View Full Version : Best Remote Radar Detector/Laser Jammer?
anaxagoras
07-06-2005, 10:41 PM
First post:
I just got a 99 Cobra Mustang convertible 2 months ago, and well i've realized i need a radar detector, and want to get something before it's too late.
I do a lot of traveling to virginia and detectors are illegal down there. I was thinking one of those remote mount units would be ideal for me, like the escort srx. What i want to know is which is the best remote mount unit for both detector and laser jammer?
Clasen24
07-06-2005, 10:53 PM
i know bel makes one, but i forget what its called. Now that ESCORT and BEL are a brother sister company, you can pretty much trust either one. I would def. go with the SRX though, its a PRETTY solid unit.
- jordan
jbird
07-06-2005, 11:11 PM
If you want one product from one company then the best would be the RX75 Plus from Beltronics. It is probably the same as the Escort system just a little bit cheaper. If you want a more effective laser jamming system consider getting a Blinder installed or possibly a Lidatek unit (pending SML test results) instead of the Laserpro or Shifter ZR3. If the budget is really tight then the Whistler unit is an option. The Veil Stealth coating and Laser Shield are proven to be effective passive laser countermeasures that are always working and won't be outdated as quickly as a jammer might.
http://www.radarbusters.com/products/beltronics/rx75.asp
http://www.radarbusters.com/products/escort/sr7.asp
http://www.radarbusters.com/products/whistler/3400.asp
http://www.radarbusters.com/products/blinder/default.asp
http://www.radarbusters.com/products/coatings/veil.asp
http://www.radarbusters.com/products/photo-radar/Laser-Shield.asp
anaxagoras
07-06-2005, 11:39 PM
i am budgett concious, but i'd rather put off some mods on my car and get the best protection i can get. I already have high insurance and in the long run i feel as if it's an investment that will pay itself. What's this lidatek unit? I thought blinder was the best laser jammer?
Clasen24
07-06-2005, 11:49 PM
I got an 01 mustang, Lidatek is a TOP NOTCH laser jammer, which is beginning to be considered 'the best' by some. It provides a JTG ( Jam to gun ) on ALL laser guns ( i'm pretty sure ALL guns.. but someone correct me if im wrong ) another thing thats good about it is its a SMALL unit.. so you could use this in conjunction with an SRX witch would be a NICE set up.I had Escorts Shifter ZR3, but just sold it. I had the mach 1 grille delete, and mounted the two 'shifters' to right right and left of the 'pony' was a nice install. I'd look into those two products if your looking for a REMOTE unit.. if you dont live in virgina, id DEF. go with the Valentine 1. Hands down best detector out there.... valentine 1, with lidatek is an untouchable setup!
- jordan
crazyVOLVOrob
07-07-2005, 12:00 AM
currently the version sold doesn't jam LA stealth mode but it can be modified to do hat and will soon be sold being able to jam LA stealth mode
... a Lidatek unit (pending SML test results) instead of the Laserpro or Shifter ZR3.
If you think SML test results hold water, especially in the laser jammer testing then by all means hold off and wait for the sml results. A few other members on this board have some other views. This other member brought up some good points that I'll quote below. I want to add that I don't believe Roy is biased and I think Sethy is more then capable for mounting laser jammers. This is just what someone else said and I think it's good to add some other views.
Well normally the company rep would ride with other company reps with an officer or SML observer.
The laser jammer tests were done on Sunday, after all the radar detector tests were done. All the reps from Bel, Escort, Etc were gone as the "Radar Detector Shoot Out" was done.
So we were left with Sethy, Me, Leon, Corbin, JT, Fors, and 1 officer for the test and the staff of Motortrend.
As Mimic (Lance did not show), Laser Tech, RMR, Lidatek did not have reps, they of course were not in the car(s)
Sethy did all the installs of all the jammers with the exception of the Blinder. He also done the install on the Viper.
I've been surfing this forum for a while and know all those names except for JT. Is JT JTW?
For the SML laser jammer testing you had the following people left:
Sethy-- Blinder customer. Trip paid for by Roy or blinder.
Roy -- Blinder salesman.
Leon -- Blinder USA CEO
Corbin -- Blinder Inventor
JT -- Who is this guy? Is he a blinder rep too?
Fors -- Paid a fee by Blinder for the tests
Officer -- Operates the laser gun
Call me blind(punn intended), but how can you have a fair laser jammer test when everybody is linked to Blinder in a major way? The police officer was shooting the gun. This means a blinder guy would be driving the test cars of the competitors laser jammers. How do we know a blinder rep isn't turning the competitors laser jammers off 10% of the time?
Roy also says Seth installed most of the laser jammers except for blinders. Seth is like 18 years old I think. Why does an 18 year old install jammers that are to be professoinally installed and when it comes to blinder he's not allowed to touch it? What is going on here?
anaxagoras
07-07-2005, 12:52 AM
i don't live in virginia, i actually live up in connecticut. but i've gotten 2 speeding tickets in virginia, 1 in marlyand, and 2 in new york. I think detectors are also illegal in maryland. When i do those road trips Ii tend to speed more and it shows. So i'd just feel safer with something that's hardwired and concealed like that, esp now that i have a more 'attractive' and car.
synmoo
07-07-2005, 09:16 AM
I've had an RX75 Plus for awhile now and I couldn't be much happier. Have yet to be hit with laser thought. Not a laser rich area here.
Pics of my install:
http://images.synmoo.com/gti/rx75/rx75d.jpg
http://images.synmoo.com/gti/rx75/rx75night.jpg
Radar Roy
07-07-2005, 10:18 AM
Guys we could have JC at the test and someone would *****!
Who the hell cares who is driving the car? The tests and installs were videoed and photoed, examined by Carl and his staff and monitored by Carl and his staff. Also Motortrend was there and their monitoring was much tighter then anything that Carl has ever done. Carl made the blind purchases prior to the test. But because Motortrend was not present, they went out the night before the tests and puchased all new units AGAIN from Best Buy, some truck stops and the Internet!
If we were scared about Lidatek's performance why the hell would I had purchased one at $598.00? Why would had Leon allowed it to be tested as he paid his $1500.00 entry fee and there was no Lidatek fee paid?
Leon, Carl and I went OUT OF OUR WAY to make this the most comprehensive laser test ever done. I spent well over $3000.00 on laser jammers, Carl waived the fees for the jammers, and Leon allowed his unit to go up against them ALL!
So say what you want to dismiss the tests, nothing we would post anyway would be any good for any of you nay sayers. Go ahead and and promote your mimics, laser techs and maxijammers.
Am I pissed, HELL YES!
stalkervision
07-07-2005, 10:35 AM
Guys we could have JC at the test and someone would *BEEP*!
Who the hell cares who is driving the car? The tests and installs were videoed and photoed, examined by Carl and his staff and monitored by Carl and his staff. Also Motortrend was there and their monitoring was much tighter then anything that Carl has ever done. Carl made the blind purchases prior to the test. But because Motortrend was not present, they went out the night before the tests and puchased all new units AGAIN from Best Buy, some truck stops and the Internet!
If we were scared about Lidatek's performance why the hell would I had purchased one at $598.00? Why would had Leon allowed it to be tested as he paid his $1500.00 entry fee and there was no Lidatek fee paid?
Leon, Carl and I went OUT OF OUR WAY to make this the most comprehensive laser test ever done. I spent well over $3000.00 on laser jammers, Carl waived the fees for the jammers, and Leon allowed his unit to go up against them ALL!
So say what you want to dismiss the tests, nothing we would post anyway would be any good for any of you nay sayers. Go ahead and and promote your mimics, laser techs and maxijammers.
Am I pissed, HELL YES!
Roy , no matter how stringent the testing procedures someone will carp about the test because their favorite product didn't come off as well as others. All one can do is do the best on your part to see that that the tests are fair.
sethy
07-07-2005, 10:43 AM
I've been surfing this forum for a while and know all those names except for JT. Is JT JTW?
For the SML laser jammer testing you had the following people left:
Sethy-- Blinder customer. Trip paid for by Roy or blinder.
Roy -- Blinder salesman.
Leon -- Blinder USA CEO
Corbin -- Blinder Inventor
JT -- Who is this guy? Is he a blinder rep too?
Fors -- Paid a fee by Blinder for the tests
Officer -- Operates the laser gun
Call me blind(punn intended), but how can you have a fair laser jammer test when everybody is linked to Blinder in a major way? The police officer was shooting the gun. This means a blinder guy would be driving the test cars of the competitors laser jammers. How do we know a blinder rep isn't turning the competitors laser jammers off 10% of the time?
Roy also says Seth installed most of the laser jammers except for blinders. Seth is like 18 years old I think. Why does an 18 year old install jammers that are to be professoinally installed and when it comes to blinder he's not allowed to touch it? What is going on here?
Actually, I am 19. Age has nothing to do how well you can do somthing. When I was 17 I ranked 2nd in the nation for webdesign through Business Professionals of America, competing against 5000 highschoolers and college students. How many 80 year olds can do that?
Age has nothing to do with anything. Only thing that matters is the quility of the install, which was checked by Carl & his crew before testing. So my guess is, this 19 year old did a pretty d*mn good job installing this stuff.
As for this being biased with blinder? Where in the world did that come from? I am a blinder customer, yes- but that does NOT affect me in any way shape or form during the testing. I went down there, because Roy invited me for sacrificing my time monitoring the forum daily. I also own Veil, and the Veil Guy was down there. Does that make me biased with him as well? Most of the forum members have blinders, are you going to say that they shouldn't be invited to SML as well because they are "biased"?
I am an average consumer, just like you and everyone else. I am offended that after I got back from my trip, that now I have to sit here and defend stuff that I did. Its rediculous...
stalkervision
07-07-2005, 02:23 PM
I've been surfing this forum for a while and know all those names except for JT. Is JT JTW?
For the SML laser jammer testing you had the following people left:
Sethy-- Blinder customer. Trip paid for by Roy or blinder.
Roy -- Blinder salesman.
Leon -- Blinder USA CEO
Corbin -- Blinder Inventor
JT -- Who is this guy? Is he a blinder rep too?
Fors -- Paid a fee by Blinder for the tests
Officer -- Operates the laser gun
Call me blind(punn intended), but how can you have a fair laser jammer test when everybody is linked to Blinder in a major way? The police officer was shooting the gun. This means a blinder guy would be driving the test cars of the competitors laser jammers. How do we know a blinder rep isn't turning the competitors laser jammers off 10% of the time?
Roy also says Seth installed most of the laser jammers except for blinders. Seth is like 18 years old I think. Why does an 18 year old install jammers that are to be professoinally installed and when it comes to blinder he's not allowed to touch it? What is going on here?
Actually, I am 19. Age has nothing to do how well you can do somthing. When I was 17 I ranked 2nd in the nation for webdesign through Business Professionals of America, competing against 5000 highschoolers and college students. How many 80 year olds can do that?
Age has nothing to do with anything. Only thing that matters is the quility of the install, which was checked by Carl & his crew before testing. So my guess is, this 19 year old did a pretty d*mn good job installing this stuff.
As for this being biased with blinder? Where in the world did that come from? I am a blinder customer, yes- but that does NOT affect me in any way shape or form during the testing. I went down there, because Roy invited me for sacrificing my time monitoring the forum daily. I also own Veil, and the Veil Guy was down there. Does that make me biased with him as well? Most of the forum members have blinders, are you going to say that they shouldn't be invited to SML as well because they are "biased"?
I am an average consumer, just like you and everyone else. I am offended that after I got back from my trip, that now I have to sit here and defend stuff that I did. Its rediculous...
Where in the Wide Wide World of Sports did you think Sethy was biased! :shock: He one of the LEAST BIASED of anyone one here and besides he's not smart enough to be biased. Ask anyone here! :wink: :lol: 8)
I hope that helped you out Sethy :)
sethy
07-07-2005, 02:43 PM
he's not smart enough to be biased
Thanks? :lol:
robert
07-07-2005, 04:43 PM
i don't live in virginia, i actually live up in connecticut. but i've gotten 2 speeding tickets in virginia, 1 in marlyand, and 2 in new york. I think detectors are also illegal in maryland.
RDs are illegal in VA and DC but legal in MD.
Virion
07-07-2005, 05:07 PM
To be honest with you in regard to VA driving, you only have 2 options. The SRX or the RX75 Plus. The Whistler units are detectable by the VG2 from a pretty good distance. The Bel is the least detectable out of these detectors. It's too bad you have a convertable, or you could drive with the top up in VA. I live in VA and have a V1 that's almost invisible via site.
jbird
07-07-2005, 06:17 PM
To be honest with you in regard to VA driving, you only have 2 options. The SRX or the RX75 Plus. The Whistler units are detectable by the VG2 from a pretty good distance. The Bel is the least detectable out of these detectors. It's too bad you have a convertable, or you could drive with the top up in VA. I live in VA and have a V1 that's almost invisible via site.
The newer Whistler Pro units are not detectable by VG2, but still give a VG2 alert so they are safe to use in VA. The older Whistler units like you said will set off VG2 from quite a ways away. See the radar detector detector testing on the following two links.
http://www.speedzones.com/
http://www.speedtraps.co.il/valentine1/press/speedzone.htm
anaxagoras
07-31-2005, 01:26 PM
Well just an update, i still haven't made any decisions yet. I've been looking at the remote mount units like the sr7, srx, and the rx75.
i noticed they all only have front sensors for radar, are rear sensors un-nessesary? Too bad valentine doesn't have a remote mount unit. I was thinking about rigging up some sort of concealed V1 like i've seen some people do, but with a converitble my options are very limited on where i can hide a detector and still give it line of sight.
Another thing the none of the remote mount units detect pop?