Another silly idea

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03-16-2006, 10:32 AM
Studdg

Another silly idea

Is it possible to produce an untinted windshield laminate that could conduct reflect laser? The kind of thing that if you have mounted your RD high, and you get zapped in the lower left hand corner, the zap is spread throughout the windshield laminate, and your RD could pick it up? I think something like this would also improve Lidar detection, since the windscreen is a large area, and two+ tiny bits of reflected lidar would be combined into a single stronger lidar reflection, which the RD would be able to see. Just a thought.
03-16-2006, 10:37 AM
Rottman

You will need to ask Professor Jimbonzz.....
03-16-2006, 10:45 AM
originalwack19

Re: Another silly idea

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Originally Posted by Studdg

Is it possible to produce an untinted windshield laminate that could conduct reflect laser? The kind of thing that if you have mounted your RD high, and you get zapped in the lower left hand corner, the zap is spread throughout the windshield laminate, and your RD could pick it up? I think something like this would also improve Lidar detection, since the windscreen is a large area, and two+ tiny bits of reflected lidar would be combined into a single stronger lidar reflection, which the RD would be able to see. Just a thought.

You have to make sure it doesn't reflect back to the LEO too. If this would work, it would basically absorb the laser (from what it sounds like) because it would take the laser and deflect it towards your RD and not back to the LEO. Is this what you were thinking of?
03-16-2006, 10:54 AM
Mase

What you're describing is exactly what the horn on the radar detector does to begin with.
03-16-2006, 11:41 AM
Rottman

But would it work?
03-16-2006, 11:57 AM
jimbonzzz

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Originally Posted by davekr

You will need to ask Professor Jimbonzz.....

I don't know about this one, pretty out there. You guys ask some of the craziest stuff on here :lol:
03-16-2006, 12:01 PM
Rottman

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Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

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Originally Posted by davekr

You will need to ask Professor Jimbonzz.....

I don't know about this one, pretty out there. You guys ask some of the craziest stuff on here :lol:

:shock: You are the man professor.
03-16-2006, 12:45 PM
Hessen

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Originally Posted by Mase

What you're describing is exactly what the horn does

:shock: :shock: :shock:
03-16-2006, 12:58 PM
Rottman

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Originally Posted by the horn13

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Originally Posted by Mase

What you're describing is exactly what the horn does

:shock: :shock: :shock:

I think he meant in a radar detector?
03-16-2006, 01:33 PM
unixium

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Originally Posted by Mase

What you're describing is exactly what the horn on the radar detector does to begin with.

Which is great for radar, but does little for laser, which is what he OP was asking for.

Lucite makes a great light pipe, but it's certainly not pratical to try and create laminate for your windshield.

Really, for what you're asking, your best bet would be to build a dedicated laser detector that utilized multiple sensors located at various places on your vehicles. Say a photo resistor at each corner of your windshield, directly under|over|next to your headlights, and one on each side of your LP.

The Laser Jammer forum has a some schematics posted that could probably be adapted to do just this.

Then if you can figure out the wiring input to your RD, you might be able to design a interface that would allow you to trigger your RD's LASER alert (say, like the Beltronics 905 can use a Beltronics RD to alert you to the fact it's sensed LIDAR).
03-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Mase

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Originally Posted by davekr

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Originally Posted by the horn13

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Originally Posted by Mase

What you're describing is exactly what the horn does

:shock: :shock: :shock:

I think he meant in a radar detector?

Oops. You're right. I didnt realize he was asking strictly about laser.
03-16-2006, 08:47 PM
Studdg

I guess what I'm looking for is something that won't necessarily focus laser to the Laser Detector, but something that would simply spread the laser throughout the surface of the windshield. Since the RD sits a couple of inches from the windshield, it would have an easy time picking up the Lidar shot, even if that shot was on the far corner of the front window.
03-16-2006, 08:59 PM
AirMoore

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Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

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Originally Posted by davekr

You will need to ask Professor Jimbonzz.....

I don't know about this one, pretty out there. You guys ask some of the craziest stuff on here :lol:

Well its a good thing I didnt ask you about this 'birds and bees' thing someone just told me about.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
03-16-2006, 09:30 PM
jimbonzzz

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Originally Posted by AirMoore

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Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

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Originally Posted by davekr

You will need to ask Professor Jimbonzz.....

I don't know about this one, pretty out there. You guys ask some of the craziest stuff on here :lol:

Well its a good thing I didnt ask you about this 'birds and bees' thing someone just told me about.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
03-17-2006, 03:07 AM
FLYBOY!!!!!

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Originally Posted by unixium

Which is great for radar, but does little for laser, which is what he OP was asking for.

Lucite makes a great light pipe, but it's certainly not pratical to try and create laminate for your windshield.

Really, for what you're asking, your best bet would be to build a dedicated laser detector that utilized multiple sensors located at various places on your vehicles. Say a photo resistor at each corner of your windshield, directly under|over|next to your headlights, and one on each side of your LP.

The Laser Jammer forum has a some schematics posted that could probably be adapted to do just this.

Then if you can figure out the wiring input to your RD, you might be able to design a interface that would allow you to trigger your RD's LASER alert (say, like the Beltronics 905 can use a Beltronics RD to alert you to the fact it's sensed LIDAR).

Yeah, it's all good to try and make a larger area to detect LIDAR but generally speaking, if you get 'hit' by a laser it's going to be too late to do anything about it. Unless you pick up a scatter from the laser hitting another vehicle, then you may have time to slow down.
The only real option to defeat LIDAR is to use an active jamming device.
Over here with the LTI UltraLyte it only takes 0.3 sec to get a reading and if you're the only one around, you're screwed.