View Full Version : Anyone compare X50 to V1 on laser range
RacerX
02-09-2005, 10:56 AM
I'm looking for info comparing laser range between these two.
has anyone done some real world comparisons.
I mount high on the windshield, and it seems laser is going to be an issue around here.
I just installed my blinder m-10 twin the other day that i got last year off ebay. i had it on yesterday when i was driving around town doing my comparisons and i found a laser trap. i left it on and let a car drive past me on the left, as i got closer to the motor cop i turned it off, and as i drove by i saw him turn and stare at the car that was going faster than me, so i think it may have worked, but i'm not positive. if i find out they have a newer type laser gun (he was holding a small handheld, black handle with silver body) that it doesn't block, then i'll upgrade to the M20 or M40.
I'm also considering using Veil, i just wonder how it will look/work on my chrome trim. (no front plate here)
happya$$
02-17-2005, 10:27 AM
I do not have exact numbers but I can tell you that my V1 has been equal to my Blinder in terms of laser range. The V1 has impressed the hell out of me with its laser detection. I have been lasered like crazy here in Ohio. Officers LOVE laser here, absolutely LOVE IT
sethy
02-17-2005, 10:29 AM
laser is a straight beam. I dont believe it deminishes for a LOONNGGG range. So this isn't somthing you should be worried about in a detector.
you never know its possible to get a hit from the car in front of you. Saved me more than three times. and ive got a high mount aswell.
happya$$
02-18-2005, 07:11 AM
Mike has the Laser detection as good as it can get on a radar detector. I still say that with the Blinder, Veil, and V1 you are almost invisible
Veil Guy
02-24-2005, 08:27 PM
I coouldn't comment specifically about this in my review because we only commented on what we actually experienced.
That being said, the V1 has [in the past] demonstrated superior laser detection as compared to the others, at least at SML's previous years test.
Unfortunately SML doesn't keep an archive online of previous years but I recall in '03 the V1 was the only wiindshield mount detector capable of seeing and alerting to laser use at distances less than 1000' (500', I recall).
The Veil Guy 8)
joop1987
02-25-2005, 01:59 AM
laser is a straight beam. I dont believe it deminishes for a LOONNGGG range. So this isn't somthing you should be worried about in a detector.
A laser is a straight beam, but a speed laser gun (lidar) does spread. A cheap laser pointer spreads less than a lidar gun.
From SML:
"The distances are important as at 500 feet the laser’s beam divergence is a mere 18 inches and at 1000 feet 36 inches. Officers are limited by judicial precedent from operating laser past 1000 feet"
lordhamster
03-24-2005, 11:42 AM
laser is a straight beam. I dont believe it deminishes for a LOONNGGG range. So this isn't somthing you should be worried about in a detector.
A laser is a straight beam, but a speed laser gun (lidar) does spread. A cheap laser pointer spreads less than a lidar gun.
From SML:
"The distances are important as at 500 feet the laser’s beam divergence is a mere 18 inches and at 1000 feet 36 inches. Officers are limited by judicial precedent from operating laser past 1000 feet"
Agreed, plus you can do a very simple test for yourself. At night go outside with a laser pointer. Have a friend shoot it at a wall, now walk around close to the target and look towards the laser source... despite the fact the beam is quite narrow, it will still be possible for you to see the source because some light bounces off the cover/lens etc...
I suspect the v1 would see this kind of indirect laser as well.
BiGeAsYgUy
03-24-2005, 03:00 PM
I coouldn't comment specifically about this in my review because we only commented on what we actually experienced.
That being said, the V1 has [in the past] demonstrated superior laser detection as compared to the others, at least at SML's previous years test.
Unfortunately SML doesn't keep an archive online of previous years but I recall in '03 the V1 was the only wiindshield mount detector capable of seeing and alerting to laser use at distances less than 1000' (500', I recall).
The Veil Guy 8)
http://web.archive.org/web/20031024014414/http://www.speedzones.com/
Jon_Doh
03-26-2005, 01:49 PM
The V1 sweeps 360 deg and has a greater ability to pick up off angle laser whereas the X50 and the Bels have limited range in their sweeps.
jimbonzzz
03-26-2005, 02:04 PM
The V1 sweeps 360 deg and has a greater ability to pick up off angle laser whereas the X50 and the Bels have limited range in their sweeps.
You might have a point there...
The only laser "Field Of View" test I know of (Car & Driver) showed V1 as having the widest field of view...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/jimbonzzz/Field.jpg
happya$$
03-26-2005, 02:18 PM
Man Jim we are ALL going to start calling you professor Jim.
sethy
03-26-2005, 02:22 PM
Man Jim we are ALL going to start calling you professor Jim.
I think he should change his name to that :)
happya$$
03-26-2005, 02:50 PM
Lets do it
BiGeAsYgUy
03-26-2005, 08:38 PM
2001 Automobile Magazine testing of laser detection:
Laser FOV Left/Right followed by Front Laser Alert distance:
Bel 36in/15in
4,000ft
Cobra No Report
3,100ft
Escort 52in/36in
4,000ft
Uniden No Report
2,800ft
Valentine 91in/92in
4,000ft
Whistler 48in/34in
3,500ft
SETITOFF
03-28-2005, 07:39 AM
The V1 sweeps 360 deg and has a greater ability to pick up off angle laser whereas the X50 and the Bels have limited range in their sweeps.
You might have a point there...
The only laser "Field Of View" test I know of (Car & Driver) showed V1 as having the widest field of view...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/jimbonzzz/Field.jpg
Can you expound upon this chart a bit? My monitor color is 'yttihs' and can't make out the reds and blues (which is who's)?
jimbonzzz
03-28-2005, 07:50 AM
Widest to narrowest field of view:
Front:
1 Valentine
2. Escort
3. BEL
4. Cobra
5. Whistler
6. Uniden
Rear:
1. Valentine
2. Escort
3. Cobra
4. Whistler
5. BEL
6. Uniden
SETITOFF
03-28-2005, 10:07 AM
Got it, thanks. So, every RD maker is falsely advertising "360d laser protection/detection". All have blind spots, and some aren't spots, but sectors :!: :shock:
brick
03-28-2005, 11:29 AM
I wonder what version of V1 they used in that test? If it was the 1.7 then I have to wonder if it's as good now that the location of the rear sensor has changed.
fallen8511
03-28-2005, 04:04 PM
Radartest.com also does FOV testing.
jimbonzzz
03-28-2005, 06:06 PM
That actually says a LOT if V1 won something on RadarTest.com.
Everyone knows how much Craig Peterson loves the Valentine :D
Jim
BiGeAsYgUy
03-28-2005, 06:08 PM
Don't forget about this laser test:
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/8728/caranddriverlaser5re.gif
and this one:
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/7491/scan0001aaa2wf.jpg
sethy
03-28-2005, 07:20 PM
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/8728/caranddriverlaser5re.gif
I have a hard time believeing that the V1 falses like hell on laser to brake lights, but is unable to beat the BEL or escort
SmaartAasSaabr
03-29-2005, 10:05 AM
It just did beat the belscorts!? :shock: