Gawd, tell me about it. Those drones on the commute through 280 to SF and back to SJ are just annoying. Although it is a pretty nice scenic drive as much as it can be.Originally Posted by V1 Dave
Gawd, tell me about it. Those drones on the commute through 280 to SF and back to SJ are just annoying. Although it is a pretty nice scenic drive as much as it can be.Originally Posted by V1 Dave
328 eh? is that similar to the 325? i think those can be supercharged those are neat !!!!!Originally Posted by BMWALDO
You drive a 3 series, hardly what I would call german performance. M3, yeah, pretty sporty. Regular 3 series? Wealthy family high-school kid car. Sure it's better than you doing 120 in a z71 tahoe or honda, but the fact is just because it can go that fast doesn't mean it should. The US could nuke North Korea and Iran off the map. Should we, probably not.
I can't really justify how you were doing those speeds in such an average car on a public road. Closed road, maybe. Closed road with a Ferrari F430, Maserati MC12, Ford GT, Pagani Zonda, etc... yeah I get it. Still cant think of a reason someone would push a 328 to those speeds, unless of course your only child is sitting in the back seat in need of immediate medical attention... which doesn't seem to be the case (do you even have children? It seems not)
As a V1 owner, here is some advice: slow the fvck down before you hurt yourself or even worse you and someone else. You're not gaining anything going that fast. If you want adrenaline, start skydiving.
Wow, I'm shocked as well as a little suprised. 120mph is not a big deal, and you guys chastising him because he has a 328i and not a M3? Please, have you ever owned any of the cars mentioned? 120mph is perfectly reasonable, given the right time and place, maybe even a little slow. Highschool kid car? There are BMW owners and there are BMW drivers. Sure, anybody with money can throw it around and buy one, but that doesn't take away from the fact that BMWs and German cars in general are driver's cars. The BMW 328i is as in it's element when it's doing 145mph flat out down an open road as it is slicing through twisty mountain roads at 60mph. The car is as capable as it is comfortable--easy to drive fast and not fatiguing to drive.
Comparing a BMW to a Tahoe? Live axle, 97 or 112mph speed limiter, primitive chassis, gutless engine, thoughtless tranny, unresponsive steering and most dangerous of all, weak brakes. A Chevy Tahoe shouldn't even be allowed to drive 55mph. :roll: And a tin can like a Honda? :roll: It's not even in the same league.Sure it's better than you doing 120 in a z71 tahoe or honda
So, I say to the original poster, join the BMWCCA and go to a few track days, you'll learn alot from track driving and what you learn there can be applied to the street. :twisted:
I've got an IMSA sticker on my BMW for a reason, but I would never take it up to 120 mph on a public road. Hell, I would double check everything before taking it that fast on a track. Its a sedan and a bit of a boat, and certainly not what I would call spry at 120. I've also got a Mercedes (comp. model to BMW but nowhere near as good) and I've owned previous luxury cars. I also own a Suburban to tow my boat with, and it's really not a different machine from the luxurys. Its got 8 cylinders, 4 wheels, ABS brakes, etc. It lacks traction control and ESP, yeah, but the principal is still there.
What happens when a deer bounds out in front of your shiny 3 series. Sure, the crumple zones will probably save you, but not if you swerve, lose control, and slam into a tree or that lone oncoming car.
I'm sure you've seen the pictures of the Audi that was split in half by being wrapped around a tree. **** happens. It happens ALOT faster at 120mph.
I think maybe 100mph is reasonable at night in dry warm conditions where you are the only person on open road. Beyond that is unnecessary, imho.
I agree the Tahoe (hell, almost any GM suv for that matter) have way undersized brakes and are death traps, but the point is still made. The roads are not designed to be driven at 120 mph either. Once again, you can go 120mph on them, but should you?
Put the car aside for a minute and look at how busy this area is, (zoom in/out) it is not an isolated highway by any means and not completely straight at that speed.
If he was going north bound he just came from a windy two lane highway from Santa Cruz, if he was going south bound he just passed a major freeway interchange with a somewhat windy curve.
Next comes how BMWALDO was explaining how he was watching everything around him including the V1 arrows.
If he mounted his V1 high like everyone is told they should do imagine looking up high at bright lights doing those kind of speeds.
Ruins your night vision at a minimum if you are still in your lane when looking back.
Imagine how many feet per second he is traveling, like he said by the time he looks in his mirror he has gone half a football field from his previous location.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...y=US&geodiff=1
wow, this is like a short story from high school!
well written!
Refer to my post 5th from the top.Originally Posted by TabulaRasa
I am a BMWCCA member and I try to make it to as many Auto Xs as I can. Car control clinics too when made available.
I don't want you guys to think I'm driving in a stock car guys. A car that is bouncing around on the road like your commuter cars. No offense intended or represented even with the type of car that I drive. There are commuter cars probably with OE suspension and/or replaced and there are cars like mine. Where as I have a complete upgraded suspension (that I think is pretty damn corvetteish) and chassis reinforcement as well as upgraded brakes and most importantly Yokohoma Advans. (sticky rubber that connects and provides the car with traction and connection to the ground)
I just want to FYI that so that you can get an idea that my car will not sway like a unibody 100k mile car with stock suspension and certainly not in any sense comparable to dual chassis top heavy SUV.
Thanks for providing a visual Dave. It's not straight or level by any means, but is a nice drive in the middle of the night. The V1 at night is not much of an eye deterrence which can cause the dilation of the eye, thus endangering the driver by causeing a distortion in vision from light to dark. The V1 was made purposefully with the use of LED lights that emit the faintest of light as to keep the safety of the driver ensured when having to reference the device. Up high for me for reference is in between the roof lining of my car and my rearview mirror.
Some of you referenced me in my wording of German performance or simply the fact of me owning a BMW or that I just have a little 328i in my story. I don't mean to focus on you, but you did focus your comments a bit more than the others.
First off. I am a car enthusiest plain and simple. My past 2 cars have been BMWs and my future cars will be BMWs. Most car enthusiests as you know them have a slight affinity for their favorite car as do I, and I am biased in simply the workmanship that I appreciate that goes into my car and all the work that I've done to my car. I love my past cars and my present car. As I'm sure some of the Escort or Cobra owners are happier with their RDers as opposed to any other for it's price vs. function and past experience as does any object to any person.Originally Posted by ReadyRadar
I'm well aware that more and more BMWs are getting into teenagers hands, but that's what happens when they get old. They decrease in value and are steadily more available as are all cars. I resent that remark as well as U.S. "nuking" North Korea and Iran. I have friends and family from both countries and I'm surprised you can even blurt something like that with the diversity in not only the US, but I'm sure this board. That is a childish relation to whatever point you're trying to make as it does not correlate in any way and is in a totally different aspect of political and military options and opines.
The first part of that reply is nullified by my previous post, so I won't reference it.Originally Posted by ReadyRadar
Deer don't happen near where my story takes place and any small animal will be run over. Oncoming car? There is a divider. High speeds are never "reasonable." I can't believe that have your hardline first post that you would go softer on your stance. Speed laws and requirements have been made to prescribe to the law abiding drivers what reasonable is on public roads. Exceeding the speed in any variation is unnecessary. I'm not and will never say that exceeding the speed is "OK" or "reasonable."
And the last part I won't reference much because it has no correlation to my sedan and as such is as you said: "have way undersized brakes and are death traps, but the point is still made." Sorry, what point? There is, again, no correlation as it is designed differently and is a completely different make and model and TabulaRasa already did a fair "comparison."
BMWWALDO:
I think you made your point: Your a car enthusiest, who likes BMWs. I didnt mean to belittle your car, nor did others, it just isnt a high-performance machine(even with your aftermarket parts)... so what people are trying to say is:
By saying your in your BMW moving along at 120MPH and you have your radardetector (V1) to save you from the LEO's, it just makes this site look bad. To an outside reader it would appear (from reading something like that... no matter how well written) thats why we have our RD's to the blatently speed at outlandishly excessive speeds with no regaurd to our safety, others safety, and the rules (laws) of the road. It is stories such as yours that leave a bad taste in peoples mouth (especially some LEO's that see our forum). Your little disclaimer doesnt help btw.
And if you want to run at such speeds, "take it to the track" (which you say you do)... well let me rephrase that... "Take it to the track, AND leave it there!"
And what ReadyRadar stated was a simply analogy, it was not meant, and you should not take offense to such a statement. It was infact a simple analogy, not an analogy with a implied context that we (the US) ever SHOULD do such a thing... actually just the opposite.
He was trying to convey that just because your car can do 120, doesnt mean you should do it... ever...on a public road...
I mean: just because the mode of transportation I prefer could smoke your BMW, without even thinking about it, I dont go out (no matter what time) and do it, because its simply not something I should do.
You could use terms to describe your speed that would leave a better taste in peoples minds about you, and about this website:
I was going "at a fairly crisp pace" (instead of 120MPH)
I was going "on the far side of the speedlimit." (instead of over 100MPH)
I was clicking off 1/4mile marks rather quickly.
etc etc etc Not only does it not convey your childish speed, it conveys a sense of intellect... which you (and your story) seem to have.
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