View Full Version : Rural speeding X50 and Instant on
Yeikes345
02-20-2005, 01:38 AM
I live in Saskatchewan and my job takes me to rural areas where there is not much traffic. And quite often i'm the only one on the road. I do like to speed, but i've run into a few instant on radars. With no one infront of me for miles and miles. How safe is it for me to speed with my x50 and instant on k and ka band radar used in the area? by responding imediately can i still get a speeding ticket? I usually speed at about 70 to 90 miles and the speed limit is 62. I've been passed by few people with rd's in the area just going as fast as they want without no one in site ahead of them to take the first hit from radar guns. I have been out of fear just been speeding when I can see someone ahead of me on my side of the road so my rd can pick them getting hit first. Everywhere i read no one addresses a rural setting, it is always usa interstate. If anyone knows and has experience with x50 please let me know.
marlinspike
02-20-2005, 01:45 AM
If you're the only one on the road and they are using instant on there ain't no way for a radar detector to help you (there isn't anything for you to detect). The only thing you could do is get a radar jammer, which is a federal crime in the US and probably something bad in Canada too.
Richard
BiGeAsYgUy
02-20-2005, 02:07 AM
I agree with what Marlinspike said but I have heard of people braking very hard and delaying what speed the cops sees because of the doppler shift but I could be wrong.
V1 Dave
02-20-2005, 07:03 AM
BiGeAsYgUy,
I have heard this very same thing, and believe I have beaten the gun.
The best thing to do so you don't get a heart attack with the blast, is stay around the speed limit until someone passes you then keep them 1/4 to 3/4 of a mile in front of you as your target.
jimbonzzz
02-20-2005, 07:18 AM
Yeah, braking hard can sometimes prevent a reading.
The gun takes a number of readings per second, if the vehicle speed is changing more than a few MPH per second it can prevent a speed lock.
So heavy acceleration might do the same thing :D
Jim
marlinspike
02-20-2005, 07:33 AM
Which would explain the perplexed look on the cops face when my mom was doing about 65 in a 25, then we crested and saw a lady cop with a radar gun and my mom floored the brakes (a 1985 issue of car and driver did say that it "stops like the dickens"). I always thought we just got lucky and flooring the brakes was an urban legend. Guess not.
Richard
happya$$
02-20-2005, 07:48 AM
Even my mighty V1 could not save me from instant on Ka band a few years ago. You must have a guinea pig in front of you. Only then are you safe
stalkervision
02-20-2005, 07:51 AM
Which would explain the perplexed look on the cops face when my mom was doing about 65 in a 25, then we crested and saw a lady cop with a radar gun and my mom floored the brakes (a 1985 issue of car and driver did say that it "stops like the dickens"). I always thought we just got lucky and flooring the brakes was an urban legend. Guess not.
Richard
only trouble with that is only the real old radar guns don't get a reading from heavy breaking,new ones do. The only possible way this could work with the new ones is if your driving in heavy traffic and the radar has to hunt for your signal...
matt1020
02-20-2005, 09:34 AM
Which would explain the perplexed look on the cops face when my mom was doing about 65 in a 25, then we crested and saw a lady cop with a radar gun and my mom floored the brakes (a 1985 issue of car and driver did say that it "stops like the dickens"). I always thought we just got lucky and flooring the brakes was an urban legend. Guess not.
Richard
HOw many children has ur mom run over in an 25 going 65??? people like that should have there licens suspended!!!..gota respect the people that live on that road!!
happya$$
02-20-2005, 09:37 AM
Good point Matt but judging by how old you look in your picture you might be one of those kids :)
matt1020
02-20-2005, 09:42 AM
llol..now im 17. but i live on a 25 mph road and i hate when people go over 35!!!
marlinspike
02-20-2005, 09:44 AM
I don't think you've ever been to the DC area have you? Well, in DC, engineering surveys don't matter, the neighborhood groups have to approve a speed limit change. The speed limit on that road was there in the 1960's (I have no older witnesses to see how far back the same limit goes) when it was 1 lane in each direction and was actually a neighborhood. Now 90% of the neighborhood is gone, it's a 4 lane road with a 1lane wide concrete median, the engineering survey says it should be 45, but those few people who still live there won't approve it.
Oh, and for the record, in my mom's years of driving (since she was 16) she's never had an accident/fender bender or anything.
Richard
happya$$
02-20-2005, 09:44 AM
I know EXACTLY what you mean. I live in a 25mph road too and sometimes clock people with my stop watch (radarwatch I bough on Ebay). I clock them at 40, 50, 60, etc. I am ALL FOR speeding on the highways but NOT in the city. I myself speed in the city but NEVER over 35mph on a 25mph road. I think 35mph is reasonable
matt1020
02-20-2005, 09:47 AM
hahah wow i think we agree 100% with each other.... :wink:
jimbonzzz
02-20-2005, 09:59 AM
There are some places where they are WAY too liberal in setting the 25 MPH speed limits. On a stretch of road near me, there are NO side roads, and NO houses. Yet the speed limit is still 25, and I've been down that road multiple times when police were running radar on the people coming around the curve. Easy pickin's for him, since a reasonable speed there is about 40 MPH (like it is on a nearby road going by a school no less).
Jim
happya$$
02-20-2005, 10:01 AM
Yeah I hate how some government take advantage of certain sittuations. We have a few roads like that too. EASY money for cities
outrun
02-20-2005, 07:46 PM
I would say you are just screwed. If he turns it on and it is just you and him well you are going to be singing a ticket. Here in my state if an officer observes you doing above the speed limit considerbly he can write a ticker for unsafe speed. (I got one) Only other thing around it is if you are going to be doing 90 you might as well do 120 and that way he won't catch up. lol
marlinspike
02-20-2005, 07:56 PM
That's where prima facie speed limits can get you. Unsafe speed can mean anything.
Richard
marlinspike
02-20-2005, 09:28 PM
You can't outrun a Motorola.
Richard
outrun
02-20-2005, 10:03 PM
You can outrun a radio if you have a scanner. I am not saying do this but when I was younger I did it. I had a warrant for a speeding ticket and took off in my Ford Taurus SHO. 220 horses. Left a caprice sittin still. I just went into the next city. By the time they notified that city I was in the next one. No officer ever got close enough for a tag.
BUT now that was 10 years ago I was stupid and a teenager so don't do anything like that. I hardly ever speed now but like to know where a cop is.
Jason
RX-65
compu44
02-21-2005, 08:18 PM
As far as the instant-on, it depends somewhat if the officer is stationary or moving. If he's moving, it will take him longer to lock a speed than if stationary. I've been able to out-slow instant-on Ka moving once.