Give me some reasons why I should pick an M47 over an LI

[ty20404]

I've got a 99 328is. Not a very big car. I've got ZR4s now but I know they wont cover me every time. I've got Brackets to place the front units just below and in front of my High Beams. The LI Quad is too expensive but I WILL spend the money IF I decide that the M47 is not adequate enough. Give me some reasons why an M47 will be more than sufficient for my vehicle, and please no crap (I know I'm posting in the blinder forum so please, legitimate reasons).

[djrams80]

To save money. That's it. There are no other legitimate reasons.

[Stealth Stalker]

One word: BMW. They are harder than heck to protect on the front end because of the limited mounting options. You need all the help you can get.

Your willingness to mount them in front of the high beams will be a big plus, and may well mean that a Blinder will do just fine on the front. The rear will need an LI for consistent performance though.

[Blinder Dude]

The M-47 will give you the protection you need. Also help your wallet, but it's not about the money it's about protection.
Giving you the time to pass the speed trap without going home with a ticket.
I have just finished the testing at SML, not only Carl's testing, but on the other side of the road using every gun known to man.
Testing was done on a white Mustang, silver 4runner and a white KIA.
The M-27/47 results were the best I have seen in 11 years.
Rear shots were JFG, that I have never seen before!
The front shots, Blinder always preforms well, not 100%, but who is?
No speeds given outside of 81 feet on the 4runner, the KIA and Mustang were JTG. I don't like the JTG thing because the whole industry is a very fine line of illegality. We don't want these products to become illegal, like in other parts of the world.
I will agree the BMW is a hard install, but not impossible.
We have installed in the grill or below the bumper with outstanding results, it just depends how custom you want your install.
I'm testing on a new F-150 now, the results are outstanding, video to follow.
Give me some time they will be up soon.

[snoopyc4]

No speeds given outside of 81 feet on the 4runner, the KIA and Mustang were JTG. I don't like the JTG thing because the whole industry is a very fine line of illegality. We don't want these products to become illegal, like in other parts of the world.

No one here likes the act of JTG but JTG performance is necessary if one wants to survive all real world encounters. If a jammer consistently gives PT around 100 feet, how is the jammer user going to survive a 100 ft or less lidar shot (LEO hiding behind a hill for instance)?

[BlinderGuy]

I see results here from the forum that show not even LI is JTG all the time. So why is it that they seem to fade very quickly. But a P/T on the Blinder gets beat to hell. No jammer ever tested on this forum, EVER results in 100% JTG every time. And this is not bias because as everyone knows I have run a LI and they are not 100% fool proof all the time. Every jammer gives P/T from time to time whether it is the install, or not having enough heads. I see Blinder get a lot of JTG also. They are just not talked about on the forum. Or I should say that certain people do not feel the need to speak unless the Blinder does not perform well then we turn it into a 7 page post on how Blinder sucks and they should buy a LI.Why not focus on helping the person tune the set-up instead of always just jumping right to "buy an LI" The ones who get good results don't speak out because of fear of being ridiculed for not owning a LI.
This also goes for the Zr4 also. Those owners are treated the same way.

Example. Check these P/Ts out! Both Blinder and LI had a bad day!
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...5-23-10-a.html

Here is a Happy BMW owner with a Blinder M27.

New Blinder M27 - Cayuga Lake

[happya$$]

I am very happy with my LI's and M27's. They have served me VERY well thus far. Many JTG's from both. In fact a month ago I shot a green Jetta that had an M27 installed and it JTGed me 5 consequitive times with a Pro Laser 2. He also had Veil G4.

[Won Hunglo]

They both work well enough in the real world that it comes down to installation. Installation makes all the difference. Each will get owned if the install is poor, but LI gives a little more room for error. The Blinder is cheaper, but the LI has more features and has a smaller head. With the Blinder, you have no idea what gun shot you. LI tells you what gun it is. Blinder heads have been pron to water/freeze damage for me, losing 4 heads in the past 9 years. (2 M-10 & 2 M-40 heads. Granted, I am not a person who has to have the latest & greatest every year so I keep my toys until they break so breakage over time is expected. My 2005 M-40 continues to work fine with 2 replacement heads and 2 original heads, jamming everything on the market today. The next bad head will total the system due to age wear and tear and new emerging threats now coming on the market. (Laser Ally)

In the end:


Blinder = Cheaper and basic laser protection.
LI = A little more money with extra bells & whistles and more jamming power.

Warranty is a wash at 2 years & both have very good customer support.

[aa2033]

both are excellent products, but the main factor in saving yourself is proper installation. I personally own both Blinder m27 and LI 8.x and i love them both.

[djrams80]

I see results here from the forum that show not even LI is JTG all the time. So why is it that they seem to fade very quickly. But a P/T on the Blinder gets beat to hell. No jammer ever tested on this forum, EVER results in 100% JTG every time. And this is not bias because as everyone knows I have run a LI and they are not 100% fool proof all the time. Every jammer gives P/T from time to time whether it is the install, or not having enough heads. I see Blinder get a lot of JTG also. They are just not talked about on the forum. Or I should say that certain people do not feel the need to speak unless the Blinder does not perform well then we turn it into a 7 page post on how Blinder sucks and they should buy a LI.Why not focus on helping the person tune the set-up instead of always just jumping right to "buy an LI" The ones who get good results don't speak out because of fear of being ridiculed for not owning a LI.

You're right that there are occasionally PTs against LIs, but the rate is much, much lower than against Blinders. That's just the truth. When I get a PT against an LI, it surprises me. When I get JTG against a Blinder, that surprises me. There's a big difference between those two concepts.

When Blinder Dude tries to come on here and tell us that the Blinders are as good as LIs, I'm gonna respond to that, because it's just not true.