Best Detector?

[KLC]

I am looking at buying either a Cobra XRS 9780, Beltronics RX55 Pro, Beltronics Vector 995, or a Whistler Pro 73. As far as I can understand either the BEL RX55 or the BEL Vector 995 would be the best two. But I would like some more opinions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Note: I know there are better out there but I can get any one of these for $200 or less and that is my budget.

[brick]

Based on reputation I would go with the Bel V995. It's tried and tested by forum members as being nearly as good as the RX65 for a few dollars less. I've used a high-end Cobra and it does the job, just not nearly was well as it could. Whistlers have a reputation for crazy falsing, though laser detection seems to be quite decent. As for the RX55, I simply haven't read much about it. It could be fine but there isn't a whole lot of data to back it up.

The problem is going to be keeping it under $200. You might be inclined to go with an Ebay detector but there is a whole lot of risk associated with that. The warranty will be invalidated if you don't purchase from an authorized seller like Roy or another legitimate retailer. You also don't know the history of these detectors, a surprising number of which are stolen.\
Just my two cents.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Try for the BEL RX55 eventhough the BEL V995 would offer better detection..

Go to radio shack and buy the BEL 895

[tjbender]

V995. Period.

[glockman30]

I am looking at buying either a Cobra XRS 9780, Beltronics RX55 Pro, Beltronics Vector 995, or a Whistler Pro 73. As far as I can understand either the BEL RX55 or the BEL Vector 995 would be the best two. But I would like some more opinions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Note: I know there are better out there but I can get any one of these for $200 or less and that is my budget.

I had the Bel rx55 and I thought it was terrible. I never got good range and it was ALWAYS falsing. I think the V995 would be your best bet.

[mattvr]

Vector 995.
Best range out of the detectors you are choosing from and has Selectable Bands to reduce false alerts.
BUT if your willing to spend that much you should look at getting an Escort 8500 X50

[Radarboy12312]

Vector 995.
Best range out of the detectors you are choosing from and has Selectable Bands to reduce false alerts.
BUT if your willing to spend that much you should look at getting an Escort 8500 X50

The Bel 995 is a great detector but remember it does not pick up pop mode and where I live pop is a issue. If pop mode is not being used in your state? then the 995 might be the way to go.

[jimbonzzz]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

[Radarboy12312]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.

[swifty]

Hey guys, just thought I should speak up here as I have been lurking for a few weeks now and feel I should stand up for the RX55!

In response to KLC's original query I've had an RX55 for several months now and can vouch for its' range on Ka. Obviously not 'RX65 good', due to different [cheaper] antenna construction, but it'd definately be a better choice than any Cobra.

I was also thinking of the Pro73 [nice blue display] but the '55 did so well in tests on Roy's page http://www.radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/2.asp that it swung my decision in favour of the Bel.

It lacks many of the features of the 65 [Threat Mode being one I'd love to have], but retains others from it's big bro, such as CITY_NOX and CITY LO_X which are superb for city driving. X band is obsolete where I live and K is pertty rare, so I need something which is strong on Ka.

Falsing has not been too much of a problem for me, aside from the odd nasty Uniden [lots of those here] and Cobra pulling up along side with their false sense of security.

I've been less than impressed however with it's warning on Multanova cameras, but am gonna try the horizontal mounting recommended by Flitsservice.nl and see how that goes, so long as it doesn't affect the Ka range.

Hope this helps and thanks to all on the forum for such high quality posts, I've been sifting through these last few weeks and learning a lot.

Cheers,

Swifty

[Radarboy12312]

Hey guys, just thought I should speak up here as I have been lurking for a few weeks now and feel I should stand up for the RX55!

In response to KLC's original query I've had an RX55 for several months now and can vouch for its' range on Ka. Obviously not 'RX65 good', due to different [cheaper] antenna construction, but it'd definately be a better choice than any Cobra.

I was also thinking of the Pro73 [nice blue display] but the '55 did so well in tests on Roy's page http://www.radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/2.asp that it swung my decision in favour of the Bel.

It lacks many of the features of the 65 [Threat Mode being one I'd love to have], but retains others from it's big bro, such as CITY_NOX and CITY LO_X which are superb for city driving. X band is obsolete where I live and K is pertty rare, so I need something which is strong on Ka.

Falsing has not been too much of a problem for me, aside from the odd nasty Uniden [lots of those here] and Cobra pulling up along side with their false sense of security.

I've been less than impressed however with it's warning on Multanova cameras, but am gonna try the horizontal mounting recommended by Flitsservice.nl and see how that goes, so long as it doesn't affect the Ka range.

Hope this helps and thanks to all on the forum for such high quality posts, I've been sifting through these last few weeks and learning a lot.

Cheers,

Swifty

I have not used the RX55 but I would sure love to get my hands on one.

[stealthJamal]

I am looking at buying either a Cobra XRS 9780, Beltronics RX55 Pro, Beltronics Vector 995, or a Whistler Pro 73. As far as I can understand either the BEL RX55 or the BEL Vector 995 would be the best two. But I would like some more opinions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Note: I know there are better out there but I can get any one of these for $200 or less and that is my budget.

Out of the detectors you listed, I would pick the Bel 995.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.Well your opinion is false cause my detector works against K and Ka POP...You are just made that the Bell 995 was rated better than the X50 in a recent magazine detector


You opinion doesn't mean anything since it has be proven to alert oh and it alerts faster than any other detector

[Radarboy12312]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.Well your opinion is false cause my detector works against K and Ka POP...You are just made that the Bell 995 was rated better than the X50 in a recent magazine detector


You opinion doesn't mean anything since it has be proven to alert oh and it alerts faster than any other detector

It has nothing to do with how anyone eles rated the X50. Remember Bel and Escort are the same company now so why would I be mad at any of the test results? and not only that but if you read my posts I have nothing but good things to say about the Bel 995 as yes the 995 was un able to see pop [THE ONE THAT I TESTED] but I liked the 995 so well that I would be welling to test one again and maybe even keep it.

My opinion is just as importent as yours or any other members and like I said don't take it as the last word.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.Well your opinion is false cause my detector works against K and Ka POP...You are just made that the Bell 995 was rated better than the X50 in a recent magazine detector


You opinion doesn't mean anything since it has be proven to alert oh and it alerts faster than any other detector

It has nothing to do with how anyone eles rated the X50. Remember Bel and Escort are the same company now so why would I be mad at any of the test results? and not only that but if you read my posts I have nothing but good things to say about the Bel 995 as yes the 995 was un able to see pop [THE ONE THAT I TESTED] but I liked the 995 so well that I would be welling to test one again and maybe even keep it.

My opinion is just as importent as yours or any other members and like I said don't take it as the last word.Video evidence? What gun was being use? K or Ka? was it s Z-series MPH industry gun which on the V1 will alert only 10-20% of the time? How many times were you shot with POP? Or thought you were shot

Radarboy i don't go by opinion i go by facts. yeah my detector has saved my ass even in a POP or instant-on situation by a NY trooper using a Z-series gun. The reason i sent my BEL 995 to jim was to see if SML was right and that my detector did alert to Ka- POP

opinions mean nothing......facts are where its at!

Guys of Lidar aren't about opinions they state the truth

I think (and i am sure some of the other members) your opinion is a little low considering your history on other sites, but thats neither here nor there.

[happya$$]

Facts are facts and opinions are just that opinions. GOL is about reporting facts. We report the data and let the reader make a decision based on our data. We have no hidden agendas, no ties, just pure 100% REAL results.

[Radarboy12312]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.Well your opinion is false cause my detector works against K and Ka POP...You are just made that the Bell 995 was rated better than the X50 in a recent magazine detector


You opinion doesn't mean anything since it has be proven to alert oh and it alerts faster than any other detector

It has nothing to do with how anyone eles rated the X50. Remember Bel and Escort are the same company now so why would I be mad at any of the test results? and not only that but if you read my posts I have nothing but good things to say about the Bel 995 as yes the 995 was un able to see pop [THE ONE THAT I TESTED] but I liked the 995 so well that I would be welling to test one again and maybe even keep it.

My opinion is just as importent as yours or any other members and like I said don't take it as the last word.Video evidence? What gun was being use? K or Ka? was it s Z-series MPH industry gun which on the V1 will alert only 10-20% of the time? How many times were you shot with POP? Or thought you were shot

Radarboy i don't go by opinion i go by facts. yeah my detector has saved my *BEEP* even in a POP or instant-on situation by a NY trooper using a Z-series gun. The reason i sent my BEL 995 to jim was to see if SML was right and that my detector did alert to Ka- POP

opinions mean nothing......facts are where its at!

Guys of Lidar aren't about opinions they state the truth

I think (and i am sure some of the other members) your opinion is a little low considering your history on other sites, but thats neither here nor there.

My testing is done in real world every day drving and as some of you may not agree this is the best way to test them I say this because this is why I use detectors is for real world.

I go by facts as well but the way I look at it is I,am not in expert never cliamed to be but I still have the right to my opinion and I don't want any one to take anything I say as the last word because yes even I will admit that I have been wrong more then once but I have been right more then I have been wrong and this is something that some of you on here just can't live with.

My history on other sites has nothing at all to do with this issue and I really wish some of you would stop talking about this and stop talking about things that have nothing to do with any of the posts. I really feel that some of you try to find anything you can to make it look like I have no idea what I,am talking about.

Sure I could take video of my testing but why should I? all some of you would do is just call it biased based only on the fact that some of you don't agree with my opinion or testing. Remember my test results are about as un bias as it gets.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

I really don't want to further this discussion but if you plan on stating "opinions" please make them look professional and take down the results professionally especially if you plan to say untrue fact about the detector....The only reason the BEL 995 wouldn't alert is that if you were getting shot from a z-series gun or at maximum were shot 2 times since the BEL Vector 995 has an 88%(44/50) detection for Ka POP(Link (http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=57414#57414))
Alerts to K-band POP 67%(2/3) (Link (http://www.radarbusters.com/support/speedlabs-2005/pop-radar-testing.asp))

I seem to believe professionals or those trained by professionals on how to operate the guns to get me the results this way i know the radar gun is active and targeting the questionable vehicle

Where'd you get your BEL V995?????? Your get it from licenced dealer, since i know you hate detectors bought off ebay? Unless the POP gun was a z-series POP gun your detector was defective and should be brought back since i would assume a person like your self would buy from a licenced dealer and have a valid warranty...

Answer the questions i pose to you cause you could of only did one POP enounter but how do you kbnow the gun was active? did you have another detector? I hope not that would interfer. If i am going to take your opinion i need to know these details and so do these other members to take you information you say stuff but you don't have any real evidence to back up what you say?

Lets continue this piss fight in the PMs no point of using this thread

[Mackid343]

i'd say save a bit more money and get the v995, personally, i love it. i think the rx65 would probably be a bit better especially in filters but for a few less $$, the 995 is wonderful

[carlito]

only cool and good is that the bel rx-65 u can pick US KA FOR THE ONLY THREE KA FREQS HERE IN THE USA :D



CARLITO

[Radarboy12312]

First of all for the record like I already said I liked the Vector 995 so well that I,am going to be testing it again just as soon as I can.

Second the 995 I tested was from a friiend that got his from Circuit city brand new in the box.

As for how I tested them. My testing is done in real world every day drving and pop is being used around here in a few towns so I know for a fact [like you like to say] where pop is and is not being used. I also have a few cop friends and so I can get info on the roads that pop is being used on. [POP IS BEING USED AROUND HERE FOR TESTING ONLY] So this gives me a very good idea of where to test my detectors.

As for the testing. My testing has never been based off of a side by side test [ both detectors on at the same time] What I would do is pass by the pop gun first with my X50 with the 995 off of my windshiled and I got a pop alert form a good half of a mile away. I ran this same test again but this time I ran the 995 with the X50 off of my windshiled and I got no alert. I repeated this same test 5 times and the X50 reported KA pop 4 out of 5 times and the 995 reported KA pop 0 out of 5 times. I made sure that both detectors had pop on before I did the pop testing. The pop mode gun that was being used was a mph beeIII.

I ran many tests with the X50 Vs the 995 and let me tell you if it was not for the pop mode issues with the 995 that I had I would have to say that the Bel Vector 995 is one sweet detector. Here is some things to keep in mind first of all the 995 I tested may have been older then the one that you have there for the software may not be as up to date as yours and maybe thats why or like you said maybe I got a bad lemon 995 not sure but these are some things to keep in mind and when I save up anuff money I'am going to buy my very own 995 just to see if it can see pop this time and it very well may and if thats the case I will keep it.

[holein1]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.Well your opinion is false cause my detector works against K and Ka POP...You are just made that the Bell 995 was rated better than the X50 in a recent magazine detector


You opinion doesn't mean anything since it has be proven to alert oh and it alerts faster than any other detector


The 995 is better than the x50.......(huh) scratch head. Where did you see this? By the way the 995 is a fine detector I owned one for a few months, but I think I'll stick with my x50 :)

[Radarboy12312]

I beg to differ:
http://www.radardetector.net/BEL-Vector-995-DOES-detect-Ka-POP-radar%21%21%21-5302t.php

Rermember this is just my opinion and I don't want anyone to take this as the last word.Well your opinion is false cause my detector works against K and Ka POP...You are just made that the Bell 995 was rated better than the X50 in a recent magazine detector


You opinion doesn't mean anything since it has be proven to alert oh and it alerts faster than any other detector


The 995 is better than the x50.......scratch head. Where did you see this? By the way the 995 is a fine detector I owned one for a few months.

I think that the 995 is better at doing some things vs the X50 yes however I feel that the same can be said about the X50.

[theresa]

First of all for the record like I already said I liked the Vector 995 so well that I,am going to be testing it again just as soon as I can.

Can we see the results of the first test, then? If your all big and cool, then PROVE IT, BROTHA! Untill then, keep your "opinions" to yourself.

I'll defend your right to have an opinion to the death, but I've personally, first hand, in "real driving conditions" witnessed that your opinion IS DEAD. WRONG. so, as far as I'm concerned... :roll:

The only reason that your expressing your posts as "opinion" is because opinion can't be proven wrong. Facts can. So, let's see these "tests" so we can see the facts.


Second the 995 I tested was from a friiend that got his from Circuit city brand new in the box.

And you know that...how?

Were you at Circut City with him? Otherwise, you've got no way to prove it. That's like trusting a girl to tell her she took her pill on time.


As for how I tested them. My testing is done in real world every day drving and pop is being used around here in a few towns so I know for a fact [like you like to say] where pop is and is not being used. I also have a few cop friends and so I can get info on the roads that pop is being used on. [POP IS BEING USED AROUND HERE FOR TESTING ONLY] So this gives me a very good idea of where to test my detectors.

How's that now?

Didn't you say that you got hit with pop not one, not two, but FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES?

If they're only testing, then how are you getting hit with pop so often?

And, you know where pop is "supposedly" being used. Good for you. Want a cookie?


As for the testing. My testing has never been based off of a side by side test [ both detectors on at the same time]

Ok, so your not running two at once.

But, who is?

No seriously. Who's doing their tests two radar detectors at a time?


What I would do is pass by the pop gun first with my X50 with the 995 off of my windshiled and I got a pop alert form a good half of a mile away.

So, was the detector OFF, or just not sitting in the window? Because you don't say that they were both OFF, just that you weren't testing them both at the same time...

If they were both in fact on, how do you know that the X50 didn't interfere with the Vector 995?


I ran this same test again but this time I ran the 995 with the X50 off of my windshiled and I got no alert. I repeated this same test 5 times and the X50 reported KA pop 4 out of 5 times and the 995 reported KA pop 0 out of 5 times.

Again - if they were both in fact on, how do you know that one wasn't interfering with the other?

And, since your "test" seems to amount to not much more then cruising past the cops, how do you even know that they've hit you with pop? Sounds like good, solid, "real driving conditions". :roll:

[crazyVOLVOrob]

:roll: 5 different times and you didn't alert :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

Believe opinions if you want but I'd rather believe the FACTS from the Guys of Lidar plus the video evidence

POP was tested at 0.1 and 0.2 miles away from the vehicle and i think that shows the truth

[Radarboy12312]

It seems to me that others on here can't live with other peoples testing so they results to child like posts this is to bad because my testing was based on real world drving not side by side testing as some would like to think.

Yes its true that i'am not an expert [never claimed to be] but I am someone who has been using detectors for many years so I'am by no means a rookie at using detectors so I do know a thing or two about how to test them and I also know a false alert from the real thing. Your just saying that you don't agree with my testing based ONLY on the fact that your results where not the same as mying and that is your right not to agree with me however this does not give you or anyone eles the right to say that my opinions or testing are wrong or that I don't know how to test datectors thats just wrong and this is something that I would never do.

When I test the Vertor 995 again and if it reports pop mode I will be the first to tell you that it does but I only report true test results and no matter how the test comes out not every one is going to agree and its going to turn out this way no matter what.

[Hessen]

That's like trusting a girl to tell her she took her pill on time.


OMG you mean all those girls in the past LIED to me........ :shock:....... :oops:

:lol:

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Radarboy we are all "hip" to you and do not agree with any of your "opinions" which have been proven false and false again! your friends BEL V995 was defective.

Your "opinions" should be questioned just as the "facts" of SML should be questioned...

Thank god for Guys Of Lidar and their real world testing which they do in the search for truth

Radarboy you area huge rookie in detector testing!!! No videos! No factual reports! No proof of your actual testing and certifications of the officers running the guns or trainning from certified operators! Just opinions.... :roll:

[Hessen]

but I am someone who has been using detectors for many years so I'am by no means a rookie at using detectors so I do know a thing or two about how to test them


You may be right BUT.......at SPELLING you are a ROOKIE...... :wink:

Just a suggestion, try "Proof Reading" your posts BEFORE you hit the submit button

[Radarboy12312]

crazyVOLVOrob you can say all of this but you can't prove that anything I am saying is true because you where not there and so you have no idea what is and is not true but guess what I can tell you right now what is and is not true because these where my tests and nobody was there but me so there for you can't say one way or the other can you?.

As for the videos I don't have to take video to know what I know about radar and radar detectors because I have been around radar since I was just a little kid.

[jimbonzzz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/jimbonzzz/gr_bs.gif

[crazyVOLVOrob]

crazyVOLVOrob you can say all of this but you can't prove that anything I am saying is true because you where not there and so you have no idea what is and is not true but guess what I can tell you right now what is and is not true because these where my tests and nobody was there but me so there for you can't say one way or the other can you?.

As for the videos I don't have to take video to know what I know about radar and radar detectors because I have been around radar since I was just a little kid.So if i don't expect what you saying as truth it is obvious you have an agenda to bad mouth the BEL 995. Why would you lie and say the BEL 995 doesn't detect Ka-POP when it does? The things is Radarboy you have always tried to find holes in every single test done if your "testing" doesn't hold true.


You being around radar since you were a baby has effected your brain. Your history around radar detectors is to state the Escort 8500 X50 as sooo much better than the V1...You can't have a detector be better than you X50 it's obvious to all the members here and there is no way to change your opinion. You always seem to get the bad apple of detectors you test...If you are really into testing detectors why don't your own detectors from a certified dealer say Roy or beltronics directly and test another BEL V995 i can bet you that the BEL Vector 995 can detect Ka-POP from a BeeIII(67ms) sadly I can't take your word nor could most of the forum members here.

Maybe at the next Guys of Lidar someone(another forum member) can send their BEL V995 for testing if thats ok with the Guys of Lidar...I'll even pay shipping both ways to have this testing done...This is my confidence in the BEL V995 detecting Ka-POP.(Keep in mind i am a broke college student)

If your opinions don't agree with facts keep your opinions to yourself!

I am done with this post. Go on stating your false opinions, thinking people will care but i doubt someone will take your opinions to heart when purchasing a detector. Exspecially when the facts say different.

[holein1]

Radarboy12312 here is a shovel..........use it to dig your head out of your azz!


http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/5944/24108lg7gk.jpg

[Tifas-Revenge]

Personally, I am alarmed at the GOL results that an original 8500 outperforms the X50 on Ka. It just makes me wanna trade my X50 for an original 8500, since most of the Radar here is from Ka band sources. However, I might just wait till Brand X comes out for the testing results and then either go with it or get myself an 8500.

[theresa]

Isn't it neat how RadarBoy can just talk and talk and talk, and not really say anything at all?

If your so right, then PROVE IT, DUDE. Seriously. If your such a radar genius, and you were picking out radar in the womb (which, I'm ever so sure that you were), then prove that your better at it then everybody else.

Because right now, you just look like a tool.

[Radarboy12312]

it is obvious you have an agenda to bad mouth the BEL 995.?

When did I bad mouth the 995? thats right I did not bad mouth the Bel 995 all I said about the 995 was that the one that I tested did not see pop mode and then thats when all of this bashing started now maybe your having issues with me based only on the fact that you did not agree with the way I tested them well thats just to bad because none of you where there durning my testing there for none of you have any right to even comment on the way I tested them. Also just for the record I love the 995 as I have said before.

Would any of you like to ride along with me next time I test the 995? this way you can't slam my testing because you would see that everything I talk about is true and not made up storys like many of you like to think.

Oh by the way I'am getting so sick of all of this 'BEEP' that I'am going to start making my own videos this way you can't slam real facts as you like to call them. I'am so sorry that some of you can't understand that my testing is true and that when ANY detector that I test does not do something right that I'am going to report it.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

RadarBoy shut up we know the BEL 995 you "tested" was defective...

Fact say your opinions are false. I and all the other forum members go to facts not opinions. If i had the money I'd purchase a brand new BEL V995 and get it's Ka-POP tested but i am saving money for something else. I'd already offered to pay the shipping of some1 elses V995 to get tested on Ka-POP. Personally i would not test your "friends" cause it is defective

Radarboy you have an agenda against any detector that is RATED better than the Escort 8500 X50. you have always been this way. You have a history of starting fights which doesn't sit well with the admins and members...Please go back to ruining the other radar detector forum with your BS

[Radarboy12312]

Fine the one I tested might be defective I,am welling to even admit that.

Whats this Quote "crazyVOLVOrob" [Radarboy you have an agenda against any detector that is RATED better than the Escort 8500 X50. you have always been this way. You have a history of starting fights which doesn't sit well with the admins and members...Please go back to ruining the other radar detector forum with your BS]

Wrong Rob I have NO agenda I report facts like you like to call them its a fact that the 995 I tested did not see pop mode and maybe because it was defective [NOT SURE] but don't go around making up untrue storys about me like I have in agenda against any detector thats rated better then the X50 because I don't in fact like I said before as we all know Bel and Escort are the same company now so if I was going to down play any detector it would not be from Bel or Escort [any other company maybe depending on how poor of a radar detector it was] so once again you are wrong.

I can't wait to come out with my videos so this way I will have video proof of my testing so you can't slam everything I say based ONLY on the fact that you have issues with me even after I admided that the Bel Vector 995 was a great detector [AND IT IS.] It sounds to me that maybe just maybe your biased towds any one that says any thing bad about your 995?.

Whats this? I have a history of starting fights?

Oh is that so well I'am not starting fights I'am clearing things up so no budy gets the wrong idea about me and my testing.

You better report me Rob.

What are the site admins going to ban me because I'am giving out my true opinion or opinions on how I feel? well if thats the case then maybe I should have not joined in the first place.

Heres a fact [since you like to talk about facts] If your going to have me banned then maybe every member should be ban because everyone on this forum has his or hers opinions so does that mean that the whole rest of the board is going to be ban as well?.

Hows that for facts?.

[TexasRed]

Maybe he can use this:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/TexasRed/OC-Dictionary.jpg

[crazyVOLVOrob]

So your not sure your BEL Vector 995 was defective when it didn't alert to Ka-POP? IT IS! Look at the facts. (Link) (http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=57414#57414)

Dude there is no changing you you always come to start fights. If i want to show your agenda I would simply repost most of all your old posts...Sadly I don't have the time to prove something all the old members know to be true. The bad thing you said about the BEL 995 is that it doesn't detecto Ka-POP..YET WE ALL KNOW THIS TO BE FALSE!

As an administrator myself I am shutting up to not turn out like stalkervision. Aruging with you is pointless, you can't see the truth all the radar you have been around must of made you filter it out. You were banned in the past for the fights you start over your false opinions.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To all the forum members please just take some "certain" people's opinions with a grain of salt....Just look for facts.

[Radarboy12312]

I'am not on here to start fights [NEVER HAVE BEEN.] I'am here ONLY to voice my opinions on how I feel and to give others my very own feedback on my R,D testing and people like you can't live with this so you result to making claims that you can't back up. [SOMETHING YOU SAY I DO BUT I don't] I sound like a broken record because I have to keep on repeating myself over and over again because you don't seem to understand what i'am talking about so i'am here to tell you whats true and what is not true and you seem to have issues with me based on the fact that my testing showed that the 995 that I used was not perfect and then thats when your bashing started and not only that but I even had more good things to say about the 995 then bad and you still came after me hard making claims that I was just mad because some tests did not pick the X50 and this had nothing at all to do with anything at all thats just more "BEEP" on your part to try to get me kicked off this site.

I don't care if you report me or not because I have done NOTHING WRONG and at this point I don't even care if I get banned or not because I'am getting so sick of people putting my hard testing down I mean I have spent hours testing detectors and this is the thanks I get for it. But you and others like you are not going to get me down because I trust my testing better then anyone eless and you can't so you just make up story's to help support the fact that you are biased and so are others like you. I even agreed with you on some things and you still try to turn things around on me just to make me look bad but you see I will not let you get away with this because I'am not like any one you have ever seen before and you and others will see what I'am talking about some day you just wait and see.

Its real sad that real people like myself can't voice there true feelings on here without having to worry about getting banned.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Opinions are fine when they are just opinopns...For example of opinion..."I think the red sox suck!" This is not an opinion, "The red sox sucked last year"......sadly the second opinion is wrong they won the world series last year thats a fact so they dn't suck.

You opinion can be I think the Escort 8500 X50 is better than the BEL V995 for reasons x, y, and z....You can not say that in your opinion a detector doesn't do something when the facts say otherwise.

Why do your results done in realworld areas not agree with the real results of the majority of testers? Doesn't make sense....You can say this and that but no one will believe it. Radarboy you can do the testing all you want but it is no value to us when we have testers willing to produce videos, visit RadarRoy for testing and have certified Police officers teach and operate the radar guns for the test.

I have issues with you stating an "opinion" which is false thats is my issue...That is why i offered for any member with a BEL 995 I'd be willing to pay the cost to have it tested for Ka-POP!

Radarboy you are doing something wrong right now picking another fight with me who is an administrator here :lol: You have been on watch since you became a member of this board. Dude I'd like you if you kept your false opinions to yourself(BEL 995 not alerting to Ka-POP....cause it does!!!!)

Hard testing my ass there is no evidence that you did jack squat all hear say...For me to believe the test happen i need evidence. I believe SML happened cause i know people that attended and the results on their website and in the magzines. I know the Guys of Lidar event happen cause of people i know going there and a DVD documenting the evidence.

I will never thank you for your testing cause i don't believe the results you got, The results you got do not confirm the results of majority other tests done. Your testing the results always seem to be the opposite of others. Forexample if you said the BEL 995 you tested only alerted 2 or 3 times out of 5 ok but you said it didn't alert at all when recent test show the BEL V995 52 times out f 60 tries 87% detection...there is something wrong with your results or at least they are hard to believe. You testing didn't go into detail like that terrain distance all the stuff that GoL and SML go over heck we can visualize the terrain in some members video's....

How am i biased that I believe establish members over someone who has always been in bad blood with the members here. Everytime you are allowed back or come back here, the administrators are put on alert to watch you....And then you go and state an "opinion" which was proven false, of course I will jump on you for that. This forum is so much smoother when you aren't here with your opinions.

Radarboy you made yourself look bad before you came here with the posting you did in other forums ...You even called this forum biased on the other radar detector forum....Remember "boy" Big brother is watching and this big brother doesn't forget.

The admins myself included were so gald you left but now you came back and stated a false opinion.


I don't really need to report you there is another more established admin in here seeing your posts all i need to do is go to the Admin forum and post the link to this thread the joys of being an administrator....BUT I know you are hoping that you get banned so you can go to the other forum and bash us saying we are sooo biased...

We aren't biased here we only settle for facts, not opinions.

[Radarboy12312]

We have been over and over and over this again and again and I think by now its real safe to say that we DO NOT AGREE. Its ok for anyone on here to not agree with me so plase don't get me wrong this was never the point I was trying to make and never will be.

Quote crazyVOLVOrob [ You opinion can be I think the Escort 8500 X50 is better than the BEL V995 for reasons x, y, and z....You can not say that in your opinion a detector doesn't do something when the facts say otherwise.]

Fine but its more then just in opinion at this point its a fact that I tested the Bel Vector 995 with or without video proof. When did I ever say that the X50 was better vs the 995? I never did for the very last time all I said was the one that I tested did not see pop at all and then thats when you started this so called fight that you say I started. I even admited that the 995 I used might have been a bad one and you still went aftter me. So my results where not the same as the guys of lidar big deal does this mean that you have the right to bad mouth me based just on the fact that my results where not the same as yours or anyone eleses?.


Quote crazyVOLVOrob [Radarboy you are doing something wrong right now picking another fight with me who is an administrator here :lol: You have been on watch since you became a member of this board. Dude I'd like you if you kept your false opinions to yourself(BEL 995 not alerting to Ka-POP....cause it does!!!!)]

First of all I'am not picking any fights I'am trying to make you understand somethings that you just don't. Yes I know I have been on watch since I joined but for all the wrong reasons. Just because you are a admin does not give you the right to ban ANYONE based ONLY on the fact that you do not agree with them. This is the main reason why I left the first time in the first place without even being banned. I would like you if you just stopped saying things like I have a false opinion but at this point as I already said before its more then just in opinion as with or with out video its a fact that I tested a Bel Vector 995.

Quote crazyVOLVOrob [How am i biased that I believe establish members over someone who has always been in bad blood with the members here. Everytime you are allowed back or come back here, the administrators are put on alert to watch you....And then you go and state an "opinion" which was proven false, of course I will jump on you for that. This forum is so much smoother when you aren't here with your opinions.]

In bad blood with admins is what you really mean and this is based ONLY on the fact that some of you admins don't agree with my opinions and facts and that you don't want me to state how I really feel because maybe just maybe I might be right about what I talk about so you don't want to hurt your HUGE egos. The admins are put on alert to make sure that I don't say anything bad about the V1 and this is what this issue is really all about. This forum is so much smoother without me because others don't want to get banned but I have had to many things go wrong this year to even care anymore.

Quote crazyVOLVOrob [Radarboy you made yourself look bad before you came here with the posting you did in other forums ...You even called this forum biased on the other radar detector forum....Remember "boy" Big brother is watching and this big brother doesn't forget. ]

What you really mean is I made myself look bad because of the way I talked about one detector when you start to tell something then tell the whole story not just parts of it . Well BIG BROTHER remember Radar Boy never forgets things and I will remember all the bad things you said about me and I don't have to be a admin to know what I know. If you don't want me to call this forum bias then prove it don't ban me and I will never call this forum biased again. Just let me say what I want [without me fighting] to say and I will not fight with anyone. As I already said I don't care if you ban me or not thats not the issue here.

[PHILBERT]

http://philbert.lh.net/stfu.jpg

:lol:

[carlito]

we got raul from rmr :lol: :lol: :twisted: :arrow: :idea:




carlito

[crazyVOLVOrob]

http://philbert.lh.net/stfu.jpg

:lol:agreed I am running out of energy to reply....

To the members please beware of Radarboy he is here for fights but he loves to hear "opinions" as he disguises his false facts as "opinions"


Radarboy, I have looked around and it seems that your main purpose on forums is to start fights, thus is why you asked such an argued topic that has been answered over and over again on this forum.

Jim has linked you to some other threads on this topic. Locked.
http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=913&highlight=

Radarboy, myself and many other people that know you from Epinions will completely disregard anything you say.

For those of you that're wondering where that came from: this guy has had a habit of trolling the Epinions radar detector comments, harassing members there, and, well, just being a troll. For your reading displeasure:

http://www.epinions.com/content_145070984836/show_~allcom
http://www.epinions.com/content_143725858436/show_~allcom (if the posts do not appear for you, they were deleted; maxuzz was talking to radarboy).
http://www.epinions.com/content_164601171588/show_~allcom

There should be no problem reading those even if you do not have an Epinions account, I don't think.

Sorry, guys, but I was under the impression that this is a place for more intelligent discussion of detectors, not childish comments and fanboy-like support. There was a reason that he's had several accounts there, most of which are suspended by Epinions: radarboy, radarboy12312, radarboy12312_, and apparently, now x508500.

Man Radarboy you are doing it here too getting under people's skin
Radarboy's history goes on and on i could post more but too lazy.

Radarboy if this forum is so biased like you said on the other forum....leave please...You false "opinions" don't meean poo to any of the members here but maybe they mean something elsewhere...We all know your history...Why did i even vote to let you back? I thought you could behave after being banned once and boy was i wrong

[Hessen]

Everyone should be allowed to express their opinions.........that includes Radarboy........If you disagree with someone...........ignore them.

Simple.

:roll:

[Veri]

Funny how I can come back to the forum long after the initial radarboy fight and see that he's still up to his usual nonsense.

That said, I'm pretty decided on my V1.

:?

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Everyone should be allowed to express their opinions.........that includes Radarboy........If you disagree with someone...........ignore them.

Simple.

:roll:I agree with you but stateing an opinion that the BEL V995 doesn't alert to Ka-POP is false when the facts say otherwise and should NOT be stated again.

If he would drop that comment i would be fine...The BEL V995 he tested was and is defective.

[RadarHell]

Man… I see someone has infested yet another forum. The 8500/X50 is the King of the World jargon with the spokes person always Preachin’ the words “Escort is 8500/X50 is GOD”

One thing that I have noticed is that if you state anything is “Great” and has nothing to do with the Escort 8500 X, here comes someone to the rescue and praise why the other doesn’t compare.

[theresa]

Everyone should be allowed to express their opinions.........that includes Radarboy........If you disagree with someone...........ignore them.

Simple.

:roll:

Ok, I'll grant the point about "If you disagree, ignore them", but when your expressing opinion, and representing it as fact, that's an entirely different ballgame.

In fact, I believe that that's a large part of what Kevin Trudeau is in so much trouble for. (fcc.gov. Search for "Kevin Trudeau". Trust me...)

t

[Jon_Doh]

The sad thing is he has been banned from other forums for picking fights and flaming and he doesn't learn his lesson. He just finds another forum and even registers the same user name. I think he's really 14 or 15 and can't even drive a car.

[Hessen]

The sad thing is he has been banned from other forums for picking fights and flaming and he doesn't learn his lesson. He just finds another forum and even registers the same user name. I think he's really 14 or 15 and can't even drive a car.

It takes TWO to fight.

The reality is if Radarboy or whoever states that my V1, doesn't detect POP Ka, Laser, etc . or my Bel is a piece of crap from "his" testing I could not care less.
Now if Radar Roy reports something.....then I'll listen.

If it is true and Radarboy is only here to "fight" then STOP engaging him, soon he'll discover that it's much like having SEX.
It's NO fun if you continually find yourself doing it alone.
:wink:

[RadarHell]

That is honestly true. Over @ epinions he has been banned somewhere around 5+times :shock: :?: :!: and keeps (obviously) using different names.

I know, and I believe everyone else on here knows, that all are entitled to there opinions and daily experiences. With that said you only need to state (especially the opinion) no more than something like two times. I get tired :evil: of the same redirect posts that go on and on that take up 1/4 of the page.

We are all experts here! Some more than others. :wink:

Even if one is a minor in the intalece(intelligence) department, they can have a voice but really need to rethink why we are all here. Though if a mistake/mislead to a particular product line, admit to it and drop-it.

[Veri]

That is honestly true. Over @ epinions he has been banned somewhere around 5+times :shock: :?: :!: and keeps (obviously) using different names.
Yup, sure does - I was over at epinions with this, too. He just keeps trolling his way back.

[SmaartAasSaabr]

It's NO fun if you continually find yourself doing it alone.
:wink:

I guess you'd know eh? :lol: :wink:

[Hessen]

It's NO fun if you continually find yourself doing it alone.
:wink:

I guess you'd know eh? :lol: :wink:

Sorry dude....You're WRONG...... :P

Married with Children........no time anymore to do it alone or with the wife..........
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wait ..... :shock: ...WTF am I laughning at....... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[f_399]

Radarboy,

Type your reply in Microsoft Word....

..press F7... then paste it on the forum and click submit.

[time2fly]

crazyVOLVOrob you can say all of this but you can't prove that anything I am saying is true because you where not there and so you have no idea what is and is not true but guess what I can tell you right now what is and is not true because these where my tests and nobody was there but me so there for you can't say one way or the other can you?.

As for the videos I don't have to take video to know what I know about radar and radar detectors because I have been around radar since I was just a little kid.

Off subject and I'll probably get slammed for this, but since nobody seems to agree with you on other subjects...

I suppose that you can also "prove" that Harley's are twice as good as their competition because of the NAME? It's like junior high kids that have to wear the lastest fashions because they're "cool". I'd rather have a better engineered, more reliable bike for half the money any day!

If HD is so good, why is it that so many people sell theirs? Maybe they get tired of cleaning up the oil drips whenever they park it for more than 30 seconds?

[Radarboy12312]

crazyVOLVOrob you can say all of this but you can't prove that anything I am saying is true because you where not there and so you have no idea what is and is not true but guess what I can tell you right now what is and is not true because these where my tests and nobody was there but me so there for you can't say one way or the other can you?.

As for the videos I don't have to take video to know what I know about radar and radar detectors because I have been around radar since I was just a little kid.

Off subject and I'll probably get slammed for this, but since nobody seems to agree with you on other subjects...

I suppose that you can also "prove" that Harley's are twice as good as their competition because of the NAME? It's like junior high kids that have to wear the lastest fashions because they're "cool". I'd rather have a better engineered, more reliable bike for half the money any day!

If HD is so good, why is it that so many people sell theirs? Maybe they get tired of cleaning up the oil drips whenever they park it for more than 30 seconds?

HD is the ONLY bike worth buying and Radar Roy the owner of this site agrees with me and not with you so who do you think is going to get banned for talking smack about Harley Davidson?. Thats right you.

If you don't like them then you don't have to buy them thats your right.

All other bikes look up to Harley for one reason HARLEY DAVIDSON IS THE BEST AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

The ONLY Harleys I don't like are AMF ones they are JUNK.

[Radarboy12312]

[/quote time2fly]

[Off subject and I'll probably get slammed for this, but since nobody seems to agree with you on other subjects...]

Nobody agrees with me because of the way I talk about the Valentine One.

If I gave the V1 5 stars all the time then everyone would agree with me trust me thats how this all started in the first place.

[jimbonzzz]

Nobody agrees with you because you say things that aren't true, such as saying that the V995 does not detect POP.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Nobody agrees with you because you say things that aren't true, such as saying that the V995 does not detect POP. he said Ka-POP...but remember it was "in his opinion" :lol: :lol:

[Radarboy12312]

Nobody agrees with you because you say things that aren't true, such as saying that the V995 does not detect POP.

For the last time the V995 that I tested did not see ka pop. If I said that the 995 [THE ONE THAT I TESTED] did see ka pop then your right I would be saying things that are not true but I don't lie.

I'am sure the 995 I tested was a bad one that is why I'am going to be testing a brand new 995 soon with video to back it up.

[jimbonzzz]

Did the V995 you tested detect K-Band POP?

[Radarboy12312]

Did the V995 you tested detect K-Band POP?

I really don't know because I never ran a K band pop test and I really don't know of anyone using K band pop.

[f_399]

Did the V995 you tested detect K-Band POP?

I really don't know because I never ran a K band pop test and I really don't know of anyone using K band pop.

but...... didnt you write this on another post?

"Wrong both the X50 and the Rx65 pick up both K and Ka band pop mode."

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=9602&highlight=#9602

[Radarboy12312]

Did the V995 you tested detect K-Band POP?

I really don't know because I never ran a K band pop test and I really don't know of anyone using K band pop.

but...... didnt you write this on another post?

"Wrong both the X50 and the Rx65 pick up both K and Ka band pop mode."

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=9602&highlight=#9602

I never once said that the X50 and rx65 did or did not see K band pop mode all I said was I did not test them on K band pop mode because K band pop is not being used around here and I don't know of anyone even using K band pop.

[f_399]

really now?



I do not think the RX65 and X50 cover 2 band POP just one which is Ka POP

Wrong both the X50 and the Rx65 pick up both K and Ka band pop mode.

you might want to look back at this statement

[f_399]

Did the V995 you tested detect K-Band POP?

I really don't know because I never ran a K band pop test and I really don't know of anyone using K band pop.

but...... didnt you write this on another post?

"Wrong both the X50 and the Rx65 pick up both K and Ka band pop mode."

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=9602&highlight=#9602

I never once said that the X50 and rx65 did or did not see K band pop mode all I said was I did not test them on K band pop mode because K band pop is not being used around here and I don't know of anyone even using K band pop.

really now?

if you havent done the testing then you DONT know if the X50 or RX65 detects K band POP



I do not think the RX65 and X50 cover 2 band POP just one which is Ka POP

Wrong both the X50 and the Rx65 pick up both K and Ka band pop mode.

then who said this? looks your saying the X50 and RX65 DOES pick up both Ka and K band pop

[Radarboy12312]

I,am sure it does atleast sml has reported that both the X50 and rx65 picked up K and ka pop mode.

I'am saying that I did not test K band pop mode so there for I would have no way of knowing if indeed they really did or not.

[time2fly]

HD is the ONLY bike worth buying and Radar Roy the owner of this site agrees with me and not with you so who do you think is going to get banned for talking smack about Harley Davidson?. Thats right you.

If you don't like them then you don't have to buy them thats your right.

All other bikes look up to Harley for one reason HARLEY DAVIDSON IS THE BEST AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

The ONLY Harleys I don't like are AMF ones they are JUNK.

I know Roy has a Harley and I'm not worried about being "banned" from a forum for stating an opinion about an unrelated subject.

I agree that all other bike makers "look up to" Harley, but for a different reason: money. It has nothing to do with quality. Harley sells an image and a name, and they are very good at it. Unfortunately the bikes themselves are not their top priority. They make much more money from clothing and accessories than the bikes (It's true; research it.) Why should they be overly concerned with bike quality?

I bet people like yourself that "ONLY" like Harleys would also buy a Uniden detector if the label on the outside said "Escort", "Bel" or "Valentine". Your "ONLY bike worth buying" statement just reinforces my comments anyway. Thanks! :lol:

[Radarboy12312]

HD is the ONLY bike worth buying and Radar Roy the owner of this site agrees with me and not with you so who do you think is going to get banned for talking smack about Harley Davidson?. Thats right you.

If you don't like them then you don't have to buy them thats your right.

All other bikes look up to Harley for one reason HARLEY DAVIDSON IS THE BEST AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

The ONLY Harleys I don't like are AMF ones they are JUNK.

I know Roy has a Harley and I'm not worried about being "banned" from a forum for stating an opinion about an unrelated subject.

I agree that all other bike makers "look up to" Harley, but for a different reason: money. It has nothing to do with quality. Harley sells an image and a name, and they are very good at it. Unfortunately the bike itself is not their priority. They make more money from clothing and accessories than the bikes.

I think people that "ONLY" like Harleys would also buy a Uniden detector if the label on the outside said "Escort", "Bel" or "Valentine". Your "ONLY bike worth buying" statement just reinforces my comments anyway. :lol:

Its the ONLY bike worth buying because all others look up to Harley Davdison and people like you down play them because

A people like you don't have anuff money to buy one

B you don't know a Good bike when you see one there for you should not even own one or talk about it in the first place.

Heck I don't even own a Harley and I know they are the best.

Lets ask Roy what his opinion is about people like you?.

Trust me if you keep talking this way about H D you will be banned.

[time2fly]

Its the ONLY bike worth buying because all others look up to Harley Davdison and people like you down play them because

A people like you don't have anuff money to buy one

B you don't know a Good bike when you see one there for you should not even own one or talk about it in the first place.

Heck I don't even own a Harley and I know they are the best.

Lets ask Roy what his opinion is about people like you?.

Trust me if you keep talking this way about H D you will be banned.

WTF! You don't even own one and yet you are an expert about their quality? What a joke! I own two bikes and I work for a large company in the motorcycle industry so sorry, once again you are wrong.

I'm done with this conversation because it's not worth my time. Have fun talking to yourself!

[Radarboy12312]

Just because you work with bikes does not make you a expert.

I tell you what why don't you go down to Sturgis next year and tell all the bikers that Harleys are junk and see what happens to you.

You will not make it out of there alive. HA HA HA!!!!.

[theresa]

I,am sure it does atleast sml has reported that both the X50 and rx65 picked up K and ka pop mode.

I'am saying that I did not test K band pop mode so there for I would have no way of knowing if indeed they really did or not.

You know, it's super cool how you always have an excuse for why EVERY. SINGLE. THING. you say somehow isn't wrong.

Even though I've yet to see you be right.

:shrug:

[f_399]

I,am sure it does atleast sml has reported that both the X50 and rx65 picked up K and ka pop mode.

I'am saying that I did not test K band pop mode so there for I would have no way of knowing if indeed they really did or not.

You know, it's super cool how you always have an excuse for why EVERY. SINGLE. THING. you say somehow isn't wrong.

Even though I've yet to see you be right.

:shrug:

hahaha true that!

[Radarboy12312]

I'am right about everything I talk about.

Just wait and see when I come out with my videos.

You don't know me in person so you can't say if I'am right or wrong because you where not there so you don't know do you? ha ha.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

So you are "right" about the BEL V995 not detecting (67ms) Ka-POP? :?

Some how i doubt that

What state is radar land so i can research their POP radar guns

[Radarboy12312]

So you are "right" about the BEL V995 not detecting (67ms) Ka-POP? :?

Some how i doubt that

What state is radar land so i can research their POP radar guns

I already said that the V 995 that I tested was a bad one.