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    Default Michael B's Test Results for the Valentine One 3.826

    These are the lab test results for the Valentine One.
    Big thanks to Michael B for the testing!




    Valentine Research V1 Test 02/07/06
    Rev 3.826

    Factory Preset is POP ON
    X -118 WOW
    Ku -111 (default is OFF)
    K -121 Responded 100% at time intervals above 100ms
    33.8 -112 80% at 67ms, 100% from 100 to 200ms, 20 to 80% from 300ms to 600ms, 100% above 700ms
    34.3 -115 0% below 500ms, 50% from 500 to 600ms, 100% above 700ms.
    34.7 -115 0% below 300ms, 50% from 300 to 600ms, 100% above 700ms
    35.5 -113 0% below 300ms, 50% from 300 to 700ms, 100% above 800ms.
    These times were based upon 10 tries at each interval of 100ms from 100ms up thru 1 sec.

    POP OFF
    K -121 Responded 100% above 200ms.
    33.8 -112 Responded 100% above 600ms.
    34.3 -115 Responded 100% above 700ms.
    34.7 -115 Responded 100% above 400ms.
    35.5 -113 Responded 100% above 400ms.
    Unit would sometimes alert at bursts less than the above during POP OFF mode but not consistently enough.

    POP attempts with POP ON. 10 random tries at intervals of 10 seconds or more
    33.8
    67ms 80%
    100ms 100%
    200ms 100%
    300ms 70%
    400ms 50%
    500ms 20%
    600ms 80%
    700ms 100%
    800ms 100%
    900ms 100%
    1 sec 100%


    K Band
    67ms 90%
    100ms 100%
    200ms 100%
    300ms 100%
    400ms 100%
    500ms 100%
    600ms 100%
    700ms 100%
    800ms 100%
    900ms 100%
    1 sec 100%


    Laser Performance was Excellent. The valid range was 30Hz thru 800Hz.
    I seem to recall some Laser guns used overseas around 900Hz.

    X and K windows are tight at 10.490 to 10.560 and 24.040 to 24.260
    Euro mode disables X
    Euro mode Ka freq are only valid from 33.7 thru 33.9GHz and 34.2 thru 34.4GHz
    Unit PRD Falsing test performed well when tested against major known brands and models at 50 feet.

    Sensitivity from the rear horn was as follows
    X -117
    Ku -110
    K -118
    33.8 -105
    34.3 -108
    34.7 -108
    35.5 -106

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    I'm happy with that nice work :wink:

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    Wow...

    That is indeed some K sensitivity...

    Alerts to anything above 100ms with POP on and anything above 200ms with POP off.

    I'm surprised V1 owners do not complain about more K falses :wink:

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    For me, it's called K band automuting and it is so sweet because there is no initial alert unless one cranks up the muted volume lever.

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    Here are some other tests from Michael B on different Brands. I can see the benefit of increased sensitivity on the V1. But other than POP - I can't see the benefit of shorter response times. Wouldn't that just lead to more falses? (Specifically K Band)

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael B
    Radar lab.........
    I have tested the following today.

    To quantify my tests I performed the following.
    Units were tested at the desired frequency and an external electronic trigger was used to control the radar burst.
    The burst times were monitored by an O-scope
    The unit was tested until it responded 10 out of 10 times.

    Whistler POP models
    K..............67ms
    33.8.........67ms
    34.7........150ms
    35.5........150ms

    Cobra POP models
    K.............500ms
    33.8.........worked well from 67 to 100ms but then no response from 100 to 500ms. 500+ the unit was 100% response.
    34.7........750ms
    35.5........500ms

    Bel RX65 I do not know the rev # but it was one of the early units L006503
    K............did not work below 500ms. 500-700ms was mixed results. 700+ was 100% response
    33.8.......60-100 was 100%. 120 to 500 0%. 500-750 was mixed. 750+ was 100%
    34.7.......800ms
    35.5.......800ms
    Like HappyA$$ says: You have a better chance of getting hit with Lightning than you do with getting hit by POP.

    And your chances of getting hit with K Band POP are way less than that...

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    Some where I had seen the Rx65 with the following sensitivities.
    X -108
    Ku -94
    K -117
    33.8 -108
    34.7 -110
    35.5 -107


    And here is the Sti that Mike B. did:

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael B
    You guys want to see delay information?
    I've got delay information.


    Bel Sti Test
    Rev A1 M7

    POP was set ON
    X was inconsistent sometimes -101, sometimes -110, sometime in between.
    K -116 the unit did not report POP K.
    33.8 -110 Good from 60ms to 100ms. No response if 200ms to 900ms. Responded mostly above 1 second
    34.3 -112 Responded sometimes from 400ms to 800ms. Responded mostly above 900ms.
    34.7 -111 Responded sometimes from 300ms to 700ms. Responded mostly above 800ms.
    35.5 -110 Responded sometimes from 400ms to 700ms. Responded mostly above 800ms.

    Factory reset is POP OFF so I tried that to see if anything was different. (It sure was)
    33.8 -110 No response if 60ms to 900ms. Responded mostly above 1 second. Had erratic operation
    34.3 -112 Responded mostly above 500ms.
    34.7 -111 Responded mostly above 400ms.
    35.5 -110 Responded mostly above 500ms.

    It would appear that the POP OFF mode will more frequently respond to second triggers and POP ON mode must wait until 800ms to 1 second.

    For those of you experiencing falsing issues due to other radar detectors, you may wish to turn POP mode ON!

    POP attempts with POP ON. 10 random tries each at intervals of 10 seconds or more
    33.8 67ms 90% K Band 67ms 10%
    100ms 90% 100ms 20%
    200ms 10% 200ms 10%
    300ms 0% 300ms 10%
    400ms 0% 400ms 30%
    500ms 0% 500ms 70%
    600ms 0% 600ms 70%
    700ms 0% 700ms 100%
    800ms 0% 800ms 100%
    900ms 0% 900ms 100%
    1 sec most of the time see note* 1 sec 100%

    NOTE* I had several instances when 33.8 would not work at all even during full CW pulse.
    This unit may have some software of hardware issue. I had to reset the unit and it appeared to work again.

    Sensitivity and windows for X and K were reasonable over temperature and maintained sensitivity to the edges of X and K band

    Laser Performance was good but only valid 100 thru 500 Hz. Good enough for North America I guess.
    I seem to recall some Laser guns used overseas around 900Hz. Sorry to all of you guys over seas.

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    Default Re: Michael B's Test Results for the Valentine One 3.826

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbonzzz
    These are the lab test results for the Valentine One.
    Big thanks to Michael B for the testing!




    Valentine Research V1 Test 02/07/06
    Rev 3.826

    Factory Preset is POP ON
    X -118 WOW
    Ku -111 (default is OFF)
    K -121 Responded 100% at time intervals above 100ms
    33.8 -112 80% at 67ms, 100% from 100 to 200ms, 20 to 80% from 300ms to 600ms, 100% above 700ms
    34.3 -115 0% below 500ms, 50% from 500 to 600ms, 100% above 700ms.
    34.7 -115 0% below 300ms, 50% from 300 to 600ms, 100% above 700ms
    35.5 -113 0% below 300ms, 50% from 300 to 700ms, 100% above 800ms.
    These times were based upon 10 tries at each interval of 100ms from 100ms up thru 1 sec.

    POP OFF
    K -121 Responded 100% above 200ms.
    33.8 -112 Responded 100% above 600ms.
    34.3 -115 Responded 100% above 700ms.
    34.7 -115 Responded 100% above 400ms.
    35.5 -113 Responded 100% above 400ms.
    Unit would sometimes alert at bursts less than the above during POP OFF mode but not consistently enough.

    POP attempts with POP ON. 10 random tries at intervals of 10 seconds or more
    33.8
    67ms 80%
    100ms 100%
    200ms 100%
    300ms 70%
    400ms 50%
    500ms 20%
    600ms 80%
    700ms 100%
    800ms 100%
    900ms 100%
    1 sec 100%


    K Band
    67ms 90%
    100ms 100%
    200ms 100%
    300ms 100%
    400ms 100%
    500ms 100%
    600ms 100%
    700ms 100%
    800ms 100%
    900ms 100%
    1 sec 100%


    Laser Performance was Excellent. The valid range was 30Hz thru 800Hz.
    I seem to recall some Laser guns used overseas around 900Hz.

    X and K windows are tight at 10.490 to 10.560 and 24.040 to 24.260
    Euro mode disables X
    Euro mode Ka freq are only valid from 33.7 thru 33.9GHz and 34.2 thru 34.4GHz
    Unit PRD Falsing test performed well when tested against major known brands and models at 50 feet.

    Sensitivity from the rear horn was as follows
    X -117
    Ku -110
    K -118
    33.8 -105
    34.3 -108
    34.7 -108
    35.5 -106
    SUPER THANKS FOR THESE RESULTS WONDERFUL
    IS THERE ANY TEST FOR THE X50

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    Hey Jimbo, please excluse my ignorance, but I'm not sure how to interpret the numbrs. When it says like K band 121, what am I looking at? A distance? A number of times it alerted? A dB rating?

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    I doubt those RX65 numbers are accurate since it destroyed other detectors in the 33.8 KA frequency. It is also interesting to see that the V1 has better numbers than the STI but still did not detect 33.8 until 200 feet later than the STI. Same goes with 35.5, with sensitivity so high, it is interesting that the V1 did not come out on top in all three bands of KA.

    X and K band detection of the V1 reflects the high sensativity of that found in the lab, but what happened with KA?

 

 

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