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    If this has been asked before sorry. Is this legal on the front plate in Texas ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jem58 View Post
    If this has been asked before sorry. Is this legal on the front plate in Texas ?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Transportation Code

    Sec. 502.409. WRONG, FICTITIOUS, ALTERED, OR OBSCURED LICENSE PLATE. (a) A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or displays on a motor vehicle a number plate or registration insignia that:
    (1) is assigned to a different motor vehicle;
    (2) is assigned to the vehicle under any other motor vehicle law other than by the department;
    (3) is assigned for a registration period other than the registration period in effect;
    (4) is fictitious;
    (5) has blurring or reflective matter that significantly impairs the readability of the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered or the letters or numbers of the license plate number at any time;
    (6) has an attached illuminated device or sticker, decal, emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by law and that interferes with the readability of the letters or numbers of the license plate number or the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered; or
    (7) has a coating, covering, protective material, or other apparatus that:
    (A) distorts angular visibility or detectability;
    (B) alters or obscures one-half or more of the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered; or
    (C) alters or obscures the letters or numbers of the license plate number or the color of the plate.
    (b) Except as provided by Subsection (f), an offense under Subsection (a) is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than $200, unless it is shown at the trial of the offense that the owner knowingly altered or made illegible the letters, numbers, and other identification marks, in which case the offense is a Class B misdemeanor.


    Interestingly enough, this same law may also make it illegal to display your CURRENT license plate after November 1st, 2009 when the Department of Motor Vehicles takes over the Department of Transportation, since the license plate was issued under a different motor vehicle law then the ones of the "department". department is officially defined as "Department of Motor Vehicles" now, not "Department of Transportation". See HB 3097;


    81(R) HB 3097 - Enrolled version - Bill Text


    PART E. REGISTRATION OF VEHICLES
    SECTION 2E.01. Section 502.001, Transportation Code, is

    amended by adding Subdivision (1-a) and amending Subdivision (3) to
    read as follows:
    (1-a)"Board" means the board of the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles.
    (3) "Department" means the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles [-T-r-a-n-s-p-o-r-t-a-t-i-o-n-].

    Note: Transportation is struck out as it has been deleted and no longer in the code. So all references to "department", technically as of September 1st, 2009, now mean the DMV and not TxDot. So right now between September 1st and November 1st TxDot is illegally renewing and issuing titles and registrations. After November 1st when the DMV acturally exists and is up and running, I would assume any plate issued prior to November 1st, 2009 is technically null and void and not renewable. Oh how I love contradictions in the law
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    Default Re: Cr8apl8 ?

    What about NJ, using your correct license number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randypk View Post
    What about NJ, using your correct license number?
    Pretty much every State in the union has a Wrong/Ficticious license plate law. If it's not State issued, it's not to be put on your car. It's pretty much that simple. Some might argue that the acual law I pasted doesn't make it illegal to stick a cr8apl8 on your car.. well okay fine, maybe not -- here's another law for you:

    Sec. 502.404. OPERATION OF VEHICLE WITHOUT LICENSE PLATE OR REGISTRATION INSIGNIA. (a) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a passenger car or commercial motor vehicle that does not display two license plates, at the front and rear of the vehicle, that have been:
    (1) assigned by the department for the period; or
    (2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the department that establishes that the vehicle is registered for the period.
    (b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a passenger car or commercial motor vehicle, other than a vehicle assigned license plates for the registration period, that does not properly display the registration insignia issued by the department that establishes that the license plates have been validated for the period.
    (c) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a road tractor, motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does not display a license plate, attached to the rear of the vehicle, that has been:
    (1) assigned by the department for the period


    It's very simple -- if it's not State issued, it's not legit. Sure go ahead and display it as freedom of speech, you will still have to display your METAL State issued licenses in addition to.

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    So if you use the same numbers and letters that are registered to the car it's ilegal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky225 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jem58 View Post
    If this has been asked before sorry. Is this legal on the front plate in Texas ?
    No.

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    No case has ever held this. Mainly the only cases dealing with this statute have to do with whether partially covering the plate with a frame, so as to obscure "Texas" or "The Lone Star State" or some other portion of the plate constitutes probable cause for pulling over a driver to test him for DWI. In other words, leo's use this statute as a pretext to pull someone over for dwi. Any case involving CR8PL8 would be a case of first impression. Which is good news.
    Last edited by Radar; 09-23-2009 at 11:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jem58 View Post
    So if you use the same numbers and letters that are registered to the car it's ilegal?
    No case has ever held this. The numbers and letters are not fictitious. Likewise, if you are using the same numbers and letters that are registered to the car, they are certainly not "assigned to the vehicle under any other motor vehicle law other than by the [I]department."
    Last edited by Radar; 09-23-2009 at 11:36 AM.

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    Just got my CR8APL8. Looks terrible. Holding it up next to the actual plate, it is a joke. Size of letters is different. No flag on the shuttle. Tracing of background is even off. At least the size of the lettering could match. I'm not sure why they have a style 1 and style 5, because they both seem the same.

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    You must have newer Texas plates. The originals didn't have a flag on the Shuttle, and the silhouette was red instead of tri-colour. The Cr8aplt is true to the original Texas design, except for the number/letter size and the silhouette being raised.

    Remember guys, they're made for movie use, not fooling cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker View Post
    You must have newer Texas plates. The originals didn't have a flag on the Shuttle, and the silhouette was red instead of tri-colour. The Cr8aplt is true to the original Texas design, except for the number/letter size and the silhouette being raised.

    Remember guys, they're made for movie use, not fooling cops.
    x2 man, now with the new 7 digit plates cr8apl8 needs to step up their damn game and start doing some flat plate replicas already.

 

 

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