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04-05-2006, 08:15 PM
g60_corrado_91

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Hello, this is my second post on this forum. I am currently looking into the Escort 8500 X50 and read the whole 2005 radar test review. They said the X50 had better laser than the RX65 Pro, but not as good as the V1. However, it didn't have as many false alarms as the V1 or RX65. Obviously most of you guys would recommend the X50 to me. I'd love to get the V1, but I really don't feel like spending $100 more than the X50 and I don't like the sound of programming the V1 compared to the X50. My one question was, I've heard that the X50 laser goes off sometimes when the horn is honked. Any insight on this? Thanks.
04-05-2006, 08:28 PM
g_jammer

I've heard of a couple cases of this (horn false alarms), but it doesn't seem to be a wide spread chronic problem.

The V1 is a fine detector, as is the X50, but as far as laser, understand that in reality, 99% of the time, laser detection on a RD won't help you when your being hit by laser...you won't outbrake the Lidar gun's ability to capture your speed.

You may be able to pickup laser scatter from cars in front of you being lasered, or reduce the level of IR your car reflects to maybe buy you some time, but these 2 things alone are not adequate defenses.

There are a lot of good posts on this site regarding the topics you are concerned with, be sure to do a search.
04-05-2006, 08:40 PM
g60_corrado_91

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Originally Posted by g_jammer

There are a lot of good posts on this site regarding the topics you are concerned with, be sure to do a search.

Thanks for the help. I have already searched a bunch and learned a lot too. I've heard that VEIL helps with the laser. So basically I'm to assume that, without VEIL, laser can get even the V1. In that case, I will probably end up going with the X50 since it offers almost all the same performance of the V1, save laser, for $100 less.
04-05-2006, 08:46 PM
asianfire

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Originally Posted by g_jammer

There are a lot of good posts on this site regarding the topics you are concerned with, be sure to do a search.

Thanks for the help. I have already searched a bunch and learned a lot too. I've heard that VEIL helps with the laser. So basically I'm to assume that, without VEIL, laser can get even the V1. In that case, I will probably end up going with the X50 since it offers almost all the same performance of the V1, save laser, for $100 less.

Yeap, even with the V1, you still can get hit by laser and get a ticket. By the way, how often do you honk your horn?????
04-05-2006, 08:51 PM
g_jammer

Laser can get your speed as quick as 3-tenths of a second, that is quicker than you can even take your foot off the gas.

Veil for lights and LaserShield for Plates are used to compliment a laser jammer, definently not replace one.

If you don't have a lot of chrome or other highly reflective surfaces and if you have a dark colored car with Veil and LaserShield, you may be able to buy a little extra time before being clocked by Lidar from a distance.
04-05-2006, 08:51 PM
g60_corrado_91

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Originally Posted by g_jammer

There are a lot of good posts on this site regarding the topics you are concerned with, be sure to do a search.

Thanks for the help. I have already searched a bunch and learned a lot too. I've heard that VEIL helps with the laser. So basically I'm to assume that, without VEIL, laser can get even the V1. In that case, I will probably end up going with the X50 since it offers almost all the same performance of the V1, save laser, for $100 less.

Yeap, even with the V1, you still can get hit by laser and get a ticket. By the way, how often do you honk your horn?????

Not often at all. I was just concerned because with my luck, I'll use the horn right when I'll feel the most threaten that a cop is near. Plus it seems like an annoyance considering these are the "top of the line" radar detectors.
04-05-2006, 08:59 PM
g_jammer

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Originally Posted by g60_corrado_91

Not often at all. I was just concerned because with my luck, I'll use the horn right when I'll feel the most threaten that a cop is near. Plus it seems like an annoyance considering these are the "top of the line" radar detectors.

I own a couple X50's and have never had any issues of any kind.

The problem is more likely due to something involving the vehicle than a defect in the RD itself.
04-05-2006, 09:24 PM
g60_corrado_91

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Not often at all. I was just concerned because with my luck, I'll use the horn right when I'll feel the most threaten that a cop is near. Plus it seems like an annoyance considering these are the "top of the line" radar detectors.

I own a couple X50's and have never had any issues of any kind.

The problem is more likely due to something involving the vehicle than a defect in the RD itself.

Since you also live in Illinois, I was curious to know what band you get hit with the most. Does Illinois use a lot of laser? Also, what part of Illinois do you live in? Thanks.
04-05-2006, 09:42 PM
g_jammer

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Since you also live in Illinois, I was curious to know what band you get hit with the most. Does Illinois use a lot of laser? Also, what part of Illinois do you live in? Thanks.

As far as Radar in Illinois, I encounter K band radar ~50% of the time, Ka ~45% of the time and X band about 5% of the time.

You will find a lot of Lidar on the highway used by the State Police, 98% of my laser encounters are on the highway.

The city of Chicago uses a lot of Lidar on Lake Shore drive.

Large towns with plenty of money and high traffic also use Lidar. The one's I know for sure that use laser are Schaumburg, Roselle, Tinley Park, Oak Brook and Orland Park. Towns similar to these will likley utilize Lidar.

I have lived in the City, the North, Western and Southern suburbs of the City, I am currently in the southern suburbs of the city.
04-10-2006, 08:10 PM
HoMeZ

Hello, I'm also new and debating x50 or rx65 and I though I read the rx65 does a bit better with Ka than the X50. Isn't that better since Ka is used more?
04-10-2006, 08:42 PM
crazyVOLVOrob

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Originally Posted by HoMeZ

Hello, I'm also new and debating x50 or rx65 and I though I read the rx65 does a bit better with Ka than the X50. Isn't that better since Ka is used more?

Go with the RX65 but look to a future investment in a jammer
04-10-2006, 08:55 PM
HoMeZ

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Hello, I'm also new and debating x50 or rx65 and I though I read the rx65 does a bit better with Ka than the X50. Isn't that better since Ka is used more?

Go with the RX65 but look to a future investment in a jammer

thanks for the heads up, are you using the rx65 in LI?
04-11-2006, 06:36 AM
AirMoore

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Hello, I'm also new and debating x50 or rx65 and I though I read the rx65 does a bit better with Ka than the X50. Isn't that better since Ka is used more?

Go with the RX65 but look to a future investment in a jammer

thanks for the heads up, are you using the rx65 in LI?

Ka is not used more... the most used band is K right now, but Ka is gaining. The X50 beats the RX65 on K, and the opposite is true for Ka... so it depends on what is used most in your area... either detector is amazing, cant go wrong.

CVR does not have a RX65 (if memory serves me correctly). However he does have the Bel 995, which is nearly identical to the RX65 (as far as detection goes). (He also owns a V1).
04-11-2006, 09:35 AM
crazyVOLVOrob

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Originally Posted by HoMeZ

Hello, I'm also new and debating x50 or rx65 and I though I read the rx65 does a bit better with Ka than the X50. Isn't that better since Ka is used more?

Go with the RX65 but look to a future investment in a jammer

thanks for the heads up, are you using the rx65 in LI?

I use to use the RX65 on LI but then my father had it stolen and replaced it with a v995 and now i have a V1.

I have had a hard time finding speed traps on LI though
04-11-2006, 10:13 AM
asianfire

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I have had a hard time finding speed traps on LI though

And that is a bad thing?????????
04-11-2006, 07:35 PM
HoMeZ

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Originally Posted by HoMeZ

Hello, I'm also new and debating x50 or rx65 and I though I read the rx65 does a bit better with Ka than the X50. Isn't that better since Ka is used more?

Go with the RX65 but look to a future investment in a jammer

thanks for the heads up, are you using the rx65 in LI?

Ka is not used more... the most used band is K right now, but Ka is gaining. The X50 beats the RX65 on K, and the opposite is true for Ka... so it depends on what is used most in your area... either detector is amazing, cant go wrong.

CVR does not have a RX65 (if memory serves me correctly). However he does have the Bel 995, which is nearly identical to the RX65 (as far as detection goes). (He also owns a V1).

I drive down the 87 from where Vermont is all the way to NYC, I know you're from NY so could you tell me what you find more?
It's good to hear that LI has no speed traps, but I thought it did. My friends that go to SBU told me they see cops all the time.
04-11-2006, 11:23 PM
Force5

Don't count on LI not having any speed traps. I always see suckers being pulled over by the cops. Since I don't see many stationary traps (at least no lone cop standing with a gun) I would assume they shoot people from behind while driving ?! Never had a problem but then again I am always listening to my radar detector. Had an RX65 before (it died on me way too early) and it worked well, definitely had better laser detection (then again there was no laser but even falses count...lol) than I have with my current detector but I wanted the convenience of not having to take the detector down each time I get out of the car and then back in, connecting the wire...ugh You get the picture :)

Again, if you are on LI I would suggest you keep looking in your rearview mirror and direction of radar signal if your detector supports it...