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    Default What do you guys prefer? Less or maximum sensitivity?

    I know there are people out there that hate when their detector goes off and no leo is in sight. Would you rather have an extra sensitive which would ultimately pick up lots of door sensors or would you rather have a less sensitive detector that is quieter around town.

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    I'm sure this debate will never truly be settled. Everyone has their own opinions on this one...

    Me personally, I think you want superior filtering along with good sensitivity, sort of the best of both worlds. There is no perfect solution to this question, thats why there are so many choices on detectors in the industry.

    What it comes down to are your driving conditions and your tolerance for noise (ie. false alerts). You also have to consider what types of equipment cops are using in your area.

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    Well the 9500CI will offer its users maximum sensitivity plus GPS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retaliation
    I'm sure this debate will never truly be settled. Everyone has their own opinions on this one...

    Me personally, I think you want superior filtering along with good sensitivity, sort of the best of both worlds. There is no perfect solution to this question, thats why there are so many choices on detectors in the industry.

    What it comes down to are your driving conditions and your tolerance for noise (ie. false alerts). You also have to consider what types of equipment cops are using in your area.
    X2, the closest thing to an equal medium is the V1 with the speedcheetah mirror or the 9500I.

    I personally prefer an "Accurate RD" one that only goes off if it’s a direct and real threat. I have found the 9500I to be the closest thing, but sometimes people perceive this as not sensitive when in fact all you need to do is react and not overanalyze the alert.
    I debated this in another post.
    Radar from a gun can get your speed in the best conditions at approximately a maximum of 3000ft in moving mode, and a maximum 5500ft in stationary mode, how much more sensitivity do you really need? An extra 500, 1000ft, 3000ft? It only takes a few seconds to slow down. Besides the fact that the LEO needs to be able to make out who is speeding and 3000ft would be difficult to see.
    If I pick up a real threat with 10 seconds to react on a less "sensitive" RD, and 13 seconds to react with a more "sensitive" RD, does it really matter when it only takes 4 seconds to slow down?

    Sensitivity doesn’t equate to not getting a ticket, the ability to communicate a real threat and the driver’s reaction to that threat equates to not getting a ticket. Its ½ driver ½ the RD responsibility to prevent a ticket. The most sensitive RD in the world won’t prevent a ticket if it doesn’t communicate the real threat clearly and the driver doesn’t react correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happya$$
    Well the 9500CI will offer its users maximum sensitivity plus GPS!
    Untell the cops find out what the door band is and theres and go sit next to a place that has the same and gets all the 9500I (GPS) people lol.

    As for the question BEST sensitive but needs to count the alerts and show if they are behind or in front of you.

    P.S. thats a V1

    P.S.S. If i got a ticket with the 9500I b/c of the GPS and it has been more than the 30 days. Right in front of the cop I would smash it into a million pieces. And maybe he would not give me that ticket he was writing.

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    It's a matter of personal taste, but I'd want maximum sensitivity and filtering. I don't mind if my detector goes off because of a legit radar source 3 miles away, as long as it correctly reports the signal as being weak, not pegged at 9 bars for 30 minutes or 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-9-9-9-9.

    Others would beg to differ and want their detector to STFU until it's important

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    Default Re: What do you guys prefer? Less or maximum sensitivity?

    Quote Originally Posted by rose1
    I know there are people out there that hate when their detector goes off and no leo is in sight. Would you rather have an extra sensitive which would ultimately pick up lots of door sensors or would you rather have a less sensitive detector that is quieter around town.
    I don't think that's the case. I think they just don't understand why. :wink:
    I will still vote for increase sensitivity with good filtering. There are a good number of detectors that can minimize the annoyance of continuous alert with features such as auto mute and muting alert for a certain period of time. Also, use of laser speed detection devices are increasingly being used. I have not seen a perfect RD to date that will solve the problem without vulnerability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost917
    Untell the cops find out what the door band is and theres and go sit next to a place that has the same and gets all the 9500I (GPS) people lol..
    As if they have nothing better to do. :roll:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost917
    P.S.S. If i got a ticket with the 9500I b/c of the GPS and it has been more than the 30 days. Right in front of the cop I would smash it into a million pieces. And maybe he would not give me that ticket he was writing.
    You definitely shouldn’t own a 9500I, it doesn’t work that way. By the way he was talking about the new 9500ci. :?

    The 9500ci Is suppose to give increase sensitivity with good filtering, but we will see. 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost917
    Untell the cops find out what the door band is and theres and go sit next to a place that has the same and gets all the 9500I (GPS) people...
    If cops did this, then you could easily argue in court that the door opener on the same frequency interfered with the radar gun's reading. In fact, any K band door opener has the potential to interfere with a K band radar gun's reading if the officer operates his K band radar very close to a K band door opener. The only scenario where I see this occurring is if the officer tries to measure your speed from a considerable distance. The returned signal off your car from his radar gun would be pretty weak and then the nearby door opener signal could easily get mixed into to radar gun's speed calculation. This is just a theory of mine. Maybe somebody with a K band radar gun should test this theory. If the door opener does occasionally produce interference then a video should be made which we all could use in court if ticketed in a similar situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEM-TEK
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost917
    Untell the cops find out what the door band is and theres and go sit next to a place that has the same and gets all the 9500I (GPS) people...
    If cops did this, then you could easily argue in court that the door opener on the same frequency interfered with the radar gun's reading. In fact, any K band door opener has the potential to interfere with a K band radar gun's reading if the officer operates his K band radar very close to a K band door opener. The only scenario where I see this occurring is if the officer tries to measure your speed from a considerable distance. The returned signal off your car from his radar gun would be pretty weak and then the nearby door opener signal could easily get mixed into to radar gun's speed calculation. This is just a theory of mine. Maybe somebody with a K band radar gun should test this theory. If the door opener does occasionally produce interference then a video should be made which we all could use in court if ticketed in a similar situation.
    Sure, one might be able to use that as part of a successful defense. But in reality, it isn't likely to happen:

    Because of the doppler shift, the police radar guns are looking for the reflected signal to be a number of Hz or KHz off of the transmitted signal. Anything outside this range is basically ignored by the gun.

    The doppler shift for K-Band for 1 MPH is (approximately) 72 Hz. So the highest practical doppler shift would be around 14 KHz, the doppler shift for K-Band at 199 MPH (the approximate operational limit for many guns). For a motion sensor to interfere with the police radar, it would have to be within 14 KHz of the police radar. Most of the time, even two same-model radar guns are different in frequency by many MHz, since Gunn oscillators just aren't that stable, hence the +/- 100 MHz bandpass for K-Band. Even trying to purposely tune a motion sensor to be this close to the radar would probably be nearly impossible.

    For example, if the officer had a K-Band radar unit at exactly:
    24.150000000 GHz,

    For a motion sensor to interfere it would have to be at:
    24.150014328 GHz

    ... or closer in frequency.

    For some rough odds, divide the 200 MHz wide police K-Band by 14328 Hz, and you end up with a 1 in 13,958 chance that a motion sensor's frequency would happen to fall close enough to the radar gun's frequency to interfere. Not likely to happen, but it IS possible.

    Sounds like reasonable doubt to me

 

 

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