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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth 795
    Yes the 6.1's smartcord are dimmer than the rev 5s...I had both and that I noticed as well ..The guys on here gave me crap for it because I made a big stink on how much chattier the rev5 is than the 6.1...My cord light makes my car look like a dance club..
    cya
    haha to funny. the rev5 is more chatty because it's field of view is better than the 6.1's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX
    Quote Originally Posted by OzarkaWater
    2). How accurate is the expert meter?
    I think I read somewhere about it double bogeying when there's only one radar source. I've put it in expert meter more recently and notice sometimes it'll show two K sources and then one drops out all of a sudden. This happens sometimes at shopping centers. It was kind of cool though to see it working though. I was at Office Depot today and there was a parked LEO who left her car on with constant K band running. The expert meter showed 1 strong K band source from the cop and a weak K source coming from the Office Depot doors. Thought that was pretty cool.
    This is a problem with any of the detectors capable of simultaneously showing multiple incomings.

    Even with the excellent combination of strength-meter, Bogey-Count, the arrows, and its awesome set of programming parameters, proper use of the V1 *still* requires good end-user interpretation/operation.

    The x50's ExpertMeter is a step down from the situational-awareness offered by the V1's comprehensive presentation, as such, you should work to be extra diligent in thinking about its presentations.

    Typically, I've found the ExpertMeter to have worked as-advertised. However, signal "ghosting" as well as alert "merging" are still very much very real possibilities, and the risks associated with the latter, particularly in terms of enforcement situations, is significant, and should be kept-in-mind when, for example, you approach a "double underpass" or other such areas where multiple enforcement vehicles are capable of setting up a sequential trap (where the x50, depending on the distances separating the incoming signals as well as how far apart they may be in terms of frequency spread, could erroneously interpret it as only one threat).

    Ozark, I noticed you mentioned UT here in Austin. Texas troopers around here run the Stalker DSR. The combination of the front and rear antennae of this radar will produce 2 Ka signals on the expert mode display from a seemingly single source (i.e. the trooper vehicle).

    http://www.stalkerradar.com/law_dsr.shtml

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    HighVoltage thanks for the info. I been messing around with the display on the X50 as of lately and have had it on standard, spec, and exp mode. I personally like expert mode and have used the X50 most in this mode but I'm always to curious what kind of Ka alerts I get since there are the 3 frequencies, 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5.

    I'd rather have a chatty detector that actually works than have the Rev 6.1. I'm happy I was persuaded by members on this board to buy a Rev 5 X50, even though it was used.

    One question dealing with the expert meter. Would you say the V1 bogey counter is more accurate than the expert meter? I've seen videos where the counter rises and all of sudden you'll see an arrow forward and backward alerting to a source in front and a source in the back. Is there any chance the V1 would do any merging or signal ghosting or is the V1's bogey counter better than the expert meter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzarkaWater
    HighVoltage thanks for the info. I been messing around with the display on the X50 as of lately and have had it on standard, spec, and exp mode. I personally like expert mode and have used the X50 most in this mode but I'm always to curious what kind of Ka alerts I get since there are the 3 frequencies, 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5.

    I'd rather have a chatty detector that actually works than have the Rev 6.1. I'm happy I was persuaded by members on this board to buy a Rev 5 X50, even though it was used.

    One question dealing with the expert meter. Would you say the V1 bogey counter is more accurate than the expert meter? I've seen videos where the counter rises and all of sudden you'll see an arrow forward and backward alerting to a source in front and a source in the back. Is there any chance the V1 would do any merging or signal ghosting or is the V1's bogey counter better than the expert meter?
    I dont believe there's a clear winner here. The V1 is capable of reporting more sources than the X50 however it is a bit easier with the X50 to see how many of each type are in the area.

    In my experience once you exceed 2 sources with either detector it becomes a bit of an issue to try to locate all of them. Even the V1s arrows dont necessarily lend any additional help especially in a crowded city with large structures. In my experience with the V1, the arrows tend to show their true usefulness out on open highways and become less helpful as you get into more heavily populated areas and in some instances can actually mislead you. Any detector will experience merging or signal ghosting. Theres just no getting around this.


    Whether you have a X50 or V1 you are going to slow down so both detectors have essentially accomplished their job in this respect.

    BTW, look out for the "stealth" troopers running Stalker DSR in Austin especially around the Mopac/183 exchange.

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    ^ Very well said regarding "multiple threat indications" and interpretation/use.

    I couldn't agree more.

    And +1 also on the Stalker DSR. I've seen this behavior as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thestaton
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth 795
    Yes the 6.1's smartcord are dimmer than the rev 5s...I had both and that I noticed as well ..The guys on here gave me crap for it because I made a big stink on how much chattier the rev5 is than the 6.1...My cord light makes my car look like a dance club..
    cya
    haha to funny. the rev5 is more chatty because it's field of view is better than the 6.1's.
    10-4 on that, had the 6.1 and was kinda upset about the distance..untill I got the rev 5..i was like

 

 

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