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focalcivic
09-12-2008, 05:31 PM
Say for instance I mount the 9500ci remote antenna on a bracket like a windshield detector behind my rearview mirror up high, do you think thieves will think it is a reg detector and try to steal it not knowing? Or will think it is like a EZ pass toll box, or will not know what it is.

The reason I am asking is it still can be seen from the outside of the car esp from the front.

ac4vette
09-12-2008, 06:14 PM
I think a thief, who by nature and definition, is a worthless POS, who will steal any thing they think is of value.

djrams80
09-12-2008, 06:18 PM
I think a thief, who by nature and definition, is a worthless POS, who will steal any thing they think is of value.Agreed. Most thieves don't spend much time assessing the value of whatever it is they intend to steal. They just take it. If the radar antenna is obvious, it is in danger of being stolen.

hockey005
09-12-2008, 06:46 PM
that would be a good idea tho..mount it high for 20+ mile c/o Ka pick ups

category4
09-12-2008, 07:10 PM
I think a thief, who by nature and definition, is a worthless POS, who will steal any thing they think is of value.

I agree, I don't think they think, they just take an opportunity and go for it. My Fiance left her car unlocked they other night and someone stole the change in the center console, left the V1 and 2 sets of golf clubs alone!!!

Glad I had just installed the invisicord on the V1 because that has to be the only reason they missed it, because it was not powered up.

Don't sweat what a thief will do, if they want it they will find a way to get it.

You could try the alarm system I use in the Vette, an empty holster left on the dash so they know the owner is packing!! :D

ac4vette
09-12-2008, 07:56 PM
I agree, I don't think they think, they just take an opportunity and go for it. My Fiance left her car unlocked they other night and someone stole the change in the center console, left the V1 and 2 sets of golf clubs alone!!!

Glad I had just installed the invisicord on the V1 because that has to be the only reason they missed it, because it was not powered up.

Don't sweat what a thief will do, if they want it they will find a way to get it.

You could try the alarm system I use in the Vette, an empty holster left on the dash so they know the owner is packing!! :D

Nice C6
Are you active on The Corvette Forum?

MEM-TEK
09-12-2008, 08:09 PM
Focalcivic, I've tested my 9500ci for long enough now to realize that mounting it low in the grille has very little effect on its performance as long as it is unobstructed. Its just a matter of tweaking the angle of the antenna to ideally match its lower mounting location. This will solve your theif problem too. Here is a good example:

I was sitting in traffic near the local chicken plant which has an X band door opener. My 9500ci antenna, mounted low and optimally angled with regards to tilt, was occasionally alerting to X band radar whereas my high mounted 9500i was not at all. Yet my 9500ci's antenna was being blocked from a direct line of site view towards the X band antenna location by the car in front of me! Likewise, my grille mounted 9500ci antenna always beats out either my high windshield mounted STi or 9500i in alerting to K band radar sources around town by up to 15 seconds while driving around town.

ac4vette
09-12-2008, 08:20 PM
Focalcivic, I've tested my 9500ci for long enough now to realize that mounting it low in the grille has very little effect on its performance as long as it is unobstructed. Its just a matter of tweaking the angle of the antenna to ideally match its lower mounting location. This will solve your theif problem too. Here is a good example:

I was sitting in traffic near the local chicken plant which has an X band door opener. My 9500ci antenna, mounted low and optimally angled with regards to tilt, was occasionally alerting to X band radar whereas my high mounted 9500i was not at all. Yet my 9500ci's antenna was being blocked from a direct line of site view towards the X band antenna location by the car in front of me! Likewise, my grille mounted 9500ci antenna always beats out either my high windshield mounted STi or 9500i in alerting to K band radar sources around town by up to 15 seconds while driving around town.

I wonder about using "Lord" type rubber mounts and a large capacitor hooked up to the mount, they would think twice about grabbing it the second time.:D

On a more serious note, how did you determine the optimum angle for antenna?

swarga
09-12-2008, 08:23 PM
that would be a good idea tho..mount it high for 20+ mile c/o Ka pick ups

And a 1/4 mile ramp-up. http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif

djrams80
09-12-2008, 08:28 PM
And a 1/4 mile ramp-up. http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif
I have a feeling that the zombies won't have this "talking point" for very much longer.

swarga
09-12-2008, 08:30 PM
I have a feeling that the zombies won't have this "talking point" for very much longer.

I honestly hope you're right. It's perhaps the only flaw in an awesome detector.

In the meantime, I plan to milk it for all it's worth. :D

djrams80
09-12-2008, 08:32 PM
I honestly hope you're right. It's perhaps the only flaw in an awesome detector.

In the meantime, I plan to milk it for all it's worth. :DLaugh it up, fuzzball. :D

MEM-TEK
09-12-2008, 09:01 PM
I wonder about using "Lord" type rubber mounts and a large capacitor hooked up to the mount, they would think twice about grabbing it the second time.:D

On a more serious note, how did you determine the optimum angle for antenna?

The STi antenna (used in the 9500ci and in the STi-R) has a predominantly downward flare. Mounting any of these antennas high on a windshield, the best angle is a totally level case. For the 9500ci or STi-R antenna, this assumes that you have the case oriented such that the serial number sticker is on top.

When mounting a 9500ci or STi-R antenna in a car grille which is 2 to 3 feet off the ground then,

Antenna sticker side up:

-- Adjust the angle of the case such that the front of the antenna is tilted up between 2 to 8 degrees -- 5 degrees being optimal.

Antenna sticker side down:

-- Adjust the angle of the case such that the front of the antenna is tilted down between 2 to 8 degrees -- 5 degrees being optimal.

If your 9500ci or STi antenna is mounted lower than 2 feet off the ground, then use the above but note that theoretically 6 or 7 degrees would be optimal.

:)

Stealth Stalker
09-12-2008, 09:10 PM
I honestly hope you're right. It's perhaps the only flaw in an awesome detector.
Only flaw? I count several others, price and crappy shifter notwithstanding.

djrams80
09-12-2008, 09:15 PM
Only flaw? I count several others, price and crappy shifter notwithstanding.Lack of road specific RLC alerts. Lack of Ka band segment selection.

ac4vette
09-12-2008, 09:32 PM
Thanks, I will use that method when I get mine, should be sometime next week.
I am lucky that I know which radar and laser they use in my county, and a offer to spend a few hours with a local LEO testing it.

I will be much lower than 2 feet, more like 8 inches off the road.




The STi antenna (used in the 9500ci and in the STi-R) has a predominantly downward flare. Mounting any of these antennas high on a windshield, the best angle is a totally level case. For the 9500ci or STi-R antenna, this assumes that you have the case oriented such that the serial number sticker is on top.

When mounting a 9500ci or STi-R antenna in a car grille which is 2 to 3 feet off the ground then,

Antenna sticker side up:

-- Adjust the angle of the case such that the front of the antenna is tilted up between 2 to 8 degrees -- 5 degrees being optimal.

Antenna sticker side down:

-- Adjust the angle of the case such that the front of the antenna is tilted down between 2 to 8 degrees -- 5 degrees being optimal.

If your 9500ci or STi antenna is mounted lower than 2 feet off the ground, then use the above but note that theoretically 6 or 7 degrees would be optimal.

:)

MEM-TEK
09-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Thanks, I will use that method when I get mine, should be sometime next week.
I am lucky that I know which radar and laser they use in my county, and a offer to spend a few hours with a local LEO testing it.

I will be much lower than 2 feet, more like 8 inches off the road.

In that case and if that is the highest available mounting option, then mount the antenna sticker side down and level. That would be ideal for this specific setup. :)

djrams80
09-12-2008, 10:07 PM
In that case and if that is the highest available mounting option, then mount the antenna sticker side down and level. That would be ideal for this specific setup. :)Crazy Michael. You're pegging that meter again. :crazy_pilot:

ac4vette
09-12-2008, 10:19 PM
I am starting to understand that there is a LOT more to this than just buying a "Cobra" and never getting a ticket again.:(

djrams80
09-12-2008, 10:33 PM
I am starting to understand that there is a LOT more to this than just buying a "Cobra" and never getting a ticket again.:(:lol::lol::lol:

category4
09-12-2008, 10:33 PM
Nice C6
Are you active on The Corvette Forum?

yes I am

ac4vette
09-12-2008, 11:02 PM
yes I am

CFOT? if yes, you got a PM coming.:D

focalcivic
09-13-2008, 01:26 AM
Mem can you post a pic of the antenna's with its mounting system