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    Default How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    Just curious to hear comments from current V1 owners (especially owners of recent production models) on the accuracy of the directional arrows. If you could describe the accuracy in the % format of how accurate it is for you, and if you have encountered any problems with the arrow display/alert (ie, false arrow alert, no arrow alert, etc)?

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    id say like 99%

    i have noticed that when passing a radar source the arrows are a second behind to switching from front to side to back but thats understandable.

    other than that...arrows rock!

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    When first using the V1 I was a little confused, but after driving around a few known alerts both ways, I knew that the arrows are really a huge asset to the V1 and work great.

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    100% In regards to what they really do: Tell you the direction of the strongest signal... at least relative to the V1.

    All they do is tell you the direction of the strongest SIGNAL, and in that regard they are likely darn near 100% effective...




    NOW: What you want to know... WHICH is not what they are designed for!

    How effective are they at telling you which direction the LEO is relative to you and your V1...


    Highway: ~95%+ depending on surrounding terrain.
    City: ~85% in my city.



    I would have gotten a ticket with the V1 if I thought as you did in my city... that it is meant to show WHERE the source originated (the LEO) which it DOES NOT do!

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirMoore View Post
    100% In regards to what they really do: Tell you the direction of the strongest signal... at least relative to the V1.

    All they do is tell you the direction of the strongest SIGNAL, and in that regard they are likely darn near 100% effective...




    NOW: What you want to know... WHICH is not what they are designed for!

    How effective are they at telling you which direction the LEO is relative to you and your V1...


    Highway: ~95%+ depending on surrounding terrain.
    City: ~85% in my city.



    I would have gotten a ticket with the V1 if I thought as you did in my city... that it is meant to show WHERE the source originated (the LEO) which it DOES NOT do!

    With all respect,
    Jut curious how you would have gotten a ticket if you thought the arrows pointed to the LEO every time? If the V1 goes off regardless of where the arrows are pointing or even working at all wouldn't you slow down anyways? I know I don't wait to confirm the source with the arrows.

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    Well, you do have to use some common sense WRT the arrows, especially in the city and in heavy traffic where the signal gets reflected all over the place which can make the arrows less accurate. What's great about the arrows is they tell you what direction to look for the LEO so you can get a visual. Once you know for sure where they are, you can act accordingly. Also, it's pretty easy to see when you pass a LEO and you see the arrow go from front to side to rear, that you're likely safe from that LEO afterward, unless the signal gets stronger (meaning they're running their rear antenna).
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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    The majority of the time, the arrows are right on the money.

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenRadar View Post

    With all respect,
    Jut curious how you would have gotten a ticket if you thought the arrows pointed to the LEO every time? If the V1 goes off regardless of where the arrows are pointing or even working at all wouldn't you slow down anyways? I know I don't wait to confirm the source with the arrows.

    I didn't get a ticket because I did slow down and did not pay attention to the arrows...


    Here is what happened (in short summation):

    -I am driving out of the city. I get a K-alert forward arrow... I slow down appropriately.

    -A CCSheriff (who only have a single front Antenna on ALL units) pulls out of a side-road onto the main road I am on... he is then oncoming.

    -V1 jumps in its alert to full on K-band. It then jumps to "2 Bogeys".

    -I pass him soon-after after he pulls out of the side road:

    Arrows: Front-side-Rear as I pass the CCSheriff. Bogey count remains at 2 for a short duration of time... AFTER I PASS with rear-arrow. Then it drops to 1bogey, just as I am by the side-road he came out of...


    -Looks like we either have: 1) A Case of K-band ghosting, OR 2) an LEO down the side-street that this CCSheriff came out of... as the V1 said BOTH BOGEYS are behind me as the V1 said before it dropped back to one behind...


    -Now... at this point I would normally speed back up, as the CCSheriff is no threat (front antenna going away from me) and if there was an LEO down the side road they couldn't get my speed anyways... 90% angle... but I was new to the V1 and wasn't impressed...


    -So I stay at my speed... and seconds later as I round a small bend... KA-POW. Front Arrow... dead ahead is a city-kitty... shooting instant-on K-band. OHHHHH so this is where the 2nd K-was from... IN FRONT of me.


    -What seemed to happen is the signal from the city-kitty either got confused with the CCSheriff (the V1 was on overload)... OR the signal from the city-kitty was blocked from the front antenna by the bend in the road... and as such the signal reflected off large brick/concrete buildings behind me into my Rear-antenna with a strong strength...


    Either way, the V1 said 2-Bogeys behind me... when my oh my this was NOT the case.

    Zombies have stated the biggest benefit to the arrows (for years) is the ability to know whether it is safe to speed back up or where the threat is... because EVERYONE slows down when they get an RD hit... as you note...


    The V1 showed the 2-Strongest signal sources behind me maybe, but not the direction of the two sources of origin.



    Either way... I have not been a believer of the V1 in the city at all after that.

    Id rather have no arrows than arrows telling me 2-bogeys are behind me, when it is in-fact:

    1-Bogey behind me, 1-Bogey in front.

    So the V1 again... tells you the strongest signal direction, not the point of signal origin, though the correlation is often high... I understand this with great capacity now and TRY to warn people on here about this:

    THE V1 DOES NOT SHOW YOU THE DIRECTION OF ORIGIN OF A RADAR SIGNAL!!!

    Yet few listen.




    People can use and enjoy their V1 and the arrows to let them know the origin, but I never will...

    Different RD's for different people in different environments...
    Last edited by AirMoore; 04-28-2010 at 08:00 AM.

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    Welcome to the Forum

    re: 99%
    it IS about the strongest signal* not Point at the COP

    remember;
    a detector is a tool and takes a little learning to use effectively
    the rear antenna benefits from an un-obstructed view, same as the front


    *may be reflected

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    Default Re: How is the Accuracy of the Directional Arrows?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldGoat View Post
    Welcome to the Forum

    re: 99%
    it IS about the strongest signal* not Point at the COP

    remember;
    a detector is a tool and takes a little learning to use effectively
    the rear antenna benefits from an un-obstructed view, same as the front


    *may be reflected
    X2

    Also depends if you have your V1 mounted correctly. If you mount it straight down the road and level your arrows are at 99% if you have the RD on an angle then your arrows will still be at 99% at that of the angle of the RD due to the positioning of the two antenna's

 

 

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