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  1. #11
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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Cips View Post
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    That would be about as useful as a car that goes 360 mph. Cool? Sure. Useful? No.

    I disagree. Maybe if your stuck in LA or some city, it would be useless. But for those of us out in Podunk nowhere, I'd gladly take 13 miles of range (which the Redline won't deliver in the real world with vegitation, curves, hills and humidity)

    In the city it would be useless since you'd see too many falses to make it work. For me, I have one set of automatic door openers within 13 miles of my house. The local HyVee has them. The other grocery stores you still have to open the door yourself. Also we have no issues with Q/T, but I/O is extremely deadly with the lack of traffic. There are many times you'll be the only car on the road and the common method of enforcement around here is moving I/O. So you can see where every bit of range to possibly catch a I/O shot at a car far ahead of you would be very important.
    It sounds more like Trapster would be a benefit to you than 13 miles of range.
    For me Trapster would be more worthless than a Cobra detector. Trapster won't work here for many reasons, the biggest two: 1. Too little traffic, someone ahead has to report the radar, and with a low % of users using trapster anywhere, when you have very few drivers it means there would be next to no reports. 2. Moving I/O would be hard to track even if you were lucky enough to get someone ahead of you using trapster. Two minutes later, who knows where that LEO is?

    Currently the most effective countermeasure is the human eye. With the lack of traffic, one good thing is that you can look very closely at every car you meet, and usually they I/O at point blank range so I tend to slow to slighly over PSL for any car (except obvious non-LE vehicles) and scan to see where I can get to PSL without any obvious sign of it after identifying the car as a LEO (Crown Vic, Impala, Charger, Explorer, others are around but rare such as Trailblazer, F-150, Expedition, Suburban/Tahoe)

    Currently better range is the best you can hope for in an electronic aid. However, I do see light at the end of the tunnel. With GPS tracking devices becoming so much more common, I can see the day coming when you can buy a tracking device for little $ and have it magneticly mount to patrol cars allowing constant tracking even when they aren't radaring.
    Last edited by xcr440sp; 11-11-2009 at 07:38 AM.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Such a device already exists

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    I guess if you always drove on a flat desert road with no other traffic with RD's, and no other interference what-so-ever a 13 mile RD would be useful and great.

    I just came back from a trip where the majority of the roads were long and flat, but there were always other cars on the road (many with RD's), alarms on buildings, radio antennas etc. My RD was going off quite frequently.

    I mean it's pretty cool a detector would detect from that far away, but in the real world in my area it wouldn't be useful. I suspect for the majority of the people buying RD's it wouldn't be useful for them either. Unless they drive across long flat roads without any other interferences.

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker View Post
    That would be about as useful as a car that goes 360 mph. Cool? Sure. Useful? No.
    Hmmm actually I could think of some very good uses for a 360mph car. Police can never catch up, goes too fast for anyone to read the plate, cuts down the commute from Atlanta to Miami to 3 or 4 hours. Key is to use it at times when traffic is light.

    However I can't think of any use of a 13mile range RD. It would lead you to think you have a radar drone if you go several miles without seeing a bogey. Its the ultimate false false.

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Cips View Post
    Moreover, do we need 13 mile detection?

    Well... It depends.

    Out here we have many long, level and straight generally unoccupied roadways that many travel at very great speeds. Much of this roadway exists in Northern Arizona on the Indian Reservations were they love C/O.

    I have known of persons that would do 130 to 150 MPH for long periods of time on those roadways.

    Now if traveling at 2.5 miles per minute is your thing and you are closing on a LEO that is doing a 1.5 miles per minute, you will cross each others path in just over 3 minutes if you start out at a 13 mile distance.

    A 3 minutes heads up is a pretty good warning when you are burning up the highway

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by WRX STiMULi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cips View Post
    Moreover, do we need 13 mile detection?

    Well... It depends.

    Out here we have many long, level and straight generally unoccupied roadways that many travel at very great speeds. Much of this roadway exists in Northern Arizona on the Indian Reservations were they love C/O.

    I have known of persons that would do 130 to 150 MPH for long periods of time on those roadways.

    Now if traveling at 2.5 miles per minute is your thing and you are closing on a LEO that is doing a 1.5 miles per minute, you will cross each others path in just over 3 minutes if you start out at a 13 mile distance.

    A 3 minutes heads up is a pretty good warning when you are burning up the highway

    You're a brave brave man to speed on the res. Those cops are just wicked, had numerous friends get a 1mph over ticket that resulted in a speeding, unsafe operation, reckless driving, and public endangerment charge.

    The road between Tucson and Phoenix when there is light traffic (oh wait there is never is a time with little traffic between Tucson and phoenix ) that sort of range would be super nice, right around Casa SpeedTrap.

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    west texas? yeah good luck getting 13 miles from Tx DPS. 1.3 would be an amazing average

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by EscortRadar View Post
    Such a device already exists
    Do you have a version which I can stick onto a cop car and have it report the cop's position to Trapster in real time?

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by stinger11 View Post
    The road between Tucson and Phoenix when there is light traffic (oh wait there is never is a time with little traffic between Tucson and phoenix ) that sort of range would be super nice, right around Casa SpeedTrap.
    Ah, but I-8 between Casa Grande and Yuma is heavenly!!! No traffic and virtually no cops. I set my personal speed record of 168 MPH along that stretch.

    Geographically, that area is a "basin and range province" - meaning that the road traverses a series of wide, shallow bowls with mountain ranges in between. If you're crossing over one mountain pass and a cop is shooting RADAR on the other "rim" of the bowl, you could probably get a great deal more than 13 miles of range.

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    Default Re: SML test, escort 13mile claim

    Quote Originally Posted by swarga View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EscortRadar View Post
    Such a device already exists
    Do you have a version which I can stick onto a cop car and have it report the cop's position to Trapster in real time?
    Something, ahem, magnetic and weatherproof?

 

 

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