Valentine 1 or Bel STi Driver? Need Help, Making a Purchase.

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Originally Posted by happya$$

well professor can you really say that this is true when every encounter is different?

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I interpret "picks up on the bands quicker" to mean "immediacy of response" (whether that is what he meant or not).

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Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

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Originally Posted by happya$$

well professor can you really say that this is true when every encounter is different?

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I interpret "picks up on the bands quicker" to mean "immediacy of response" (whether that is what he meant or not).

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Not to high jack this thread (but a quick question)

jimbonzzz if both detectors get hit with the same signal strength, the V1 will report the detection first over the STi?

I'm going to guess the alert times are minimal to very little difference between the two but what would be a good explanation for this?

Yes. But you're right, the difference of alert times is generally very minimal, we're talking less than a second.

The reason for this is the software filtering algorithms used in the detectors to prevent false alerts. These algorithms require that the radar signal must be present for a certain duration of time in order to trigger an alert. The STi requires that the signal must be present for a longer duration than the Valentine. As far as "immediacy of response" goes, the second best detectors in this respect are the Whistlers, in their unfiltered modes of course.

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Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

Yes. But you're right, the difference of alert times is generally very minimal, we're talking less than a second.

The reason for this is the software filtering algorithms used in the detectors to prevent false alerts. These algorithms require that the radar signal must be present for a certain duration of time in order to trigger an alert. The STi requires that the signal must be present for a longer duration than the Valentine. As far as "immediacy of response" goes, the second best detectors in this respect are the Whistlers, in their unfiltered modes of course.

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Yeah I figured it was a firmware/software thing.

Thanks

Easy. STi...
Rick

I can promise you beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I've witnessed it over 30 times in real world encounters that the STi IS BETTER than the V1 on off axis forward facing encounters.

In some cases I could see the actual cop car before the V1 would go off. Where as with my STi it's never had a problem. Heck even my 9500i owns the V1 on off axis forward facing.

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Originally Posted by eightball135

Since I posted on this forum i've been reading a lot about the Valentine 1 and everybody seems to be having problems, I just want to get one that going to work right.

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Right now, the Valentine 1 has a problem if you turn POP detection on and X-band detection off, where it then falses on X-band. However, turning POP off seems to solve this problem. Because POP detection is pretty much useless, this is more of a "it should be fixed next time around" problem than a "my unit doesn't work" problem.

The V1 3.861 seems to otherwise work quite well. Not a lot of people seem to be having problems.

The STi and V1 are both pretty solid detectors, I don't think that malfunctions are really a differential here.

They are both great RD's. I can't wait to see the next GOL test because I believe it is going to answer a lot of questions about this off axis talk.

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Originally Posted by thestaton

I can promise you beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I've witnessed it over 30 times in real world encounters that the STi IS BETTER than the V1 on off axis forward facing encounters.

In some cases I could see the actual cop car before the V1 would go off. Where as with my STi it's never had a problem. Heck even my 9500i owns the V1 on off axis forward facing.

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Not doubting you, but there had to be something wrong with your V1 if it is alerting after you see the LEO. That or he was using IO.....

And with what bands is your STi better at off axis detection? I own both and I can promise you without a shadow of a doubt that my V1 owns off axis K band detection.

ka on the other hand is very close, but it also depends on the band. I've found my STi does maybe a bit better on 34.7Ghz off axis, but 35.5Ghz is too close to call. Either way if the STi is besting the V1 in off axis detection with Ka it isn't by much. And I certainly don't think it is with all Ka bands. I am speaking from personal experience of course. ;)

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Originally Posted by carboncopy

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Originally Posted by thestaton

I can promise you beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I've witnessed it over 30 times in real world encounters that the STi IS BETTER than the V1 on off axis forward facing encounters.

In some cases I could see the actual cop car before the V1 would go off. Where as with my STi it's never had a problem. Heck even my 9500i owns the V1 on off axis forward facing.

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Not doubting you, but there had to be something wrong with your V1 if it is alerting after you see the LEO. That or he was using IO.....

And with what bands is your STi better at off axis detection? I own both and I can promise you without a shadow of a doubt that my V1 owns off axis K band detection.

ka on the other hand is very close, but it also depends on the band. I've found my STi does maybe a bit better on 34.7Ghz off axis, but 35.5Ghz is too close to call. Either way if the STi is besting the V1 in off axis detection with Ka it isn't by much. And I certainly don't think it is with all Ka bands. I am speaking from personal experience of course. ;)

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great point