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jdreynss
08-17-2006, 10:58 AM
If you are new to the world of police radar, and the various countermeasures...welcome to the board. Here you will find tons of useful information that will tell you basically anything that you need to know. If you have a question, try a search on your subject of interest, as there are most likely already existing posts on the topic that you seek. I will attempt to answer a few of the questions that new people often ask, in an attempt to reduce some of the posts that manage to pop up repeatedly.

1. A radar detector is just that,a radar detector... it is not a cop detector. If the Leo is not running radar, you will NOT get an alert from them, so please do not write a post saying that you passed a cop, but your radar detector did not go off, and asking what is wrong. This is normal.

2. The question of where to mount your detector is the most debated topic there is. There are advantages and disadvantages to each location, but mostly it is a matter of personal preference, and where YOU seem to get the best results.

Mounting Low...
Most manufacturers recommend mounting the detector low (with the exception of Valentine), mounting low will give you the best results on a direct laser hit, but unless you have a jammer installed, you are pretty much caught if you get a direct hit. Radar range will be good at this level.

Mounting high...
Mounting high can give you an advantage in radar detection. The theory being that if your detector is high, it has a better view of the road ahead, and the possibility of being able to "see" through the vehicles ahead of you. As for laser, with the unit mounted high, you are more likely to pick up laser scatter if a vehicle ahead of you is the target, hopefully giving you time to slow down.

Mounting in the middle...
Many people choose to mounts their detectors in the middle, right below their rearview mirror. This position provides some of the advantages of both the high and low mount. Slightly improved radar reception over the low mount option, while hopefully still being high enough to pick up laser scatter, but still low enough to detect a direct hit.

As mentioned before, where you mount your detector is largely personal preference, and what works best for you, try in in each of these locations, and use the one that seems to work best for you. If laser is not a concern in your area, then it all you have to do is figure out which position gives you the best radar performance. One thing that nearly everyone on this board WILL agree on, is not to mount you detector to the far right, or left..but to mount near the middle.


3. What is the best detector/which detector is right for me??

If you ask this question on this board, you will get several different answers. Obviously the top three are the best,(Escort 8500 X50, Bel Rx65, and the Valentine V1). Between these three, the Valentine has been shown to have the advantage in laser detection, followed by the Escort 8500 X50, and the Bel Rx65, and as far as radar detection, these three units are very close to one another. At this point, it comes down to features, as each unit has it's own unique features, and your own personal preference. There is now "perfect" radar detector, but these three are the "cream of the crop". Obviously, not everyone can afford to spend $300.00++ on one of the top three, and that is fine. I would however start saving up for one of them, because they WILL pay for themselves. Think about the price of a speeding ticket, and then think about the raise in you insurance premiums, and you can Easily see how after one or to saves from tickets, these units cab pay for themselves very quickly. So, you're one of those people who just can't or wont spend that kind of money...now what? Bel makes several models below the Rx65 that are very solid performers, such as the V995, V955, V940..These models run anywhere from $150.00-300.00 on average. Whistler makes some decent units such as the Pro58, and pro73. The Pro58 can be had for around $100.00, and both of these have gotten decent reviews. Many people on this board will tell you to never buy a Cobra, because the detection range is short, and sometimes they will set off the top 3 detectors because they leak their signal. I would say that a Cobra, couple with alert driving, is better than nothing at all...but the whistler would be a better investment. One thing that everyone here WILL agree on is this...NEVER, under any circumstances, should you purchase a product from Rocky Mountain Radar. These products DO NOT work as advertised, and you would be better served by flushing your money down a toilet.
So, decide how much you can spend, and then spend some time looking around this forum...No one can tell you which radar detector is right for YOU, all we can do is make recommendations based on what we like, and what we have experience with.

4. Where should I buy my radar detector???

There are many places that you can buy your radar detector. You can buy in-store, on-line, or from E-bay. The most important thing is that you buy from an authorized dealer. Especially if you are buying one of the top three. Escort and Bel WILL NOT honor warranties if purchased from an unauthorized dealer. E-bay IS NOT authorized, and you never know what you will get from there. That "great deal" won't be so great, if you get you detector, and it stops working, and you have to pay to have it fixed. Many E-bay sellers sell units as "unopened, new in the box". Many of these units are actually refurbished units from Mexico. Some of you will say "well, this guy on eBay says that that if anything goes wrong with it within three years, he will replace it". Many Ebay people offer their own warranty on these detectors, because they know that the factory will not honor the warranty, but, who is to say that in six months from now, if your detector stops working, that the person who sold you the detector will still be around?? People selling on Ebay come and go, and you never know when they will go. One of the best places to purchase a radar detector is here www.radarbusters.com This site is owned and operated by "Radar" Roy Reyer. Roy is a retired police officer, who is also a certified radar instructor. Roy has the best customer service in the industry, and is extremely knowledgable in the area of radar detectors. If you Buy from Roy, and have a problem with your detector, he will take care of the problem. Roy is also the one who hosts this forum, so any purchases that you make from him, also help keep this forum up and running. Roy is also known to give discounts to members of this forum.

In conclusion, when shopping for a radar detector, find the models you are interested in, and then do some research. Use this forum to your advantage, as there are many many knowledgeable people here that are more than willing to help you.

canadian
08-17-2006, 11:12 AM
Very imformative post!

Well done!

GET 1T DONE
08-17-2006, 12:20 PM
Part 3 needs to be a little more comprehensive and objective.


Also, why repeat info that's already available? Like in the FAQ section (aka "Best Of")... there's already a sticky on "Radar Detector Mounting".

jdreynss
08-17-2006, 02:24 PM
Also, why repeat info that's already available? Like in the FAQ section (aka "Best Of")... there's already a sticky on "Radar Detector Mounting".Because we see people asking the same question time and time again

spankyaf
08-17-2006, 02:47 PM
Sticky

Bear-Tweezy
08-17-2006, 03:18 PM
Sticky
agreed! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

SmaartAasSaabr
08-17-2006, 03:24 PM
If you have problems with sticky try putting some lighter fluid on a cloth and rub, it should all go away then... :wink:

oakhed
08-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Very informative. Thank you...

Noobs aren't gonna read it, unless it's pinned (sticky).... and honestly, prolly not even then.

This is the age of instant gratification. You will see it manifest more often with younger folks. Not to slam our "yutes" of today... just seems to be a fact I've seen on forums about anything.

I'm in the process of determining where to mount... I've tried low, I'm trying high... and I'm gonna try middle. I've gotten one succesful detection of a LEO on the hiway but I wasn't speeding anyway and it was a very brief reading. I'm currently trying to see if I can catch one in town.

I'm thinking, once I have a several of these detections under my belt, having timed the distance from warning to seeing the LEO, I will have a better idea of how long it might take me to slow down in given situations.

I agree 100% that the RD is simply a tool. It does not guarantee no ticket, it does not guarantee not being clocked. In fact, 'round these parts, they use VASCAR very often, and no RD is going to protect you from that. (our town has one of the largest helicopter fleets in the world (per capita) So you always have to be vigilant anyway.

CactusMan
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Most appreciated.

Suf Daddy
09-07-2006, 07:47 PM
Moving this content to this thread:
http://www.radardetector.net/LOOKING-FOR-A-DETECTOR-READ-FIRST-BEFORE-ASKING%21-15551t.php
-Suf Daddy

DOUG
09-18-2006, 04:28 PM
GOOD INFO THANKS

alias3r
11-29-2006, 05:40 PM
definitely needs to be proof read and corrected lol. lots of spelling errors.

Hugo
12-20-2006, 10:39 AM
Very helpfull info, I own an old escort and would like to replace it. Will look into your suggestions! :D

CactusMan
01-25-2007, 12:09 AM
Wish more readers would read this post.

StlouisX50
01-25-2007, 11:04 AM
He needs to add the STI to the top list and make it the top 4 list. Soon It will be the top 5 list with the 9500. I'M sure.

CapeCodPoliceOfficer
02-22-2007, 08:09 PM
The best part about writing speeding tickets is when I catch someone that has a radar, especially when it flashing and beeping like its gonna blow up. Then I make a smart ass remark like, hey guess you should go get your money back for the radar or, guess your radar aint working too well. The look on the operators face is priceless.

jimbonzzz
02-22-2007, 08:23 PM
The best part about writing speeding tickets is when I catch someone that has a radar, especially when it flashing and beeping like its gonna blow up. Then I make a smart ass remark like, hey guess you should go get your money back for the radar or, guess your radar aint working too well. The look on the operators face is priceless.

I could understand that. I'll bet the satisfaction is similar to what a motorist experiences when he has a "save" by using his detector wisely. But a detector is only a tool, police will always have the upper hand.

Welcome to the forum, good to have more police on here. :D

StlouisX50
02-22-2007, 11:29 PM
The best part about writing speeding tickets is when I catch someone that has a radar, especially when it flashing and beeping like its gonna blow up. Then I make a smart ass remark like, hey guess you should go get your money back for the radar or, guess your radar aint working too well. The look on the operators face is priceless.

I could understand that. I'll bet the satisfaction is similar to what a motorist experiences when he has a "save" by using his detector wisely. But a detector is only a tool, police will always have the upper hand.

Welcome to the forum, good to have more police on here. :D

X2 Jim, whats even better is the facial expression of an officers face when his lidar gun being jammed :lol: I give credit to smart LEOS using instant on. Shows they know how to catch speeders. Then again those who dont use their radar or leave it on show they could care less if you speed or not. I like those too

But I love the articles that say how police have the upper hand when they use air to ground. Makes me laugh my ass off. :wink:

CapeCodPoliceOfficer
02-23-2007, 06:28 AM
Sometimes I just sit on the side of the road with the dam thing on and just get who I get. But usually to avoid detectction I sit in a spot where I can't be seen, even when the car is litterally on top of me. Only then will I turn on the radar and even if I get detected its too late.

<<JAZZY>>
02-23-2007, 07:21 AM
My favorite thing about the Valentine One is to know where the cops are so that I can pull off the interstate and watch them fly by. It is fun to defeat a cop's expensive radar gun with a $400 device that is so much smarter than a cop could ever dream of being.

Oz Striker
04-21-2007, 06:31 PM
Ok guys please dont flame me but ive only over the last few days been reading up propely on detector and jammer info.

Now ive decided to go for the Laser Pro Parking detector/jammer to mount behind my grill, and prob get some veil paint for my headlights.

In additon i was also going to get a 2nd sensor to place next to my rear view mirror, thus giving me full frontal coverage. Now the problem with this part of my plan is that, i'll have no radar coverage.
But heres my question; "do i really need radar detection?". As soon as it sounds you've been done, cause theres no effective countermeasure.......... radar jammers are illegal and stuff like the veil counter laser, not radar.

The only situation i can see getting say, a Valentine instead of a 2nd sensor, is to pick up radar scatter if i'm following another car.

Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

zeke1312
03-09-2008, 10:35 AM
OK, I'm new here and just read this thread and am waiting for answers to comments posted here. I'll jump to other threads with the hope of learning more.

djrams80
03-09-2008, 11:53 AM
Ok guys please dont flame me but ive only over the last few days been reading up propely on detector and jammer info.

Now ive decided to go for the Laser Pro Parking detector/jammer to mount behind my grill, and prob get some veil paint for my headlights.

In additon i was also going to get a 2nd sensor to place next to my rear view mirror, thus giving me full frontal coverage. Now the problem with this part of my plan is that, i'll have no radar coverage.
But heres my question; "do i really need radar detection?". As soon as it sounds you've been done, cause theres no effective countermeasure.......... radar jammers are illegal and stuff like the veil counter laser, not radar.

The only situation i can see getting say, a Valentine instead of a 2nd sensor, is to pick up radar scatter if i'm following another car.

Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
Radar is usually detectable about 1 to 2 miles prior to reaching the radar gun under normal conditions with a good RD. If I understand you correctly, you think that a RD is useless since it is illegal to jam a radar signal, but nothing could be further from the truth. Radar is very easy to detect at a very long distance, usually plenty of time for the RD user to slow down and avoid a speeding citation.

amoney
03-09-2008, 12:08 PM
Well hell, lets all bump this thread, it seems lately it is needed anyways.

Ray
03-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Yeah, but after two pages worth, nobody has yet to tell me what RADAR detector to get and where to mount it... :lol:

dpatel01
03-10-2008, 03:39 AM
The best part about writing speeding tickets is when I catch someone that has a radar, especially when it flashing and beeping like its gonna blow up. Then I make a smart ass remark like, hey guess you should go get your money back for the radar or, guess your radar aint working too well. The look on the operators face is priceless.

The best part of about having a RD that works is when I find a LEO with a radar/laser gun shooting from behind a tree then I drive by his speed trap half dozen times a few mph below PSL and slow down all the other drivers behind me. I just love the look on their faces when they see me go past them again and again and they can't pull me over. And as for the one time that the LEO did pull me over for doing this, he learned not to argue with an idiot for they will drag him down to their level and then beat them with experience!! :lol:

Midlo Man
04-25-2008, 01:41 PM
Its funny to read your post. About 3 years ago I was pulled over by a local officer with a radar detector (I didn't have it on as the fuse was blown and I was being lazy about its replacement). He said to me: "How much did you pay for that radar detector?". To which I replied: "Appearently too much." At which point he laughed very loudly and said "I ask that question whenever I get the chance and that was the best response I have heard...I'll just write you a warning".

That was a Cobra RD that has long-since been in a landfill. I roll with a V1 and haven't been bothered by your kind since. I look forward to NOT speaking with you.