Trade my V3.861 for a V3.812?

[Buford T. Justice]

Phillip559,

I'm quite familiar with how the units work and the issues at hand, but thanks for the review.

I look forward to the manufactures to fix this pop issue although I don't foresee it if everyone just accepts their detector in the disabled mode and not complain.

For me its unacceptable and looking forward to see who the TopDog will be with a RD with POP enabled without signal weakening along with a 16ms detection. Maybe the demand just isn't there.

[Scott]

IMO, too much effort required on the LEO's part to run POP. With all the fish in the pond (cars on road) out there, they can catch more than enough running non POP radar. Leave POP off.

[Buford T. Justice]

IMO, too much effort required on the LEO's part to run POP. With all the fish in the pond (cars on road) out there, they can catch more than enough running non POP radar. Leave POP off.

Like I said in my other post, until I see a reason to keep POP off I will, but for now Im running POP ON with Autoscan and I am very happy with this.

I will report back in a few weeks with my final opinion.

[Stealth 795]

It all comes down to this IMO. Manufacturers are running out of ideas for new models/upgrades. Radar is radar. X,K,Ka have been around for years. Nothing has changed. So in their minds they are like "crap what do we do next? Oh lets add POP protection, SWS, 16 band protection, super stealth vision, super duper antenna, night vision mode, etc)." At the end of the day we want out RD to give us enough time to slow down that is it. Features are supposed to be a secondary thing not a primary thing like manufacturers are TRYING to make us believe. They have hit a road block with trying to improve performance so they use feature implementation as a cover up. This can be proven easily. Lets send a 8500, Bel 985, etc. in to Mike B. and you will see sensitivity numbers similar to V1 1.7 which is over a decade old. The only thing a 1.7 did not do as well on was 35.5gh Ka. Everything else it hangs with the current models.

one word 8500 non x50
c ya

[Stealth 795]

Well lets just hope that these little black boxes inside our cars that measure speed, braking, etc, wont eventually come with a GPS and transmitter allowing all speed and data to be viewed by the local police as you drive into their speedtrap.

Something like the ON-Star system on GM vehicles only allowing the local cops to view your data as you enter their "zone"

It will happen..

Would never pass in the courts. Invasion of privacy

Yeah right... Like my constitution says I'm allowed to own a gun.

rights mean nothing.

Were talking about the u.s. here, we citizens have no say so...if the government wants to sleep in out rooms with us at night they will do so, what are you going to do about it...