Whos the one in Florida selling LI

[QuickCummins]

Spring Hill, Florida, a quad setup for $775... on flea bay?

[ELVATO]

There's a couple users here from Spring Hill, Fl. Wonder if it's one of them?

[lacning74]

If they're real with serial numbers intact, they should still have some warranty left.

[jimbonzzz]

It's C55.

[ELVATO]

You selling your LI, C55? So you don't have one anymore?

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Nope! Bought three, only installing two of them. Just have the one Quad unit remaining. Received this week direct from LI in Croatia. Latest Heads, 2 slims for rear and 2 full-size for fronts and latest CPU version. Full 2-year Unlimited Factory Warranty for those who asked. :D

Cliff - C55

[aj]

Nope! Bought three, only installing two of them. Just have the one Quad unit remaining. Received this week direct from LI in Croatia. Latest Heads, 2 slims for rear and 2 full-size for fronts and latest CPU version. Full 2-year Unlimited Factory Warranty for those who asked. :D

Cliff - C55

I got mine back in Oct 2007, what different about the new system?

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Someone correct me here but updated Stalker Jam Code and if you had one of the run with the poor head sealant, that too!

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

More will be available from the same site shortly.

[speed-dreams]

More will be available from the same site shortly.
congrats to the new NA distributor

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Thanks!

I am the tentative, new LI Distributor for North America. This may change but I am doing my best to show that I am the best choice for the immediate and near future.

At my suggestion to LI and with their full agreement, I will also keep spare CPUs as well as sensors, for warranty purposes, in stock to finally put an end to the LI Customer Service issues and address the hassle of having to ship and pay for going to Croatia for replacement warrantied parts. Customer Service is paramount! Although I believe they have been all addressed, if you are an LI user who still has heads with the poor sealant problem, you need to contact me ASAP that I may have replacement heads sent to me with the initial shipment! Once I receive your old heads, I will USPS Priority Mail your replacements immediately at my expense!

Upgrades and software changes and development will still be under the rubric of LI in Croatia! Prices will be based on the value, or lack thereof, of The US Dollar versus The Euro so expect price changes accordingly. To get the bad taste out of everyones mouth, I am offering a discount off the LI List prices for a short period and absorbing this myself. I am only selling to buyers in North America (USA, Canada and Mexico) to respect the sales territories of the other Authorized LI Distributors Worldwide. LIs will ship the same day as payment is received pending stock availability.

I too have been following the LI saga as well and have been on the purchaser's end so I know all to well, as we all do, what needs to be done and am going to get it done!

I am available for support, suggestions, comments etc. and to answer questions or addressing problems with the product etc. As to anything regarding sales and out of respect to the Forum, I cannot answer or post that info here. Please see forum rules/guidelines.

Feel free to PM or email me should you have questions.

Cliff - C55
30 Years in the Customer Service Industry!
Laser-Interceptor of North America - Website Coming Soon.

[TSi+WRX]

OK, I'm soooooo confused right now.... :?:

C55 :arrow:

So you're the "distributor," correct? Are you also selling the LI to end-users - i.e., are you a "retailer," as well?

But at the same time, there is a specific "Laser Interceptor USA" website, with a phone contact of 602 area code (Arizona), and with e-mail contact listing that corresponds to Elvis ?

I'm SERIOUSLY confused, at this point.

And yes, I'm still waiting to see about getting a rear UltraSlim setup - but I really need for things - such as this current distribution/retail/resale - issue, to be put to-bed.


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Somebody, please clear this up.

And Ivan/interceptor, I really do think that you need to come here to clear this up as well. Exactly what is going on, here? You've mentioned on another thread that Elvis was and is still in the game, but at the same time, have posted also your PMs with others in which you seem to severely discount Elvis's involvement.

To us end-customers, I hope you can see how confusing this all is - and why it makes us so hesitant to either make purchases or recommendations for the LI. :( :x


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As well, someone PLEASE address these residual questions:

(1) If we do have a "first US batch" (Rev2.7, Ver6.09) LI, but are NOT currently seeing signs that are typical of the water/moisture-ingress problem, should we still return the heads/CPUs ? i.e. will our heads fail, some time down the line, akin to the LPP/AL "time bomb" issue?

(2) For "first US batch" LI purchases - we now have seen issues with jamming of the Stalker LZ-1 on these early models (which were exploited by some less-than-ethical individuals to propagate their own profits). How can we protect ourselves properly against the LZ-1? Should we send our heads and/or control-boxes back to the distributor/retailer for update/upgrade? or is a firmware reflash/update coming soon?




[ Edited for mistake in Rev. number ]

[speed-dreams]

I believe there are two distributor :D

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

I can't speak to Elvis and his relationship with LI. Retailer/distributor is a matter a semantics. :) Buy from whom you desire and who has stock available. :wink: Again, I respect and do not want to violate the Forums Rules so please email or PM me for specifics.

[ahmadr]

At least Cliff's responses look mature, compared to the original "I look cool" responses of Elvis :)

[happya$$]

As the world turns so does our days of our lives :lol: :lol: :lol: This jammer industry cracks me up you have people popping out of nowhere being distributors :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[stealthJamal]

so who is the LI distributor for USA?

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

I believe it is "Like sands through the hour glass, so are the Days of Our Lives".

I am hoping to and my goal is to restore confidence in LI not add to the confusion.

Thanks!

Cliff - C55

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Perhaps it would be best to hear from Ivan and Vedran to satisfy everyone.

Thanks!

Cliff - C55

[happya$$]

Perhaps it would be best to hear from Ivan and Vedran to satisfy everyone.

Thanks!

Cliff - C55

Leon from Blinder only lives miles away he will come over there a whip that a$$ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TSi+WRX]

^ Indeed.

This particular concern, as well as the technical ones (the two that I'd posted as follow-up; which also have been repeatedly asked here on RD.net, as well as appears on the LI Forums themselves [but also remain un-answered there, as well]) would certainly be put to-bed if the LI priciples would simply *definitively* clear up such issues for us.

On a side-note, thanks, Cliff. :) I'm looking forward to this, too.

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

While I have my own thoughts on these inquiries and know how I would handle it, I will ask Vedran these two questions and reply with his response as soon as I have it.

Fair enough?

Thanks!

Cliff - C55

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Actually, I believe that Leon lives in the other coast of Florida!

Cliff - C55

[happya$$]

Actually, I believe that Leon lives in the other coast of Florida!

Cliff - C55

It does not matter where he lives he is an ex UFC champ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[charles charlie charles]

Actually, I believe that Leon lives in the other coast of Florida!

Cliff - C55

It does not matter where he lives he is an ex UFC champ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm an ex KFC champ so we should get it on..... :D

[ELVATO]

Actually, I believe that Leon lives in the other coast of Florida!

Cliff - C55

It does not matter where he lives he is an ex UFC champ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm an ex KFC champ so we should get it on..... :D

KFC?
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/07/0726_globalbrands/image/60_kfc.jpg

[charles charlie charles]

:wink:

[TSi+WRX]

^ :lol:

Thanks for the quick response, C55. :)

Honestly, this kind of Forum presence as well as readiness to tackle the issues is exactly what LI needs, in order to not only re-establish their presence here, stateside, but also to reclaim much of the hobbyist community faith that had been recently tarnished.

[g-zona]

^ Well said! X2!

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

It is my pleasure!

Cliff - C55

[ivva]

this isn't a definite answer, but Ivan said on LI board:

"Elvis is still distro... we are talking to few people for rep-.--"

so this may clear things a bit... still waiting for his post here :D

[TSi+WRX]

^ That's what I meant .... to clarify exactly what's meant between all the different things that Ivan has said about the stateside distribution/retail/resale chain.

On the LI Forums as well as here, Ivan has said that Elvis remains active, stateside. However, at the same time, he's posted mysterious messages on LI to suggest that's not necessarily going to be the case (i.e. "after March 10"), as well as posted PMs that he's exchanged with others which seem to paint a very negative picture of what's going on between him and Elvis.

Yet, at the same time, the "Laser Interceptor USA" website, as-linked off the Laser Interceptor main homepage, points to Elvis as still being the main stateside seller of the LI, with both his e-mail contact as well as a 602-prefix (US - Arizona state) telephone number as the main contact.

I understand that C55 is eager to get things set right, with respect to the position of LI here in the US, to overcome the negativity and to get things back on the ball again.

I am very glad to see this happening (both as an LI user as well as in having always been hopeful of the best from LI), and I think that the LI's principles owe him/his efforts the courtesy of a show-of-support, to come forward and definitively answer the questions and concerns - both regarding the product "selling" chain (to abolish, once and for all, the confusion of "distributor," "retailer," and such terms), as well as the residual technical concerns.

[ivva]

as i understood the main problem with elvis was that he wasn't serious enough as LI rep. for USA... as ivan said in his e-mail to elvis it's a full time job not a few hours a day...
the main thing is to make clear what is a difference between distributor and representative... i think that rep. can be only one and there can be more than one distributor in USA market. and rep. is responsible for all of them (to take care of any problem locally) and then deal with LI directly... correct me if i'm wrong... :o

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Makes perfect sense to me. I am willing to take on the lesser role of the retailer but I am at the beckoned call of the powers at LI.

Thanks!

Cliff - C55

[interceptor]

Nothing has changed since my last post about it...

I love the panic someone has trying to create..

Elvis is distributor, REP place is still open...

Talking to few people, and will be anounced on our web, portal, and forums..

[thestaton]

Perhaps it would be best to hear from Ivan and Vedran to satisfy everyone.

Thanks!

Cliff - C55

Leon from Blinder only lives miles away he will come over there a whip that a$$ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It'll look more like an under the table drug deal. Leon will be buying LI's....

[TSi+WRX]

I love the panic someone has trying to create..


I don't know if you're speaking about me, or someone else, Ivan.

I, for one, am *_NOT_* trying to incite panic.

I am merely stating the obvious - that I, as an LI product user as well as, as far as I can tell, currently-planned future return customer - simply am confused as to who/what is going on.

On the LI Forums as well as here, you implied that something drastic would change after March 10.

Then, when the "Four Horsemen" tried to discredit the LI (and you should remember here that I was among the first to defend the LI as well as the GOL, repeatedly, in many Forums) by also bringing the involvement of Elvis into the picture, your own posts of various PMs brought into question, for ALL of us, whether or not you were continuing your relationship with Elvis.

Later, your posts then seemed to confirm that everything between you and Elvis was - and remains - the same as ever, despite the tones taken in the aforementioned PMs.

Now, a new retailer/reseller/distributor (whatever the terminology, a new "seller") pops up, with, at the time, no announcement of support from the LI principles.

What are we, as the end-customers, supposed to think?

Put yourself in our shoes. Can you not see our confusion?

If you will recall in any and all of my past posts, I've always been a supporter of the LI effort. Certainly, at the beginning, when the product launch here was repeatedly delayed (and when Roy himself locked and then deleted the LI Conference), I did have (and shared) my doubts - but at that time, so did many other of your current customers, of whom I'm also among the mix.

If you'll check other automotive Forums on which I am involved (anything from the USDM BL/BP-chassis Subaru Legacy enthusiast Forum to something as small as my local Subaru enthusiast Forum to something as large as the Edmunds Forums), you will see that I have consistently maintained a factual presentation of the LI efforts.

By far, rest assured, I am not trying to incite any kind of panic.

If you have your doubts about me, you have but to look at *any* of the historical evidence that is recorded in these many forums to paint for you the actual and true picture.

I am simply a customer who has been confused by all the fuss and drama that has surrounded the LI - and I am not alone, there are many both here as well as even on the LI Forums (where again, my participation in helping to answer questions as well as sharing my installation, etc., should signify my position within the LI user community) who share these questions, but have had them fall on deaf ears.

I would simply like for you, the person at the end of all of this, to come forward and clarify such questions and settle our concerns, so that for those of us who make recommendations to others, we can do so with a clear understanding of what's going on, as well as for those of us who are looking to be repeat customers, to have, in our hearts, content in knowing that we will be buying from trustworthy sources.

Stop thinking that everyone - including your customers - is out to get you. You've repeatedly engaged in hostilities between yourself and customers who simply have honest and true questions (recall your spats with charles charlie charles, do you now, finally, see that he simply had questions?).

Yes, undoubtedly, some people will have their own agenda - but the vast majority of your paying customers, such as myself, simply want a product that works well, and simply want to know that we will enjoy proper support, down the road.

Don't fall to the level of those individuals - don't fall prey to the drama.

Look at what the actual questions are, and address them, please, so that we can continue to be happy customers, and know that we enjoy the support of the entire LI team.

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

For those of you who asked about more of these, a search on Flea-bay will answer your question.

Cliff - C55

[Elvis]

Nope! Bought three, only installing two of them. Just have the one Quad unit remaining. Received this week direct from LI in Croatia. Latest Heads, 2 slims for rear and 2 full-size for fronts and latest CPU version. Full 2-year Unlimited Factory Warranty for those who asked. :D

Cliff - C55

So cliff, are you a north american dealer or what answer the question...?
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Nope! Bought three, only installing two of them. Just have the one Quad unit remaining. Received this week direct from LI in Croatia. Latest Heads, 2 slims for rear and 2 full-size for fronts and latest CPU version. Full 2-year Unlimited Factory Warranty for those who asked. Very Happy

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[TSi+WRX]

OK, I don't like causing trouble. :oops:

But someone, please, from the LI team - clarify this one for us.

It seems that C55 and Elvis have some sort of dispute.

Exactly who are we supposed to take our business to, here, stateside?

Elvis has always maintained that he's the go-to-guy, here in the US. And despite some publicized PMs/e-mails from Ivan, in the past, that more than hinted at problems, Ivan has very recently re-vested Elvis, both with public declaration of affiliation as well as with a spot on the Laser Interceptor Forums.

C55 is a known fixture around here as a true hobbyist and enthusiast - however, he burst onto the scene one day as an eBay LI reseller, and when the issue came to-light here, claimed that he'd been tapped as the new US distributor - to which the LI team has yet to vest/confirm....

Please, Ivan/LI team, for the sake of your customers here (and please note that I am *not* trying to create trouble - I'm a repeat LI customer, myself, and simply want to know what to do both should I ever have any trouble with my LI units, as well as who to take my future business to), clear this up for us. :!:

[Elvis]

Nothing has changed since my last post about it...

I love the panic someone has trying to create..

Elvis is distributor, REP place is still open...

Talking to few people, and will be anounced on our web, portal, and forums..


As far as I am concerned I really do not like dealing with Cliff as I have attempted numerous times but he is a shunner, just waiting to get into LI for his own misguided aspirations. He is not a team player and I have nothing good to say about him. I hope Ivan sees this and reconsiders future operations with this individual. Elvis

[Elvis]

OK, I don't like causing trouble. :oops:

But someone, please, from the LI team - clarify this one for us.

It seems that C55 and Elvis have some sort of dispute.

Exactly who are we supposed to take our business to, here, stateside?

Elvis has always maintained that he's the go-to-guy, here in the US. And despite some publicized PMs/e-mails from Ivan, in the past, that more than hinted at problems, Ivan has very recently re-vested Elvis, both with public declaration of affiliation as well as with a spot on the Laser Interceptor Forums.

C55 is a known fixture around here as a true hobbyist and enthusiast - however, he burst onto the scene one day as an eBay LI reseller, and when the issue came to-light here, claimed that he'd been tapped as the new US distributor - to which the LI team has yet to vest/confirm....

Please, Ivan/LI team, for the sake of your customers here (and please note that I am *not* trying to create trouble - I'm a repeat LI customer, myself, and simply want to know what to do both should I ever have any trouble with my LI units, as well as who to take my future business to), clear this up for us. :!:

As stated above..Ebay is not the place to do business. if cliff wants LI to do well he should have not posted on ebay to begin with trying bargain prices and create business in a non-professional way...but hey if he wants a price war I will beat his price EVERY time so the customer will win which is good... Competition is the American way.. He has no stock and can't get much at any given time. I can beat his prices and provide customer support, I am all for that. If Cliff wants to play we can play... Elvis

[charles charlie charles]

Frankly this dick fight on a public forum does little for LI's credibility.

If you guys had any sense you'd sort this behind the scenes and work on improving the LI's reputation.

[happya$$]

I just want to say thinks Cliff for the outstanding price and service you gave me :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[g-zona]

I just want to say thinks Cliff for the outstanding price and service you gave me :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This only adds oil to the fire.... It should be taken off public scene....

[PMoth]

This is BS!!! Why resort to these tactics? This type of crap should be handled through PMs.

[happya$$]

I just want to say thinks Cliff for the outstanding price and service you gave me :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This only adds oil to the fire.... It should be taken off public scene....

I know I was joking :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Elvis]

This may be beating a dead horse, but I really don't know who cliff is or what if any affiliation he has with Laser Interceptor. I have attempted to contact him and ask him with no response other than he is the one posting sales on other sites. For all I know he is posing as a rep. ELVIS

[TSi+WRX]

It should be taken off public scene....


Frankly this dick fight on a public forum does little for LI's credibility.

If you guys had any sense you'd sort this behind the scenes and work on improving the LI's reputation.

+ 1 to both.

This needs to be sorted out privately, by the powers-that-be at LI, *_ASAP_*, and a public announcement made immediately thereafter.

The confusion stateside needs to stop, NOW, particularly after the initial-run debacle.

[rsatmans]

Initial run debacle is right. I'm still trying to get mine replaced 3 months and counting.

[charles charlie charles]

Initial run debacle is right. I'm still trying to get mine replaced 3 months and counting.

Who did you buy from? Elvis or direct from Ivan in Croatia?

[rsatmans]

Ivan

[charles charlie charles]

Sorry to hear of your troubles mate.

Have you PM'd Elvis to see if he can help you out? I appreciate you didnt buy from him originally so he's under no obligation but he may be willing to put this right.

Worth a try since Ivan etc appear to have disappeared for a long summer holiday....

I do hope you get sorted soon. Good luck

[KnightHawk]

So C55 is the "go to" guy now in the US? Man..... I'm just so confused..... :( :( :( :( :( :( I just hope this CS thing will be sorted out.

[Rottman]

Initial run debacle is right. I'm still trying to get mine replaced 3 months and counting. Man would i be pissed...

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

See here:

http://85.125.82.130/LaserInterceptor/smf/index.php?topic=285.new#new

[Hessen]

See here:

http://85.125.82.130/LaserInterceptor/smf/index.php?topic=285.new#new

So you are now the "Official" North American rep.

Man Alive what a Dysfunctional Mess LI is.

:roll:

[Blown Z]

Is LI able to do a press release so to speak to clear all this up?

[TSi+WRX]

^ I think that's all that we're waiting for - something "official."

But until then, I think it's pretty clear from reading the posts on the LI Forums that indeed, C55 is, unofficially, official !

[Elvis]

See here:

http://85.125.82.130/LaserInterceptor/smf/index.php?topic=285.new#new

So you are now the "Official" North American rep.

Man Alive what a Dysfunctional Mess LI is.

:roll:

Yes dysfunctional..I would have to agree especially when we have no shipment coming in to replace people...like the U.S. Distributor..maybe this will light a fire in those people over seas and treat the new rep better...read below.


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Hey elvis..

This is your subforum..

It is not public, only LI TEam and you can acces it.

Post your orders, trackings and rest of stuff here..

Ivan JR is in the team, so dont wory... it is ok to work with him,...


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Hello Elvis,
Vedran told me that you sent faulty heads and CPUs before a week ago?!
Did you send it by FedEx?
I know for your new order and I belive it will be shipped to you until Friday!
Are you satisfied or we need to hurry up?



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Quote from: Ivan JR on April 16, 2008, 10:01:31 PM
Just sent it and there is reply!


IVAN JR.. THE SHIPMENT BACK IS UNACCEPTABLE AND NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF ...I PAID ONCE AND NEED YOU TO PAY FOR THE SHIPPING BACK SO THAT I HAVE STOCK TO GET TO PEOPLE..... SO I CAN SEND THEM BACK NOW..I NEED YOUR SHIPPING FEDEX NUMBER.. ELVIS




As one can see, I have tried to get shipment to you and have yet to receive my 18 replacement units from Croatia, Ivan jr, or Vedran. Hope cliff does better with them... ELVIS


OVER A MONTH AND STILL COUNTING.........

[demetri]

Quote from: Ivan JR on April 16, 2008, 10:01:31 PM
Just sent it and there is reply!


IVAN JR.. THE SHIPMENT BACK IS UNACCEPTABLE AND NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF ...I PAID ONCE AND NEED YOU TO PAY FOR THE SHIPPING BACK SO THAT I HAVE STOCK TO GET TO PEOPLE..... SO I CAN SEND THEM BACK NOW..I NEED YOUR SHIPPING FEDEX NUMBER.. ELVIS




As one can see, I have tried to get shipment to you and have yet to receive my 18 replacement units from Croatia, Ivan jr, or Vedran. Hope cliff does better with them... ELVIS


OVER A MONTH AND STILL COUNTING.........


wow, so youre making your US customers wait until Ivan pays shipping?

you know what infighting does to a company? answer;



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[Elvis]

Quote from: Ivan JR on April 16, 2008, 10:01:31 PM
Just sent it and there is reply!


IVAN JR.. THE SHIPMENT BACK IS UNACCEPTABLE AND NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF ...I PAID ONCE AND NEED YOU TO PAY FOR THE SHIPPING BACK SO THAT I HAVE STOCK TO GET TO PEOPLE..... SO I CAN SEND THEM BACK NOW..I NEED YOUR SHIPPING FEDEX NUMBER.. ELVIS




As one can see, I have tried to get shipment to you and have yet to receive my 18 replacement units from Croatia, Ivan jr, or Vedran. Hope cliff does better with them... ELVIS


OVER A MONTH AND STILL COUNTING.........


wow, so youre making your US customers wait until Ivan pays shipping?

you know what infighting does to a company? answer;



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I SENT THEM BACK ALREADY AND THEY ARE SITTING IN A POST OFFICE AND HAVE NOT BEEN PICKED UP BY THE LI TEAM...I AM GETTING HIT WITH NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT NEED REPLACEMENTS AND I NEED REPLACEMENTS. NO REPLACEMENT UNITS HAVE BEEN SENT. THE ONLY UNITS I HAVE REPLACED PEOPLE WITH IS FROM MY OWN BATCH THAT I PAY FOR. WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THIS TYPE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE? I CAN NO LONGER PAY FOR EVERYBODY'S REPLACEMENTS WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING BACK AND THE COMPANY TO REPLACE THOSE THAT I HAVE REPLACED. ELVIS

[demetri]

right.

infighting.

[Elvis]

right.

infighting.

just facts...

[interceptor]

Ivan

You HAVE NOT GET THEM FROM ME (Ivan) but from LI TEAM in CROATIA.

You will get your replacements from new LI rep/distro.

[Elvis]

Ivan

You HAVE NOT GET THEM FROM ME (Ivan) but from LI TEAM in CROATIA.

You will get your replacements from new LI rep/distro.

When will I get them (18 units)? Thats all I ask....I know the LI Team in Croatia loses stuff and does not pick stuff up according to them Thats not the right way of doing business. I need my product I paid for more than a month ago that was returned to your team over there . Cliff can you advise on this??????? Seems the buck is passed off to you now. Hope this is not more lip service and they gave you plenty to take care of me and all the other customers coming your way. Somehow I don't think so. We will see. Until then this hound dog will represent the people and himself in trying to get this company to take care of its customers and distributors.

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

I have been working on this for the last 12 hours! You have my word, you will not be left out to dry! Please stand by!

Thank you!

[thestaton]

Cliff & Elvis big ups for trying to do what's right.

[TSi+WRX]

^ +1. Totally! :D

[rsatmans]

Cliff is really working hard to try and restore LI's Credibility in the US marketplace. Now only if Ivan, Vedran, & Ivan Jr would do the same. I sure hope Ivan has a good reason for disappearing for such a long time. Because software that was promised to be finalized 6 months ago is still not completed. I still have Broken Heads (Which Cliff Is trying to take care of). Not to mention others who have also suffered because of his absence. Just because of the lack of customer service LI has almost lost all potential buyers to other systems like PASS and the ZR4. I have no doubt that LI is a stronger performer. I mean look PASS says that you need 3 heads for JTG. LI is JTG with 2 no question. I only hope team LI hasn't waited to long to try and fix this mess.

[Elvis]

Cliff is really working hard to try and restore LI's Credibility in the US marketplace. Now only if Ivan, Vedran, & Ivan Jr would do the same. I sure hope Ivan has a good reason for disappearing for such a long time. Because software that was promised to be finalized 6 months ago is still not completed. I still have Broken Heads (Which Cliff Is trying to take care of). Not to mention others who have also suffered because of his absence. Just because of the lack of customer service LI has almost lost all potential buyers to other systems like PASS and the ZR4. I have no doubt that LI is a stronger performer. I mean look PASS says that you need 3 heads for JTG. LI is JTG with 2 no question. I only hope team LI hasn't waited to long to try and fix this mess.

Very true.. I hope cliff can get them in gear over there and can have supply on hand to do the right kind of business with proper support from the Croatia Team. They are butting heads over there and who knows who is in charge. They sure don't. Whatever it takes I will not relent until 3 things happen.

A. They treat the American market right and supply people, i.e. distributors
B. They stop making excuses as to why their supply is 'somewhere" in a post office because they won't pick it up with bribe money.
C. They take care of their customers whatever it takes...Bottom line.

Until this happens I will say whats on my mind...and if I am a whistle blower so be it. "We the people..."

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Gentlemen,

I am working to make all the past LI CS and QC problems a thing of the past. The QC issues are behind us now and as the Countermeasures Community already knows well, was do to a poor batch of sealant that another well known Competitor also suffered from. I too had to send back my AL G8 head to be replaced as well as my LI.

As to the CS issues, I am here and while I do not expect the Community to forget the past indiscretions, you have my personal assurances and my word that all these issue are a thing of the past and with me at the helm, it will be steady sailing for LI-USA and it's customers, irregardless of whom you purchased from.

With that said, I am asking for those with any CS or QC issues to contact me and I will personally see to your complete satisfaction that your concerns are addressed immediately and without any unnecessary impedances.

To that end, I have already been in contact with all those who have been neglected and am making them whole again with replacement sensors or in some cases, completely new LI units. I am also requiring that LI-Croatia provide a supply of Warranty ONLY parts for LI-USA to have on hand so the delay from Warranty Claim to replacement is 24 hours.

This could not be accomplished by myself alone and I must also thank LI-Team Croatia, Vedran, Ivan Jr. Ivan, Javor, Ivva and Sam, our LI-Taiwan partner for their invaluable help and consul.

Thank you,

Cliff - C55

[Hessen]

They are butting heads over there and who knows who is in charge. They sure don't. Whatever it takes I will not relent until 3 things happen.

A. They treat the American market right and supply people, i.e. distributors
B. They stop making excuses as to why their supply is 'somewhere" in a post office because they won't pick it up with bribe money.
C. They take care of their customers whatever it takes...Bottom line.

Until this happens I will say whats on my mind...and if I am a whistle blower so be it. "We the people..."

Well let me add this, as politically incorrect as it is, this probably needs to be said.

LI is based in the former Yugoslavia. I being born in Europe, and who frequently travels there, have been to this region numerous times. It is heaven on earth, absolutely beautiful. Unfortunately it is populated by zealots and maniacs that are hell bent on destroying it.

The systemic criminality and corruption is so embedded in the very fiber of the ethnic groups there that Ivan’s answer and total arrogance do not surprise me. This is who they are.

The main reason I did not buy an AL is I will not do business with anyone that is based in the former Yugoslavia. Same deal with LI.

Look at the absolute joke LI is from a business stand point, infighting, name calling, lying, ignoring questions etc. That’s how business is done over in that region.

The people there would sooner slit your throat than admit they were wrong.

It’s a 3rd world country, always has been always will be

[g-zona]

Cliff is really working hard to try and restore LI's Credibility in the US marketplace. Now only if Ivan, Vedran, & Ivan Jr would do the same. I sure hope Ivan has a good reason for disappearing for such a long time. Because software that was promised to be finalized 6 months ago is still not completed. I still have Broken Heads (Which Cliff Is trying to take care of). Not to mention others who have also suffered because of his absence. Just because of the lack of customer service LI has almost lost all potential buyers to other systems like PASS and the ZR4. I have no doubt that LI is a stronger performer. I mean look PASS says that you need 3 heads for JTG. LI is JTG with 2 no question. I only hope team LI hasn't waited to long to try and fix this mess.

Very true.. I hope cliff can get them in gear over there and can have supply on hand to do the right kind of business with proper support from the Croatia Team. They are butting heads over there and who knows who is in charge. They sure don't. Whatever it takes I will not relent until 3 things happen.

A. They treat the American market right and supply people, i.e. distributors
B. They stop making excuses as to why their supply is 'somewhere" in a post office because they won't pick it up with bribe money.
C. They take care of their customers whatever it takes...Bottom line.

Until this happens I will say whats on my mind...and if I am a whistle blower so be it. "We the people..."

Tracking no. of your package with 18 units is:

And from the old topic, maybe we could reopen it again and continue about your CS....

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=379407#379407

[Elvis]

Cliff is really working hard to try and restore LI's Credibility in the US marketplace. Now only if Ivan, Vedran, & Ivan Jr would do the same. I sure hope Ivan has a good reason for disappearing for such a long time. Because software that was promised to be finalized 6 months ago is still not completed. I still have Broken Heads (Which Cliff Is trying to take care of). Not to mention others who have also suffered because of his absence. Just because of the lack of customer service LI has almost lost all potential buyers to other systems like PASS and the ZR4. I have no doubt that LI is a stronger performer. I mean look PASS says that you need 3 heads for JTG. LI is JTG with 2 no question. I only hope team LI hasn't waited to long to try and fix this mess.

Very true.. I hope cliff can get them in gear over there and can have supply on hand to do the right kind of business with proper support from the Croatia Team. They are butting heads over there and who knows who is in charge. They sure don't. Whatever it takes I will not relent until 3 things happen.

A. They treat the American market right and supply people, i.e. distributors
B. They stop making excuses as to why their supply is 'somewhere" in a post office because they won't pick it up with bribe money.
C. They take care of their customers whatever it takes...Bottom line.

Until this happens I will say whats on my mind...and if I am a whistle blower so be it. "We the people..."

Tracking no. of your package with 18 units is:

And from the old topic, maybe we could reopen it again and continue about your CS....

Yes lets do..here is a pm from ivan jr saying he returned the units...ya riiiight.. to where? If I did not send them how could he return them..DUHHH



Ivan JR
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Re: Shipment
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I have returned the package with faulty heads and some CPU s that you sent to us by regular mail because we had problems with our custom. So it means I cant send the package that I didnt recive by FedEx. In package that we sent to you on Friday are 20 slim heads that you bought, Ursulas dual head sistem and extra two heads for that guy Doug (on forum registerd like Snizzle). I asked you to send him those two heads when you recie this package. Than he told me that he has already sent you whole system(2 heads and CPU) so I told you to take that CPU that you have and pack him with these heads I sent you in this package and return him his unit.
I hope you understand now, if not feel free to ask!
Regards,
Ivan JR


SO NOW YOU SEE HE DID GET THEM BUT REFUSED THEM..BRIBE MONEY WAS TOO MUCH...SHALL I POST THAT ONE TOO. I CAN..GZONA YOU HAVE NO BACKING FOR YOUR BROS OVER THERE SO BUD OUT BUD. I will continue to improve CS through opening of your eyes of the people for the people by the people.. "We the people..."

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=379407#379407

[Elvis]

Cliff is really working hard to try and restore LI's Credibility in the US marketplace. Now only if Ivan, Vedran, & Ivan Jr would do the same. I sure hope Ivan has a good reason for disappearing for such a long time. Because software that was promised to be finalized 6 months ago is still not completed. I still have Broken Heads (Which Cliff Is trying to take care of). Not to mention others who have also suffered because of his absence. Just because of the lack of customer service LI has almost lost all potential buyers to other systems like PASS and the ZR4. I have no doubt that LI is a stronger performer. I mean look PASS says that you need 3 heads for JTG. LI is JTG with 2 no question. I only hope team LI hasn't waited to long to try and fix this mess.

Very true.. I hope cliff can get them in gear over there and can have supply on hand to do the right kind of business with proper support from the Croatia Team. They are butting heads over there and who knows who is in charge. They sure don't. Whatever it takes I will not relent until 3 things happen.

A. They treat the American market right and supply people, i.e. distributors
B. They stop making excuses as to why their supply is 'somewhere" in a post office because they won't pick it up with bribe money.
C. They take care of their customers whatever it takes...Bottom line.

Until this happens I will say whats on my mind...and if I am a whistle blower so be it. "We the people..."

Tracking no. of your package with 18 units is:

And from the old topic, maybe we could reopen it again and continue about your CS....

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=379407#379407



Please read every part of this letter ie. shipment problems..finally got a hold response from you ivan etc...sent numerous emails..etc they don't respond....

SO NOW YOU SEE HE DID GET THEM BUT REFUSED THEM..BRIBE MONEY WAS TOO MUCH...SHALL I POST THAT ONE TOO. I CAN..GZONA YOU HAVE NO BACKING FOR YOUR BROS OVER THERE SO BUD OUT BUD. I will continue to improve CS through opening of your eyes of the people for the people by the people.. "We the people..."

[g-zona]

You have started it on the forum, why not going out with whole story and finish it, instead of stretching it all over across a dozen topics. Make one with whole story.

[Elvis]

You have started it on the forum, why not going out with whole story and finish it, instead of stretching it all over across a dozen topics. Make one with whole story.

If I need to I will.. But for now I will take a break and let Cliff sort out things. Hope he does better with them over there than I. Peace, ELVIS

[interceptor]

no need to.

Elvis have resigned on his function.

Cliff is taking over.

That is it.

I love your interpretations of my posts, just show me excatly what i am looking in the movies.