Original passport?

[GnarMachine]

Is this radar detector still any good? I found one for $40 and it seems as if it can be concealed and not mounted on the windshield, or am I wrong about that? Is this thing still current? I know it's an older device but just how old is it?

Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated!

[hockey005]

like original 8500? or wat

[GnarMachine]

Nope, just a passport. I attached an image of it, I figure it's probably a bit too old to be useful but I'd rather not have a window mounted unit because while it is not illegal it is frowned upon here, and as a young driver if a cop sees it they will try to look for a reason to pull me over.
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4589/unknownlc6.png (http://imageshack.us)

[hockey005]

No do not get that! if its legal but frowned upon u can always hardwire your RD high so leos cant see it..but wat ever u do dont get the passport..i dont even no wat that is

[Straßenkrieger]

Whoa. Where did you get that.

[hockey005]

Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR (http://www.guysoflidar.com) will give u all the info u need on selecting a good RD..but seeing htat ur from mass (laser is used mostly in mass) u might wanna look into a laser jammer

[jerry540i]

Nope, just a passport. I attached an image of it, I figure it's probably a bit too old to be useful but I'd rather not have a window mounted unit because while it is not illegal it is frowned upon here, and as a young driver if a cop sees it they will try to look for a reason to pull me over.
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4589/unknownlc6.png (http://imageshack.us)



What an amazing detector (if this were 1986!!!)


I've got to laugh at some of the younger members on this forum who have no idea what they're looking at !! (kinda reminds me of my nephew--5 years old--who asked me where to "stick in" the record I was gonna play on my turntable....


Anyway...the passport you're showing was the benchmark back in the 80's and early 90's. It was the clearly the best detector in its day for detecting X and K band.

Problem is, today the vast majority of radar is in the Ka band and not detected by this passport. As well, this detector does not have laser detection, another very common type of police speed enforcement equipment.

So, in short, this detector is no longer useful today.

J/

[jimbonzzz]

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/728/passporttk6.jpg
:lol:

[hockey005]

:eek: thats a lot of passports!

[<<JAZZY>>]

Nope, just a passport. I attached an image of it, I figure it's probably a bit too old to be useful but I'd rather not have a window mounted unit because while it is not illegal it is frowned upon here, and as a young driver if a cop sees it they will try to look for a reason to pull me over.
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4589/unknownlc6.png (http://imageshack.us)

That's old and useless but not as old and useless as these.

The Radar Detector Museum (http://www.guysoflidar.com/museum/)

[GnarMachine]

I figured it would be too old, and I got a laugh out of some or your responses as well. Anyways I guess if laser is mostly user where I live (didn't know that) then a laser jammer would be a good idea, but aren't they fairly expensive, and illegal?

Thanks again!

[djrams80]

There are currently no know laws that prohibit laser jammers in Massachusetts:

USA Laser Jammer Laws - Guys of LIDAR (http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html)

Here are the know radar and laser usages for your area:


Massachusetts (thanks cincyreds, kevblah, StlouisX50, Sufu)

Arrlington: Laser
Brookline: Laser
Nahant: K, Ka
South Attleboro: K, Ka (updated 04/28/2008)
State Troopers: K, KA and Laser but mostly Laser (I think LTi Ultralytes). The newer Crown Vic's use Ka, and theres one unmarked tinted out Impala SS that uses Ka. This is mostly through Rt2/128. (updated 05/13/2008)


http://www.radardetector.net/forums/speed-trap-info/33306-radar-bands-town-updated-5-23-08-a.html

[GnarMachine]

Thanks for the quick response, good to know they are not illegal, but are they expensive? Also how would I go about hardwiring in a radar detector? And is that something I could do with a bel vector 995?

[MEM-TEK]

Thanks for the quick response, good to know they are not illegal, but are they expensive? Also how would I go about hardwiring in a radar detector? And is that something I could do with a bel vector 995?

Radar Roy has a posted video showing how to hardwire a Bel or Escort RD. All of the Vectors can be hardwired. Escort now sells their new ZR4 laser detection and shifter system which will also connect to the Escort products and to the Bel products. The ZR4 also will connect directly to a V995 using the supplied but fairly short RJ-11 phone cord. Instead you might need to use a longer standard RJ-11 phone cord if necessary so that you can route the cord from the ZR4's interface module (located under your dash) along the A pillar and then across the top of the window and over to the V995. This way you can have the V995 mounted up high for good radar detection which also helps to hide it from thieves since you can mount it just below the front windshield's top tint strip. If you need a longer phone cord than what is supplied with the ZR4, use a quality cord which has adequately thick wires. Radio Shack still sells quality phone cords.

[GnarMachine]

Radar Roy has a posted video showing how to hardwire a Bel or Escort RD. All of the Vectors can be hardwired. Escort now sells their new ZR4 laser detection and shifter system which will also connect to the Escort products and to the Bel products. The ZR4 also will connect directly to a V995 using the supplied but fairly short RJ-11 phone cord. Instead you might need to use a longer standard RJ-11 phone cord if necessary so that you can route the cord from the ZR4's interface module (located under your dash) along the A pillar and then across the top of the window and over to the V995. This way you can have the V995 mounted up high for good radar detection which also helps to hide it from thieves since you can mount it just below the front windshield's top tint strip. If you need a longer phone cord than what is supplied with the ZR4, use a quality cord which has adequately thick wires. Radio Shack still sells quality phone cords.

So if I buy a ZR4 I can connect the bel directly to it, but I would still have to have the unit window mounted right? Also I'm confused by the description on escort's website, is the ZR4 a laser jammer? And is it as good as the blinder series?

Is there an inexpensive radar unit that can be mounted out of sight (as in not window mounted)?

[djrams80]

So if I buy a ZR4 I can connect the bel directly to it, but I would still have to have the unit window mounted right?The Bel RD would still be mounted in the exact same place as it is now. It would just have an extra cord coming from it to the ZR4 control module. The laser jammer heads are then mounted outside the vehicle in LEO laser target areas, such as the front grill, license plate area.
Also I'm confused by the description on escort's website, is the ZR4 a laser jammer?Yes. The word "shifter" is just a polically correct way to say jammer. You'd be surprised how well this works. L.A.'s biggest stereo installation chain sells shifters, but is not allowed to sell jammers. :D
And is it as good as the blinder series?No one knows yet. GOL should be doing their annual laser jammer tests pretty soon. We, as a board, have been waiting patiently for their results, since there are lots of new products on the market. They keep their testing dates and locations secret to avoid tampering, but we're all hoping they are soon. They are very well respected(most of them at least:D) and the most unbiased testing group out there. Their members are all RD.net members also. Here is their home page:

Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR (http://www.guysoflidar.com/)


Is there an inexpensive radar unit that can be mounted out of sight (as in not window mounted)?Not that's any good. The Bel STi-R and the Escort 9500ci are the two best and are both extremely expensive. The Escort SR7, SRX and the Bel RX75, which are the same radar detection wise, are good, but a little outdated and are very easily detected by LEO RDDs(radar detector detectors), called Spectre. Cobra makes a cheap remote unit, but all Cobra RDs are very bad on Ka band radar, which is the most popular band out there. Having one will not supply adequate protection, especially against Ka band.

[ejames7]

..i dont even no wat that is

lmao. It's like Escorts version of SEGA genesis. I bet some of my NES games would fit in it.

[AirMoore]

Actually I own two of those detectors (My dads) and on K-band the one is very near identical to the Vector series of detectors from Bel.


With that said, its useless because the Ka/Laser threats now... for 40bucks in mint shape its a gem to have.


But really though... if its still in good working order... it will really be just a step behind todays big dogs (in real world) performance on K band in my experience.

[GnarMachine]

The Bel RD would still be mounted in the exact same place as it is now. It would just have an extra cord coming from it to the ZR4 control module. The laser jammer heads are then mounted outside the vehicle in LEO laser target areas, such as the front grill, license plate area.Yes. The word "shifter" is just a polically correct way to say jammer. You'd be surprised how well this works. L.A.'s biggest stereo installation chain sells shifters, but is not allowed to sell jammers. :D No one knows yet. GOL should be doing their annual laser jammer tests pretty soon. We, as a board, have been waiting patiently for their results, since there are lots of new products on the market. They keep their testing dates and locations secret to avoid tampering, but we're all hoping they are soon. They are very well respected(most of them at least:D) and the most unbiased testing group out there. Their members are all RD.net members also. Here is their home page:

Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR (http://www.guysoflidar.com/)

Not that's any good. The Bel STi-R and the Escort 9500ci are the two best and are both extremely expensive. The Escort SR7, SRX and the Bel RX75, which are the same radar detection wise, are good, but a little outdated and are very easily detected by LEO RDDs(radar detector detectors), called Spectre. Cobra makes a cheap remote unit, but all Cobra RDs are very bad on Ka band radar, which is the most popular band out there. Having one will not supply adequate protection, especially against Ka band.

Thanks again, I'm going to go ahead and buy an almost brand new bel vector 995 (found one for $130) and wait for the tests and possibly buy some sort of jammer unit as well.

Everyone has been really helpful, this is definitely one of the best forums I've been on in terms of a huge knowledge base and having my questions answered perfectly. So thanks again to everybody.

[fire65]

Still very cool for us old guys. Back then RD worked great. Cops just turned it on and didnt care. That was one fine detector.

[SmaartAasSaabr]

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/728/passporttk6.jpg
:lol:

You have to be careful what kind of words you use to describe that, you might get Homeland Security bust in your house looking for those hundred passports you have :lol:

[MEM-TEK]

You have to be careful what kind of words you use to describe that, you might get Homeland Security bust in your house looking for those hundred passports you have :lol:

ROLF! My legs and arms are jerking from laughter like a dog getting his tummy scratched!

[RanEnRui]

There are currently no know laws that prohibit laser jammers in Massachusetts:

USA Laser Jammer Laws - Guys of LIDAR (http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html)

Here are the know radar and laser usages for your area:




http://www.radardetector.net/forums/speed-trap-info/33306-radar-bands-town-updated-5-23-08-a.html

Goodness, I had no idea it had escalated (?) to that degree. All of the surrounding states from here (NC) have made it illegal. :O