V1 vs Redline, which one should I get?

I did some indoor tests a long time ago (2007?), so things may have changed, but my STi (M3 like Redline) and V1 could only detect each other when they were aimed directly at each other with all guards off, and very close together (closer than half a car width, IIRC). From memory now (I would have posted here but haven't searched), although the STi saw the V1 on X band, the V1 saw the STi on K and/or Ka bands. Since I usually run both with X OFF, and the V1 with Ka GUARD OFF, it's actually more likely that the STi might affect the V1 than vise-versa. Although both have been upgraded several times since then, I've never had any issues running them simultaneously on opposite sides of the car (admittedly with X OFF on at least the STi), and aimed parallel rather than at each other, but I only run both about half the time (e.g., RD unrestricted area, night, etc.). I've tested extensively with a fixed Ka source (around 34.7) and found no change for either RD with the other RD on or off. Although the theoretical possibility that one or both may be distracting the other is certainly there, the added info (freq counter AND arrows) plus the extra catches from the two separate positions have definitely made it worthwhile to me. If I really thought either was truly interfering with the other, I'd put some EcoSorb(?) between them before I'd turn either off. YMMV.

Interference tends to show it's head mostly with delayed alerts or missed alerts on our detectors. This is due to our filtering which tries to eliminate alerts from other detectors' LO emissions (the primary source of this interference). Only extreme interference will cause false alerts on our detectors. There is independent testing data showing these effects (mostly effecting Ka) even on custom installed systems.

The emissions emit mainly from the horn opening/s so, depending on reflections in front of the horn (road signs, cars ahead of you, etc) the effects will vary. Reducing these emissions from the horn/s using obstructions like eccosorb will also limit detection because you will have to block the horn. Our patented M3 antenna is the only detector design that limits emissions while not effecting performance. It's not due the magnesium case, it's the inherent design of the M3.

Some are aware of the interference and are fine living with it in order to use multiple detectors. I only stress interference when people report their test findings while using multiple detectors.

If you want to know just how much LO emissions a detector is emitting then test them with a RDD such as a Spectre as GoL did years ago (bottom of page). They also have a page dedicated to why you shouldn't run two detectors together here.

I'd say, try both. But make sure to use the Live service. If it works as advertised, it'll blow the arrows and V1's "savvy" out of the water.

Very interesting thread and I wish I had read it before I ordered my Redline. Yes, I know they're close but all you have to do is mark on a peace of paper the 'plus' comments for each and its easy to see which one wins. Thing' is, I really wanted the V1 but the payment options for the RL swayed me, plus the sales guy tossed in a couple of freebies. Besides, the V1 website sorta turned me off as it just seems flakey and the so-called demos never seem to work. This has been the case for a while, using Safari and Chrome and it just sends a negative message to me.

Still, I considered Quality, Ease of Use, Price and add-on’s. With Escort Live it’s pretty hard to decide since I see great potential in that alone. Oh well, the RL arrives today and I do plan on giving it a fare chance with an upcoming road trip next week. It’s my first detector so I have nothing to compare with, but I’m already wishing I had the arrows.

Hey there Digital Dude,
Congrats on making the plunge. You've bought one of the most sensitive detectors available today. Don't sweat the lack of arrows, you'll do just fine. The V1 really isn't the ideal detector for everyone and most likely the redline is best for your needs, maybe even a little hot for a first timer.
Along with extreme sensitivity comes other issues owners of lesser detectors need not worry about. Your redline is going to tell you about signals other RDs drive right by.
Read and understand your owner's manual. You can probably disable X band straight away.
Always be aware of the speed limit and the speed you are travelling. Resist the urge to hit the brakes when you are alerted if you know you are obeying.
The single most important thing to do is to become familiar with what the detector is telling you, and how it tells you. This can only be accomplished by logging miles/hours together. Remember each alert and what that alert was pointing out.Certain nuances in RD response will become evident. Eventually you will develop an enhanced understanding of your detector.
Your eyes and your common sense are your best defense, with the added input from from your redline only serving to make you all the more able to spot a potential penalty for a lapse in judgement before it happens.

Digital Dude. Congratulations on your RedLine purchase! I can't imagine the detection range that you are going to experience in AZ's dry climate. It should be incredible.

Did you happen to get Escort Live with your RedLine? If you have an iPhone or Android OS2.2 or higher smartphone then I highly recommend getting a SmartCord Live so that you can use Escort Live with your RedLine. Escort Live compliments the RedLine very well, giving it many of the features of the 9500ix, 9500ci, and STi-R Plus. These features include TrueLock to eliminate false alerts, camera alerts, your current speed and posted speed limit data, and Live alerts. Live alerts are radar, laser, and manual reports from other Escort Live users.

Hi Escort... & company,
I just returned from my maiden voyage from the foothills to town, which is a 25-mile round trip freeway jaunt. I quickly became familiar with 24.160~210 store door openers and my own 33.7xx garage door opener freqs’. It occurred within 100ft of the sources, and ramp-up and fall-off was fairly good.

I set it up to Highway, X band off, and spec mode. The sales guy tossed in the super suction-cup window mount so I set it rather low on the glass to avoid ‘follow the leader’ folks. On my late model Passat, the mount w/Redline looks very clean. One simple press of the release button and the unit slides off for storage while I grabbed a bite to eat.

Yes, I do live in a predominantly flat area that extends about 170+ miles east, west and north. Also south but that’s Mexico and you couldn’t pay me enough to drive down there! Anyway, I guess this is why others’ recommended the Redline when I’ve made previous forum inquiries.

I'm looking forward to my trip to Phoenix next week to really get a feel for how it performs out on the open flatness. The Arizona DPS is pretty active out there so I will see activity and onward through the city freeway system. Based on the forum database listings, they use K and Ka 'Stalker' with some Laser, although I have yet to see that anywhere except with motor-cops in my piss-ant town of Yuma.

No, I didn't get the 'Escort Live' but I'm hoping they'll still honor the budled discount (that was offered) if I call them back. I didn't plan on an iPhone until later in the year so I didn't add it on the order, but I would save 60-bucks towards the future. Since that would effectively shave a portion off from the first year service, I'm not sure its really a super deal in my circumstance.

Dan

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Hi Escort... & company,

I just returned from my maiden voyage from the foothills to town, which is a 25-mile round trip freeway jaunt. I quickly became familiar with 24.160~210 store door openers and my own 33.7xx garage door opener freqs’. I set it up to Highway, X band off, and spec mode. The sales guy tossed in the super suction-cup window mount so I set it rather low on the glass to avoid ‘follow the leader’ folks. On my late model Passat, the mount w/Redline looks very clean. One simple press of the release button and the unit slides off for storage while I grabbed a bite to eat.

Yes, I do live in a predominantly flat area that extends about 170+ miles east, west and north. Also south but that’s Mexico and you couldn’t pay me enough to drive down there! Anyway, I guess this is why others’ recommended the Redline when I’ve made previous forum inquiries.

I'm looking forward to my trip to Phoenix next week to really get a feel for how it performs out on the open flatness. The Arizona DPS is pretty active out there so I will see activity and onward through the city freeway system. Based on the forum database listings, they use K and Ka 'Stalker' with some Laser, although I have yet to see that anywhere except with motor-cops in my piss-ant town of Yuma.

No, I didn't get the 'Escort Live' but I'm hoping they'll still honor the budled discount (that was offered) if I call them back. I didn't plan on an iPhone until later in the year so I didn't add it on the order, but I would save 60-bucks towards the future. Since that would effectively shave a portion off from the first year service, I'm not sure its really a super deal in my circumstance.

Dan

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I am sure they will given you are still within 30 days. They did for me

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I quickly became familiar with 24.160~210 store door openers and my own 33.7xx garage door opener freqs.

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33.7xx is almost assuredly your satellite dish, not your garage door opener.

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

Interference tends to show it's head mostly with delayed alerts or missed alerts on our detectors. This is due to our filtering which tries to eliminate alerts from other detectors' LO emissions (the primary source of this interference). Only extreme interference will cause false alerts on our detectors. There is independent testing data showing these effects (mostly effecting Ka) even on custom installed systems.

The emissions emit mainly from the horn opening/s so, depending on reflections in front of the horn (road signs, cars ahead of you, etc) the effects will vary. Reducing these emissions from the horn/s using obstructions like eccosorb will also limit detection because you will have to block the horn. Our patented M3 antenna is the only detector design that limits emissions while not effecting performance. It's not due the magnesium case, it's the inherent design of the M3.

Some are aware of the interference and are fine living with it in order to use multiple detectors. I only stress interference when people report their test findings while using multiple detectors.

If you want to know just how much LO emissions a detector is emitting then test them with a RDD such as a Spectre as GoL did years ago (bottom of page). They also have a page dedicated to why you shouldn't run two detectors together here.

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X2. Maybe someday there will a chart showing the popular RDs together and how they effect each other in -db. I agree, it is what is out front (signs, rears of autos, etc.) freqs that are reflected back to each RD that will null them down. If the RD users of the V1 and Redline together would note what is out front when they get alarms, there maybe a pattern seen to why each RD does not repeat itself in beating the other RD...