Veil Guy Review: Laser Diode Jammers

[AirMoore]

What is interesting is that VG posted this knowing full-well that we would read this and many members would call him out on it...

Obviously something is going on here... because I couldn't even finish 1/4 of it before I had to stop since it is full off slight-of-hand pish-posh. VG...


Wonder if he will drop in here...

[happya$$]

Who is Veil Guy

[srtga]

Well, the guy blogs about RD's. You have to admit that there hasn't been a lot going in the RD community so he has to have SOMETHING to write about...

Nice to have something to read but most of it didn't make a lot of sense

[threeputter]

It appears that Veilguy is accusing Radar Roy of using juiced LI units. Anyone heard any rumors to substantiate these claims?

[threeputter]

I noticed that Radar Roy sells Veil on his site. Veil Guy must not be very smart...

[srtga]

Oh, this explains it:

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[Solion]

I don't think that is the case so much as it seems to being uninformed. he has at least been kind enough to post my comments. However he has not responded to the second one yet. The offer stands to come up with lab testing criteria to prove
the value of laser diode jamming.

As for Radar Roy. I would really love to chat with him. I don't know his full background in engineering but it would be nice to compare notes on several topics in both RADAR and LIDAR.

But here is where I would like to make my statement about LIDAR jammers. To me, the perfect lidar jammer is the following.

ZR4 detection circuits/components
Laser diode(s)
Blinders lookup tables and Algorithms
Brute force operational mode
Laser Tamer fiber optic system to hide /expand detection of all of it.

warming up the soldering iron now

[ahmadr]

The fact that these other products are considerably less expensive at doing the very same job is a nice bonus, especially when one considers our tough economic times.

LOL@ " the fact"

The FACT is that:

1. They do NOT do the very same job. Anyone with a laser gun and an ounce of integrity will tell you that. To his credit, even Blinder Guy will tell you that.

2. They are NOT considerably less expensive, by any stretch of the definition. Let's compare with Radarbusters.com prices:

Blinder M-27 - $439.98
Escort ZR4 - $449.95
Laser Interceptor Dual - $599.95

That's $150 dollars difference, which is "considerably less" than the ticket you'd get otherwise. And to get comparable performance, you'd have to spend $230 dollars MORE than the LI to get a Blinder M-47 and, wait for it... a can of Veil. But of course, The Veil Guy has no financial interest in this issue.

I am the one who has no financial interest in any of this. Heck, I'm on a fixed income. Nothing would make me happier than a cheaper jammer that would do "the very same job". But the FACT is that I've tried them all, and none of them even come close to the LI.

There's your "fact".

There is no doubt that there is a big difference between a ZR4 and a Blinder, and between a Blinder and an LI.

But, let us not forget that, e.g. erickonphoenix has/had as more encounters in a year than most of us in our lifetimes. He used a ZR3, and had many years of jammer-failure free driving on his Corvette. So, for many / most of us, ZR3s may be sufficient.

..."legal-to-use" LED devices...

Hypocrisy? I don't know how legal or illegal LED / LD devices are (same for speeding), but let us not forget that a Veil treatment may (& I'm guessing it often does) cause a headlight to no longer meet legal requirements (as specified in FMVSS 108), depending on how borderline the headlight is in the first place.

Indeed, there are DOT requirements for headlights to produce a legal beam (color, intensity and pattern). Veil reduces light output, and (especially the older generation) changes the beam pattern.

Unless, of course, the manufacturer or resellers of Veil would claim that a headlight treated with Veil satisfies DOT / FMVSS 108 requirements, and would therefore be legal

IMHO, while I'd really like to use Veil, it changes the light output too much for my taste, and I feel it's too dangerous to use on my headlights.

[djrams80]

But, let us not forget that, e.g. erickonphoenix has/had as more encounters in a year than most of us in our lifetimes. He used a ZR3, and had many years of jammer-failure free driving on his Corvette. So, for many / most of us, ZR3s may be sufficient.

You cannot correlate erickonphoenix's relative success to the vast majority of the members here. He drove a Vette, which has a very low lidar profile to begin with and he was up against mostly PLIIIs. Try protecting my Escape with some ZR4s.

[ahmadr]

But, let us not forget that, e.g. erickonphoenix has/had as more encounters in a year than most of us in our lifetimes. He used a ZR3, and had many years of jammer-failure free driving on his Corvette. So, for many / some of us, ZR3s may be sufficient.

You cannot correlate erickonphoenix's relative success to the vast majority of the members here. He drove a Vette, which has a very low lidar profile to begin with and he was up against mostly PLIIIs. Try protecting my Escape with some ZR4s.

Does that make you happy now?

You didn't have many real-life failures on your Mustang either. I'm using a single head LI, and havn't had a real-life failure (out of the handful of encounters I've had). Yet, it is possible to get a short distance PT on it

That said, believe it or not, just my V1 alone would have saved me in ~half of the cases!