9500IX Question

[tshrimp]

I currently have a Bel RX65 and the Expert Meter shows muntiple radar if they are different signals and show a number next to it to indicate strength. It does not show muntiple signals if it is the same band however.

From what I see in the manual the 9500ix does shows muntiple boggies.

My 1st question is....is this correct? If there are 2 Ka band signals will it show both.

My 2nd question is .... If I keep the 9500ix on the Expert Meter at all times like I do my RX65 how does it show the signal strength? From the pics in the manual it looks like just a verticle line that has about 7-10 very small pixels. If that is the case does it always show this way, or only when muntiple signals are detected. In other words does it show Ka with the standard bar graph when there is only one signal so the signal horizontal strength meter can be better displayed and then switch to the little mini verticle signal. Or is it ALWAYS the mini veriticle signal?

My 3rd and final question.....Also is it worth upgrading from an RX65 to a 9500ix? I know that they both are M4 detectors, but didn't know if tweeking over the years has imporved performance.


Thanks in advance for the help.

[EscortRadar]

1) Yes, it will show multiple signals of the same band simultaneously unlike Beltronics detectors.

2) When in Expert meter mode it will always show the signal strength with vertical bars. It will not show the standard horizontal bar graph when only one signal is shown.

3) Detection performance is about the same between the RX65 and 9500ix but that is the only similarity. The 9500ix's inclusion of GPS gives it many more features than a normal non-GPS detector. These include: TrueLock and AutoLearn to automatically identify and eliminate almost all false alerts (a huge feature), our web updatable Defender database of all red light and speed cameras in North America along with many popular speed traps, speed adjusted sensitivity, speed alert (shows vehicle speed when alerting), ability to mark your own locations under 4 different categories, and more.

Let me know if you have any other questions about our products

[larryf]

Yes, it shows multiples.

I don't use the signal strength but just go off the sounds.

[brasstownbald]

tshrimp,

Here is a link to the 9500ix User Guide which will show you pictures of the display for multiple signals as well as give you more information
http://www.radarbusters.com/images/pdf/ESO020.pdf

You should know that when you mark your own locations with the 9500ix, you cannot choose the alert distance and still have the appropriate voice alert..

For example, when you set your new marked location to RedlightCamera, it will automatically be assigned an alert distance of 250ft. Escort claims the alert will be issued 250' or 10 seconds in advance but at even 45 mph, that's 66ft per second so you would cover 250ft in about 4 seconds...about 3 seconds at 55mph. Given it is hard to humanly react to anything in less than one second, it becomes obvious how little warning 250ft is. Assuming the light ahead is currently green but aabout to go yellow, you don't want to know at the last second that the intersection you are now 20ft away from crossing has a redlight camera and it is too late to slow down.......FLASH !

Personally, I have found this too short a distance to have time to react even at relatively slow speeds of 45 - 50 mph.

Others may not feel this way, but I certainly do. If I were a heavy footed driver, I don't see how a 250ft warning would give me time to be aware of the redlight camera I was approaching. Granted, NOT running a redlight normally does not require a radar detector nor is being alerted per se a priority over staying alert when driving. But I'm speaking strictly of the technicality of one of the features of the 9500ix.

Personally I like the 9500ix but I agree with others that Escort fell just a little short of making it as superb a detector as it could have been with only a few minor changes..

I also find the Garmin Nuvi to be exponentially superior to the 9500ix in terms of Redlight Cameras, Speed Cameras and Enforcement point alerts due to immense flexibility with customizing the database. I build my Nuvi database with info from numerous sources such as Trapster High Quality verified locations, POI-Factory and PhotoEnforced to name a few. From those I can set alerts to any distance I choose, and any alert style I choose based on my own confidence in the data and personal tastes.

The false signal lockout feature on the 9500ix is nice and I get VERY few false alerts as advertised. Range on the highway with Ka band has been better than expected and I often get 2+ miles of warning which is plenty to slow down if necessary. I have not achieved this alert distance with other bands for some reason.

Finally, you should be aware that unless you purchase your 9500ix from Escort or an authorized dealer, you will not be eligible to purchase an extended warranty (or so I have read).

Since I'm not typically prone to bust the PSL by more than 5-10mph, the 9500ix was probably a great choice.

For those with a heavy pedal foot and a need for speed, I can see why they want the absolute highest sensitivity available. I also believe most people on this forum with a heavy foot are safer drivers overall than those off this forum simply because they take driving seriously. Driving fast does not make one inherently an unsafe driver IMO. The Autobahn would be my example.

Long post....bored....forgive me.

[voyager7]

tshrimp,

You should know that when you mark your own locations with the 9500ix, you cannot choose the alert distance and still have the appropriate voice alert..

For example, when you set your new marked location to Red light Camera, it will automatically be assigned an alert distance of 250ft.

250' or 10 sec what ever is greater (depending on your speed).

[brasstownbald]

250' or 10 sec what ever is greater (depending on your speed).

At 45mph I'm nearly IN the intersection before it alerts me.

Is this just my particular 9500ix?

[tshrimp]

250' or 10 sec what ever is greater (depending on your speed).

At 45mph I'm nearly IN the intersection before it alerts me.

Is this just my particular 9500ix?

Mine seems to do just fine. In town it alerts me at 300ft (30-40MPH) and then counts down 200, 100, and then states "you have reached your marked location" when I get to the light. There is also one in a 60 MPH area and it alerts earlier. Got a verbal today and looked at the screen to see 500ft and then when I got to the intersection I got the verbal that I had reached my marked location. So seems good. I wouldn't mind a little earlier notice when in town, but I could see where too much notice might put you at an earlier light if you have close streets.

Have you tried a Data Base or Device reset to see if that might help. Just a thought.

[brasstownbald]

thx tshrimp.

I was beginning to think it was just my unit but another 9500ix owner has stated his does the same thing.

I really think if you had my unit, you'd be a bit unhappy.

Honestly by the time it alerts me to a marked redlight location I am THERE. No room for much of anything.

But here's the secret....(I think). Just erase the marked location and next time through that intersection in that direction, set it about 200ft farther back from the intersection. I had been setting it AT the intersection.

Unless I do it this way, I will not get marked location alerts until I am maybe .5 seconds from being IN the intersection.

I have a hunch my unit is not calculating or considering my speed when making marked location announcements....just distance.

Now that I've come to that suspicion, I intend to devise tests to prove or disprove it. If it turns out to be the case, i will have a factory defective unit less than 6 months old.

Great.

Before I jump the gun, are there any settings I could have set that would defeat the speed calculation for marked locations?

Seriously, I'm getting marked location alerts WAYYYYYYY too late.

[tshrimp]

tshrimp,

Here is a link to the 9500ix User Guide which will show you pictures of the display for multiple signals as well as give you more information
http://www.radarbusters.com/images/pdf/ESO020.pdf

You should know that when you mark your own locations with the 9500ix, you cannot choose the alert distance and still have the appropriate voice alert..

For example, when you set your new marked location to RedlightCamera, it will automatically be assigned an alert distance of 250ft. Escort claims the alert will be issued 250' or 10 seconds in advance but at even 45 mph, that's 66ft per second so you would cover 250ft in about 4 seconds...about 3 seconds at 55mph. Given it is hard to humanly react to anything in less than one second, it becomes obvious how little warning 250ft is. Assuming the light ahead is currently green but aabout to go yellow, you don't want to know at the last second that the intersection you are now 20ft away from crossing has a redlight camera and it is too late to slow down.......FLASH !

Personally, I have found this too short a distance to have time to react even at relatively slow speeds of 45 - 50 mph.

Others may not feel this way, but I certainly do. If I were a heavy footed driver, I don't see how a 250ft warning would give me time to be aware of the redlight camera I was approaching. Granted, NOT running a redlight normally does not require a radar detector nor is being alerted per se a priority over staying alert when driving. But I'm speaking strictly of the technicality of one of the features of the 9500ix.

Personally I like the 9500ix but I agree with others that Escort fell just a little short of making it as superb a detector as it could have been with only a few minor changes..

I also find the Garmin Nuvi to be exponentially superior to the 9500ix in terms of Redlight Cameras, Speed Cameras and Enforcement point alerts due to immense flexibility with customizing the database. I build my Nuvi database with info from numerous sources such as Trapster High Quality verified locations, POI-Factory and PhotoEnforced to name a few. From those I can set alerts to any distance I choose, and any alert style I choose based on my own confidence in the data and personal tastes.

The false signal lockout feature on the 9500ix is nice and I get VERY few false alerts as advertised. Range on the highway with Ka band has been better than expected and I often get 2+ miles of warning which is plenty to slow down if necessary. I have not achieved this alert distance with other bands for some reason.

Finally, you should be aware that unless you purchase your 9500ix from Escort or an authorized dealer, you will not be eligible to purchase an extended warranty (or so I have read).

Since I'm not typically prone to bust the PSL by more than 5-10mph, the 9500ix was probably a great choice.

For those with a heavy pedal foot and a need for speed, I can see why they want the absolute highest sensitivity available. I also believe most people on this forum with a heavy foot are safer drivers overall than those off this forum simply because they take driving seriously. Driving fast does not make one inherently an unsafe driver IMO. The Autobahn would be my example.

Long post....bored....forgive me.

Great post. Thanks for the information. I did end getting the 9500ix. It was between that and the V1, and after researching felt the 9500ix fit my driving habits better.

I have only had it for a week, so still getting use to it. I was surprised to see the ramp up issue people were talking about as my RX65 has great ramp up so assumed it was over blown. I can live with it, but the ramp up on my RX65 was better.

Sill in my 30 day test period.

[tshrimp]

thx tshrimp.

I was beginning to think it was just my unit but another 9500ix owner has stated his does the same thing.

I really think if you had my unit, you'd be a bit unhappy.

Honestly by the time it alerts me to a marked redlight location I am THERE. No room for much of anything.

But here's the secret....(I think). Just erase the marked location and next time through that intersection in that direction, set it about 200ft farther back from the intersection. I had been setting it AT the intersection.

Unless I do it this way, I will not get marked location alerts until I am maybe .5 seconds from being IN the intersection.

I have a hunch my unit is not calculating or considering my speed when making marked location announcements....just distance.

Now that I've come to that suspicion, I intend to devise tests to prove or disprove it. If it turns out to be the case, i will have a factory defective unit less than 6 months old.

Great.

I didn't realize you were marking it manually. The results I gave you were for the RL Cameras already in the Database.

I did mark a speed trap and it alerts you at 1500 ft If I remember right. Next day it alerted me and I turned on the next street. Then noticed the arrow was pointing the direction of the trap. I was pleasantly surprised.