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    Default Alternative parking lot designs?

    It has recently become clear to me that most parking lots are pretty poorly designed. They mostly have have a design like this:



    The brown represents the building, light gray is the sidewalk, dark gray is pavement, and the road at the top is whatever main road connects to the parking lot.

    There are two main problems with this design, both related to the vehicle lane that runs between the building and the parking spots. The first is that vehicles and pedestrians are forced to mix. The space in front of the building becomes an area of constant, frustrating conflict between pedestrians leaving and entering the building, drivers attempting to go straight through, drivers making turns, and drivers pulling out. While speeds may be low so that injury accidents and deaths aren't too much of a problem, I can't believe it's the most pleasant and efficient way to get people in and out.

    The second problem is that the apparently easy access to "good" spots close to the building just exacerbates the congestion. The majority of drivers are tempted to use the lot entrance closest to the building and contribute to the mess. The high concentration of parked vehicles closer to the building also makes it more difficult to safely enter and exit a parking spot.

    This is one way that I propose parking lots could be improved:


    Please forgive me for adding a row, I needed it to make the design work.

    Essentially, my intention was to make it inconvenient for vehicles to drive straight through beside the building and only allow them to turn into the next row.

    My initial plan actually eliminated the first lot entrance and completely blocked vehicles driving straight, but then I remembered that there has to be a fire lane so I had to find a way to allow at least one vehicle width of drivable space.

    The first thing I did was to take two parking spots from every other row and move them to the adjacent row. This results in no loss of parking spots and gives vehicles more room to turn. Then I extended the sidewalk to meet the extended rows and added green lines between the parking spots to represent some sort of barrier that prevents vehicles from crossing. The sidewalk should be only slightly raised and ramp down to the parking lot so that emergency vehicles can use it, but normal drivers would be discouraged. The lot entrance closest to the building should be posted for emergency vehicle use only so that drivers could only enter the lot from the rear.

    I hope that this design would have a few positive effects. First, with the knowledge that once they go down a row they're pretty much committed to it, drivers should be encouraged to take whatever spots are available instead of driving a great distance around the lot to save a short distance walking. This should reduce congestion and create a more even spacing of parked vehicles. The greatest benefit would be the improved environment in front of the store. There would be far fewer conflicts between pedestrians and vehicles, which should be safer and create a more pleasant experience for all guests. After all, these days virtually all of them have to both drive to the building and walk into it.

    This almost seems like too good of an idea to not have been considered before, so I'd like to know what you think. I'm not professionally or academically responsible for any of this so it's basically just a thought experiment because I'm bored. The biggest issue I can see is that it would encourage drivers to cut across rows of parking spots. That could be prevented with suitable barriers, but they would raise costs and impair snow removal.

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    I also just had this idea. It rotates the normal configuration of parking spots 90 degrees and adds a conspicuous pedestrian walkway in the middle. Drivers can still drive in front of the building, but they don't conflict with traffic exiting the rows and theoretically pedestrians should be channeled to one crosswalk (or more, if the lot is large), but we all know how well current crosswalks are obeyed... At least if they had to cross a grassy island they'd be more likely to realize they were doing something wrong.

    Actually, after drawing this up it occurred to me that a local mall uses this design and it works pretty well, except for their one way lanes that are frequently ignored.

    Last edited by supercowpowers; 09-06-2011 at 09:46 PM.

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    With that kind of creative thinking, you're sure to come up with some great ideas.

    However I'm going to play the devil's advocate.
    Your new design will have cars coming from both directions in the center row closest to the store creating a conundrum of old people and dumb people going in opposite directions trying to pass each other on the turn. I know it adds a few spaces but the confusion it will create for old and dumb people won't be worth the trouble.
    Remember most drivers are dumb. You have to keep things simple for folks today.

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    I see in your second post that you are on to something less confusing.

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    So you're concerned about vehicles coming from opposite directions not being able to negotiate the turns simultaneously? I was worried about that too. The simplest thing to do is probably to paint yellow lines like a normal roadway so drivers know they shouldn't cut the corner or swing wide. I don't know what to do about big vehicles like pickups with trailers or RV's, but they would already have problems with most lots.

    Keep in mind that the ends of the short rows would probably have grassy islands to protect the cars so you could see through the turn to the other side.

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    Very interesting concepts.

    Keep in mind having room for emergency vehicles to access the front of the building and maneuver as needed. In the event of a significant incident, fire, EMS, and LE will likely not all arrive at once, and may have to park at haphazard angles, thereby making access for later-arriving vehicles more difficult.

    My $.02 from working patrol for seven years and seeing a few clusterpucks caused by civilians parking in odd places near buildings that became emergency scenes.

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    I like your first lot better. Mainly because it prevents cars from driving in front of the building.

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    Worst parking lot I've ever been to: Google Maps

    Everyone uses the Chambers Bridge Road entrance to come into the lot, and it gets jammed up and backed up because the constant flow of people in the ShopRite (easily the busiest store in the lot).

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    Interesting ideas. Many state laws (mine included), there needs to be fire lanes in front of the building which are usually two lanes wide. I like the dedicated pedestrian lanes. We have many of designs are my local grocery store and Target.

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    Default Re: Alternative parking lot designs?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Funk View Post
    Many state laws (mine included), there needs to be fire lanes in front of the building which are usually two lanes wide.
    That's what I was afraid of. Forcing all pedestrians to cross the busiest vehicle path is such a horrible idea that there had to be a good reason for it... It seems like the conventional design is the cheapest way to build a legal parking lot with the most possible spaces. You just have to pave a huge area and paint some lines, no need to use any extra dividers or anything.

    Oh well, I can dream about better parking lots just like I can dream about roundabouts and higher speed limits; they'll all probably never happen.

 

 

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