .851 directly from V1 as recently as 3 months ago, I would be PISSED! If you picked it up used, well...not sure what to tell you there. You've been around the forum as long as I have and so I'm sorry, but not sure there's any excuse. Lots of good info here. I'll admit, it's not as active here as it used to be and sometimes it's hard to get the answers you need, but there's lots of goodies around :)
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out. Read some of VeilGuy's reviews and blogs. It will give you a good idea as to what the NEW V1's are really capable of in light of the new fangled crap they're putting on these fancy schmancy cars these days. If I were you, before I completely dismissed V1, I'd look at updating or getting a new one. I think you would be pleasantly surprised. If not, well, I'll buy it from you for half price ;)
i bought it brand new
had the bluetooth when i first bought it then i had it hardwired and didnt make use of the bluetooth
bluetooth was great for changing settings, that was about it.
i can still do it if i use the cig lighter plug
any recommended settings? i turned off X and make k stay mute for a little longer
I have had a long history of radar detectors, old v1's, 8500, x50, redline, max... took a break and didnt have a detector for a year or so then just recently purchased a v1 again
but back then not a lot of cars had all these fancy sensors
do you recieve constant false alerts on Laser? i get it all the time in traffic, i dunno why my 3.894 gives me false alerts all the time? regarding false alerts, does V1 sound the alarm from radar/laser operated cruise controls or from led lights? i get my false alerts from cars coming towards me and if i tail them from behind. many times i thought there was something wrong with my V1, version 3.894? however it works great on everything else!! i run my V1 in euro mode U as i'm in europe. Should i enable traffic monitor filter to reduce false laser alerts?Quote:
Originally Posted by f_399
laser cruise controls and some lights will false laser. Here in the US, there are some vehicles that have the high mount stop lamp that will set off laser (Chevrolet Trailblazer). Neon lights and some LED will false it too...even the sun sometimes. It's common. My kiddos will unknowingly give me rear laser falses with the DVD remote in the truck. There's not really a lot you can do with the laser falses, unfortunately.
I was getting crazy laser falses today from a new sports car driving right behind me. Hate them laser cruise controls.
F_399, not sure of any recommended settings...I don't have a new one to play with. I don't have a lot of falses down here in the piney woods on my 3.813, but I got a lot of them on my trip recently.
When I drive in Houston, k band falses a lot, but there's really no settings on this old FW that I can set. I have a 15 second, 4 light delay on k band, but that's about it.
If you have the new one with ESP and bluetooth (your signature did not indicate you had a new FW, hence why we were giving you a hard time about the .851), you might could monitor with your smartphone and see where your k falses are falling within the band. If they are "out of the box," you can mute the alert automatically. I haven't played with the new V1C because like I said, I don't have one, but from the looks of it, you should be able to do that. Maybe you can narrow down a particular frequency and lock it out. Not sure... Someone with more V1C experience will have to pop in.
If I get this V1C ordered and play with the settings, I'll post back. I've been going to order a new one, but am waiting on a couple other things first ;)
Do yourself a favour and use the Bluetooth in euro mode not USA mode. Find out what the cop use in your area and you will be amazed .Quote:
Originally Posted by f_399
ghz, why euro mode for us stateside peeps? No ku here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
If you have a Bluetooth compatible V1 using euro mode you can ban segregate your Ka to what ever your local cops use. This will turbo charge your V1. You don't have to turn Ku on. You can also narrowed down your K ban sweeps so that you can mute out a large amount of your K false alerts. This is a very well documented feature so google the sucker and all will be revealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvetusghz, why euro mode for us stateside peeps? No ku here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
sorry .813 is no longer the Jew in the crown "we has a turbo charged V1 with blow off values"
Also turn on Traffic Monitor Filter which also shuts off k-pop, this will help quiet down blind spot k band systems also.
Unfortunately euro mode turns on pop full time. However you have the Frequency of the offending K false (on you cell phone screen). If it is a blind spot offender you can make sure it's out side your unmute box. Probably around 24.070 GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freebird
Yes Euro turns on k and ka pop but I thought you could kill the k pop by turning on the Traffic Monitor Filter thus making it Euro ka pop only. Maybe I am thinking of yav1 and this only works on the YaV1 app?
I run iOS. As far as I known pop Ka is full time. Yav1 is a another story. I'm unsure about it. It sounds really good thou. I don't run tmf as it kills the k band sensitivity a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freebird
Good answers, thanks ghz. I am going to be upgrading the .813 VERY soon! Or what I may just do is just buy the latest and greatest and then when I get that, turn around send in the .813 for a tune and sell it. That way I'm not left without ;) But I am trying to figure out and learn all I can about the latest features in the meanwhile.
I am holding off just a bit for the sale of my 2nd house to go through, or at least until my buyer schedules his closing. Then will be down to one house and will be a bit more willing to let the cash flow move a bit ... if you get my drift ;) Trying to get an idea as to what my closing expenses might be with property tax pro-rate, etc. Then it's new V1 time.
Thanks for the answers...that makes sense. I will play with euro settings in the demo-mode as I have already got the app to start playing around with it.
You should get some good money for your .813 desirable V1's are .813,.826,.872. I wouldn't seen it in for a tune up if it seems to be working fine. Let the buyer do that. I'm sure people in the Community in some of the othe forums will scoop it up. All the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvetus
V1 has always done right by me. I'm the original owner of the .813 and that's not my only V1 either. I have sent the V1 in a few times throughout the years and tune ups have always been done free. I even had a board go bad (unbeknownst to me) and they took care of it. V1 is a stand up company in my book, so I have a good mind to believe that if I purchase another brand new unit complete with V1C that they will tune up my .813 for me. That way it's taken care of and the buyer doesn't need to worry about it. If it departs the US, that will give the buyer that much more peace of mind and something they won't have to take care of. If it doesn't cost me anything, I won't be out anything anyway :)
I do have a question on the sweeps...
So I'm playing around in the demo mode and I am reading something about "Sweep 0," which appears to be a 33.8 sweep that the V1 does by default? Is that correct? Do I set that "default" sweep by setting the "in the box" parameters for that part of the band?
I am also a bit befuddled as to what the "in the box options" actually do. Is there a tutorial or something on exactly how the app works as some of these options are obviously done by programmers who like to use double negatives and mutually exclusive options that get confusing.
And what of the "K and Ka sweeps" option under the "special" setting? I don't see the possibility to include K band sweeps under the custom area.
It really would be great to lock out certain k frequencies like door openers and what not. Possibly even some of these 18 wheelers that have it somewhere... I don't know if it's a pre-pass transponder or what the heck it is in those big rigs, but sometimes they will drive me crazy for miles.
in the box is muting function mute or not mute. Sweep only applys to Ka band which you can box for muting as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvetus
Ok you can't customise k band for sweeps.With the V1 C app All you can do is narrow the box to what the cops use in your area eg 24.150 GHz so box 24.100 to 24.200 to be safe. Then un-mute in the box and mute outside the box. When in euro mode ( which Is where you want to be) 33.8 GHz is on by default you can't turn it off at all. You don't need to fill up all the sweep option. You could just sweep (sweep 1)34.600 to 34.770 GHz (S2) 34.774 to 34.800GHz and (S3) 35.400 to 35.600GHz. Don't worry about the 4mhz space the v1 over sweeps so it's covered. If you have pop or 33.8 GHz in your area you are cover by default in euro mode. I know it's hard to put your head it around to start with but it will become easy in time. Also if your not too sure about the Frequencies used in your area use the v1 in USA mode till you have some knowledge on them.now......... Third party apps for iOS stealthAssist v1 is good it will mute out k band like savvy under whatever speed you set it to @$10. The real kicker is the android app yav1 (free so far)it auto mutes like the bells and escorts but it does it better. So yeah I know a head full but in time and searching OTHER FORUMS you will find a lot of helpful information and people that really know this stuff. Remember pop is on by default in euro mode pretty sure it's something to do with the v1 j alert yes it still "J's" out some false alerts!If you get falsies you can see the frequency and disregard it easily. In the box un-mute and out of the box mute is magic most of the time. Regards
Regardless of what app I use, TMF eliminated most blind spot falses, even the tough ones like Audi. In my area, (low risk to real k band enforcement) I gladly take the reduced sensitivity for the quietness on k-band.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1I run iOS. As far as I known pop Ka is full time. Yav1 is a another story. I'm unsure about it. It sounds really good thou. I don't run tmf as it kills the k band sensitivity a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freebird
I may have to find an Android phone or tablet I can use to try the YaV1 app...at least, if it's so much better than that ios app as people are saying.
Maybe someone will develop a better ios app down the line...who knows. I have an extra iphone 4s that I can throw in the truck I guess if I want to use the app and keep it separate from my regular phone. I will run with it for a while and once I get the freq's figured out, I will just probably run the V1 in C mode and keep the phone disconnected. I think I'm getting a decent handle on how it works ahead of getting my upgrade, so I will have a good idea of how I want to try it first.
Thanks for the info!
V1 useless??? I don't think so. I run with mine set at factory settings and even with cars coming out with all sorts of sensors, I haven't had any problems with that.
I agree with this 100%. Never had a problem or regret with my V1. I have X turned off and everything else on.Quote:
Originally Posted by camkuhns
just ordered the latest and greatest with the V1C....
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Originally Posted by Arvetus
The latest is .894, no one knows if it's the greatest. It does have TMF2 however, to quiet down the falses we all get on K band with the V1.
Well, I'm not sure it's the greatest yet either. Got good Ka and K band reception...as good as or better than the 3.813. Custom Ka is really great and the V1C is super! But gotta send it back for repairs already because the laser sensor and/or circuitry has issues right out of the box. Boo. Constant random laser falses...sitting in my driveway...in the woods. Ahh well. Guess it will get a better run once it comes back.
3.894 is like 3.873 all over again. Both are TMF updates and we know what happened next.
īplease explain what TMF is and what did happened next after that?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigVoner
3.894 is it a bad update version like Apple's software flop recently for their I6 phones?
[QUOTE=kowalski;910973]...please explain what TMF is.... [QUOTE]
Look under V1 info on the Valentine website which explains the newer version of the traffic monitor filter (II)...
Yeah, I will have to upgrade my V1, it does not have any type of TMF. The detector goes off on K band when I hit the on ramp alerts constantly during my 11 mile interstate commute and stops or reduces on the exit ramp getting off the interstate. All from modern cars with side lane radar. In that case it really is totally useless.
If you upgrade and get the newest from VR you can tame the v1 down alot even more so with custom sweeps
The .894 does introduce TMF2 which quiets k band at the expense of QT and distance to detect. Advanced filtering adds processing time to determine the threat causing this lag. It does cut a lot not all of the chatter. In C (Custom)mode with sweeps k band can be turned off and on by changing C to Little c by pushing the tuner. The YaV1 app/android phone offers much in the way of quieting with sweeps on Ka and lockouts for falses on k and ka that is well thought out and highly functional. The upgrade and dongle combo are positive improvements and worth the cost for older V1's prior to esp. So to say the "V1 is pretty much useless" might be accurate for those who don't advance its capabilities.
There should be a qualifier on its uselessness then: If you don't want to run TMF 1 or TMF2 and do NOT want to tether through the dongle to a phone, then I'd agree that in a metro area with a LOT of K falsing, that the V1 can be useless. NOW, if you're willing to sacrifice and run LIL c which turns K off, then the V1C is by no means useless. Its a great unit, just very chatty on K band . Its a very capable unit if you're willing to sacrifice some sensitivity on K band.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownOut
Every time I see the subject title, it reminds me of the statement, "like tits on a boar hog". They are there, but are there to be used only under certain conditions, just like the V1 is not a metro RD. As for as the hog things, just to turn the sow on, or maybe a homo pig......
Folks if you live in an area of a lot of K-band radar, turning K-band off is not an option. I have been running detectors since the late 1970s. This is the first time that I am considering pulling the RD out off the car. With more and more cars being bought with radar and laser safety devises, it just isn't worth the constant non-stop alerts. Last week I drove from Birmingham, Alabama to Atlanta, GA on I-20. I had to turn the V1 off - just simply got tired of the 'noise'. Unless technology can catch up, RD are no longer in the speed detection avoidance discussion. Reducing range to limit the number of false alerts? Are you for real? If that's the case go out and buy a Radio Shack unit - um, sorry, they don't exist any more. I think our days are numbered unless someone can find a way for the detector to differentiate between a police speed radar signal and a automotive safety devise which operates in the same radio frequencies. Same goes for laser.
I loved to hear your opinions.
Escort and VR have found ways around these systems but the hard part is implantation. VR now has TMF2 and Escort has there improved TSR that help with these falses a lot. And with the incredible range the V1 and RedLine have a little loss in long range detection is not as big of a deal as before.Quote:
Originally Posted by v1fanv1fan
There is also an awesome app for the V1 that makes it by far the best all around RD since it adds GPS filtering for the stationary falses as well as a lot of other features.
[/QUOTE]There should be a qualifier on its uselessness then: If you don't want to run TMF 1 or TMF2 and do NOT want to tether through the dongle to a phone, then I'd agree that in a metro area with a LOT of K falsing, that the V1 can be useless.[/QUOTE]
I would have to disagree on this sentence. I have taken my V1 through metro Denver and Colorado springs a number of times and even though it picks up whatever K band falses going through those cities, I have not considered my V1 "useless".
There should be a qualifier on its uselessness then: If you don't want to run TMF 1 or TMF2 and do NOT want to tether through the dongle to a phone, then I'd agree that in a metro area with a LOT of K falsing, that the V1 can be useless.[/QUOTE]
I would have to disagree on this sentence. I have taken my V1 through metro Denver and Colorado springs a number of times and even though it picks up whatever K band falses going through those cities, I have not considered my V1 "useless".[/QUOTE]
Dude, you quoted the wrong person. I was arguing that its NOT worthless. read the whole thread??? duh........................
Dude.....I did read the entire thread. It was the first sentence in your reply to BrownOut. I run with my V1 at factory settings and in All Bogeys setting.