Well at least plug in the ZR3's for extra protection you are severely hurting your jammer performance with that mounting spot....PTs on the every gun beside the LTI's
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I agree with Rob, it's relatively easy to jam the LTi Marksman and Ultralyte. However, if you encounter, a Truspeed, Stalker, or Pro3, you may be in for a rude awakening...
I would reinstall the front heads vertical and unobstructed. Your front performance will be optimum once you do this.
REF: http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ve-us-all.html
^ Look at my post, on page 2, #17. :)
Now wait a sec - dj just posted that the Marksman is a great gun, and remember on at least a dozen runs I got *nothing*, even when I parked the car and shot it from 5 feet repeatedly.
So which is it? 20/20 good or bad?
After these results, I find it very hard to believe that someone is going to get me from over 500' with anything before I can slow down, especially since I don't go 30-40 over.
Besides, 95% of my driving is done in-state, and the LTIs are what is here right now. I chose the correct test gun for the environment.
Anyone in the midwest care to prove they can get PT? I'll gladly buy the steak if I lose. (OK I'll gladly buy the steak after I remount the heads and win if that happens) In any case, the ZR3 controller with new front ZR4 heads is already installed in another vehicle.
The Marksman and Ultralyte are both great guns. However, they are easily jammed by laser diode type jammers. I've had my heads obstructed behind very thin mesh on my car for over a year. I've tested ALOT with the Ultralyte and it was 99% of the time JTG. I've tested with the Marksman and it was 100% JTG. I've tested with the Laser Atlanta and that was 90% JTG, the Stalker LZ1 v1 and v2 lit my @ss up from 700 ft to the gun, and the Pro Laser 3 Pwn3d my @ss from >1000ft. Center mass was JTG on ALL runs but my headlights were annihilated.
I pulled the heads out and mounted them in front of the mesh for the North East laser day in Ma and the results were MUCH better. Check out the "Independent Laser Test Archive" sticky in the laser jammers forum for a link to all the CT and Ma testing days. You will see pictures, videos, and results for each of the events. Pay particular attention to the difference between my results and "hockey005's" results. <-- That is why you should not mount the heads behind the mesh.
Jamming 1 gun should not be the end all to your testing. You can't arrive at the conclusion that you are immune to lidar or protected from all lidar threats without first testing with all the guns. The only member's who have successfully been able to completely cloak their vehicles are LI owners with "unobstructed" installs.
x2...and since the LI heads are black and ur grille is black it rele will not be noticable...i mean if ur gonna spend like $700 plus installation on a jammer i think u will want it to be performing its best..look at my install...
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...red-v1-li.html
you cant even really see the heads
Hey - I agree in theory that I should test with every gun, however, I really have no way of acquiring all the guns to do said testing.
I basically had to choose one gun, so I chose the one being used around here. Any different install is going to require drilling at best, cutting into the grille at worst. The heads have nowhere to be anchored in the grille except for thin plastic. There's a point where countermeasures aren't worth holes in the car - especially one that is rare and won't see lots of replacement parts available.
Duhtroll, you don't have to drill anything. Get creative with 3M tape and ABS plastic and you'll have a secure vertical install as sturdy and maybe even more sturdy than your current horizontal install. Honestly, some cop somewhere, using some other gun (TruSpeed, Laser Atlanta) is going to ruin your day.
Help out with the ABS plastic - what is it, where to get, what to use it for, etc..
The grille bars are thin - like 3/8 inch and I don't trust them to be sturdy. The jammer heads are also 1mm too wide to realistically fit between them. The bars "bend" so I have placed the heads in between the slats before just to see what it would look like, but I am certain eventually the bars would break from the constant bending.
So, I am left with only the horizontal base behind the grille where the heads are sitting now (see grille pic - last one in first post in this thread). I could stand the heads on end but I have nothing to secure them to at the top. I thought of (and purchased) two small "L" brackets and screws for the bottom ends of the heads and I could drill two small holes in the surface behind the grille. That end would be secure. The top would be floating in space.
And either way, the heads are still behind the grille. From a dead on front shot, fine, but from any angle the bars will impede no matter what I do.
When I get home I will try to get some pics of the area to show what I mean. I can't fathom how it will work without drilling or cutting.
I just watched this again -- the size of the video is misleading since the camera had to be placed behind the eyepiece of the marksman and I had to use the zoom to get it to focus. The distance you are talking about is less than 100 feet - probably even less than 50'. If I don't slow by then, I can't count on the LI to save me.