Well the weather was great! I think it was around 53 the day of the test!Quote:
it's fecking cold out here and I need my trenchcoat back!"
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Well the weather was great! I think it was around 53 the day of the test!Quote:
it's fecking cold out here and I need my trenchcoat back!"
Hey Roy,
Nice videos of the STi vs Spectre.
Do you have any videos that show the Spectre vs. an x50 or V1. I'd be interested in seeing those, and finding out a little more about the range that they leak to. What was the cordless one you used in the video?
No videos, just the test results here: http://www.radarbusters.com/support/spectre/4.aspQuote:
Do you have any videos that show the Spectre vs. an x50 or V1.
That was a PNI Silver Bullet in the video
The Guys of Lidar did a video on the spectre vs some of the other detectors. I don't think that video is currently avaliable yet. Also the laser video from the August test is done and Roy has them in hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by licamell
Got to find them in the MH :-)Quote:
Also the laser video from the August test is done and Roy has them in hand.
The issue of whether either or both of the V1 logic modes affects Ka and/or K band filtering has been spreading over several different threads, so I'm going to try to consolidate it in one place (at least until it's finally resolved): http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...?p=89328#89328
Did anyone notice the Spectre apparently detected the VG2? :lol:
The video of the trip and other stuff will be up in 2 hours. There is not much on the radar stuff just mostly us talking to officers and stuff.
Yeah :lol: More importantly, did anyone notice that the VG2 actually detected the STi at very close range (I think they were almost touching). That actually bodes well for the STi because it proves that they didn't even have to move their LO frequency since the antenna design and shielding are so good! Nice job, Bel :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
If it is truely a matter of them having reduces leaks to a minumum through good case/antenna design, then my hats off to them!Quote:
Originally Posted by o2bad455
It is interesting to see the amount of leakage by a plain radar detector, and the range of how far that can travel and possibly effect our radar detectors.
What, if any, is the detectable range a better built Beltronics/Escort/V1 compared that to a Cobra/Whistler/PNI from a Spectre RDD, or another way of asking this question, what are the amounts of leakage comparatively. Are they basicly all the same. Or is their a significant difference? I am not asking because of evading a RDD, but rather a better understanding of theis interference. You hear it all the time, falsing from other detectors. Yet I can only speculate that I may have had, maybe, one time, a "false" (K band) due to another RD. I have been side by side with all of them, even next to my friends Cobra XRS or what ever it is, and nothing.
I was on the road this weekend, and I was on a look out for those possible Ka frequencies that were way off their normal numbers, knowing the tech display is not very accurate, and to figure out if troopers do run some bad guns (that I need to use Ka wide mode) or maybe I just did write down bogus numbers, but I swear I did not, tripled checked, wrote it down on the spot! But who knows.
Well this is the thing, I took my road trip and nothing going up. Coming back, highway mode, Ka wide, got a week Ka 34.7 blip (tech mode said 34.680), it went away, but came back, away again, back and forth. I fliped it into Ka narrow, to see if the strenght increased. No change, weak Ka 34.7 (34.600). Time was getting to be very long, and I was thinking either the trooper is ahead or behind traveling same directing and I was going to have a boring drive (yeah, yeah, I hear all you V1 people saying "gotta get the arrows").
Anyways what happens next is basicly all within the same period of time, my wife says that SUV that passed had a RD on the windshield! I was very intrigued, I have never had a Ka false. So I plow forward and verify it is a Cobra XRS (sorry folks, what ever the model is), but now we roll up on a trooper (34.7xx) opposite side of the road, then sitting next to the SUV, nothing, then again we spot another trooper going past us opposite direction also (34.7xx). So now I am sitting dead silent next to the SUV with the Cobra. And the nthe next minute again I get a Ka alert and then verify a trooper. It was a bee hive for 50 miles of troopers.
I tell you I was getting a little frustrated with a big part of the drive with all the weak Ka blips. Yeah sure I did go on to find the trooeprs. And I know I can trust my RD because of past experiences. It is just that this "interference" factor is bugging me now. Go figure resolve one issue Ka wide or narrow. Now do I really have to worry about getting Ka "falses" from other detectors.
I hope this make a little bit of sense.
Check Roy's site on RDDs he gots data on all 3 Spectres against various Rds. I think thats what you are asking for?
Your Bel must do some filtering to remove the falses from other detectors. Keep in mind that traveling next to another detector probably reduces your range since a real threat may be dismissed as part of the leaky detector's emissions. I was forced to use a Uniden (cringe) superwide while I was without my trusty V1, and experienced first hand falses from many other detectors. In addition, I'm afraid that I was causing falsing of other folks' detectors :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by amoney
Anyway, the GOL have done alot of testing of Spectre range against various RDs, and this is a pretty good indication of leakage since the Spectre III finally covered all of the used LO frequencies (unlike earlier versions that simply missed checking the right frequency). The SML and C&D tests can also be used for this particular purpose. The pre-STi results were basically that the V1 was about the best, with 150' detection from the front and 300' detection range from the rear. Most others are worse from the front, while only those with rear-facing antennas seem to be bad from the rear. Hint: for anyone using a V1 in verboten land, the rear emissions can be a real problem.
Thanks I forgot about that data! That does help answer my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
Thanks for your feed back, and yes I suppose I might have some good filtering, just this recent trip, the first weak Ka was so long as far as time to actual LEO, that I doubt I could have had that range, seriously, but with out arrows I dont know if it was a trooper traveling, and then pulled someone over for the duration. All I know is that I now know how csteph felt with constant blips of weak Ka. Argh. It was irritating. And then seeing that Cobra, it just bugged me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by o2bad455
I was concerned that as everyone says, even if my Bel is filtering out a Cobra and staying silent, it is still potentially harming in that my detector will have hindered performance... "parked" on a frquency. That was the main concerne of my question.
Video is ready. At the bottom of the page
http://www.jasonsvideoproductions.co...uysoflidar.htm
OUTRUN
Thats 168 megs for you dialup folks out there... "You know you are a radar detector fanatic when you download a 168 meg GOL video file on dialup!"
Thanks OUTRUN!
Excellent Video, Thanks Outrun and the gang!
Oh yeah sorry about the large file. I didn't think anyone was still on dial up. Better hope no one calls.
Don't expect any radar stuff in this video. I didn't even ride in the car when they were doing it. I think we had enough officers to occupy my time.
thanks Outrun
Just to be clear, I got broadband, so no problems! :wink:
Bangbus....Quote:
Originally Posted by outrun
ROFLMAO :lol: :lol:
I just watched that 2 seconds ago and LMAO!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ES13Raven
I wasn't going to say it but if you know what it is :D :lol: :idea:
Bang-bus rocks! I need to get there job
EDIT
Enough said!
http://home.comcast.net/~asadowsk/bin/bangbus.jpg
Here is the clip for desperate dialup enthusiasts.
He said what!? Yeah he did!
As always an excellent job on your video Outrun. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by outrun
Cop: "So, do you guys work for a radar detector company or what?"
GOL: "BURN THE HERETIC!!!"
After watching the whole video, I have a new apprieciation for how difficult the testing was made for the RD's. Considering the fact that basicly the radar was pointing just about perpendicular to the side of the road into a wooded field not allowing for reflectivity, and looking at how close all the cones were apart from each other, all these detectors won, even those detectors that seem to do worst then other exact same models. The difference is nill. I am please that all did extremly well. Yeah there is a difference from the first cone (not the 795) and the last cone (furthest away) so those are the points people really get spooked, but then the performance varyed for each radar, so again, no one is better than another in that regard. And everyone can reduce their medication levels and sleep better at night knowing they have the best.
GOOD NIGHT! :D 8)
WHen the cop with the Laser was hitting the BMW--what laser jammer is on that car? That was some funny stuff, cope didnt know what to say to that when he couldnt get a reading for a while
Blinder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holla
And of course VEIL, unless he happened to have it off between test runs or something.
Jm
Im thinking of getting a jammer, but I dont want the extra coverage of the veil coating on everything--would the Blinder do enough in jamming by itself?
Jason, the music makes me think you are an 80s porn star, reincarnated as a Radar Enthusiast, who still likes 80s porn music.
jk of course.
:D
My first thought about the music :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by RapidTransitSystem
What kind of vehicle do you have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Holla
Well then it worked. Cause it was like the opening for a porn or an 80's movie. Had the police siren it etc. I guess like chips or something.
Holla,
Some jammers can have punchthroughs at far and close ranges, depending on a variety of factors including placement relative to headlights, make and color of vehicle, and laser gun used.
Veil has demonstrated that it will further improve performance of jammers by reducing and/or eliminate those punchthroughs.
Veil doesn't go on the entire front of the vehicle...only the headlights and the like.
Good luck with whatever you decide!
Veil Guy 8)
Seathy--I have a 99 4-Runner (white) has the painted front bumpers not chrome. But my grill area is chrome.
Veilguy--I would like to use the stuff but I dont like how it dulls the looks of whatever it goes on--like dirty headlights etc....
2nd Car: 04 RX330 just a litttle chrome around the grill, not much
Exactly! Well said. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by amoney
except for the express, they are all close in area. time and time the tests show that they all perform well and any of them would be a good choice. it just depends on what style or features the individual likes.
it amazes me when i read how some people want to complain or criticize.
maybe they can spend all there own time and money putting something together like GOL does.
The crown for "King of the Hill" has yet to be handed out, until one unit consistently out shines on EVERY test by a large margin. as in if the testcones were reversed and one stood alone past the others.
for now, the "my brand is better no matter what" is old and played out.
It is only the best for the individual that chooses it, not for everyone.
Bow-chika-wow-wow 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by outrun