How to hide my LI completely?

[vitalinea]

Hi guys,

I have recently bought an LI with 4 heads and would like to install them on a totaly secure way. As I drive a lot in Europe across countries and as there are some countries where it is not allowed to drive a car with LI installed I would like to hide the heads as much as I can.

Do you know any possible ways how I could do that?

thanks

[Hunter]

The only way i can think of is removing the heads.

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

You can purchase a product in The EU called Perspex 962. It is dark and will hide your sensors yet allows the transmission of IR.

Watch here:
http://www.bezpokut.sk/video/perspex_and_glasses.mov

Get free samples here: http://www.theplasticshop.co.uk/sample-request-3360-0.html

Cliff

[forden68]

Hi,

Long time no 'read' about Perspex 962... :o
It's a pretty cool stuff, we used to know for a while.
But I'd just like to prevent future users, that after some tests ( + real life tests ) on multiple laser-jammers, we've encountered few problems :
- sometimes, and for no known reason, some jammers didn't received ( and so didn't jammed ) the signal ( correctly aimed, and mostly from long distances ),
- some other times, jammers received the signal, striked back ( with audio+LED signal inside the car ), but NO effective Jamming. We may think that for some reasons Perspex 962 can deform/warp the emitted signal.

We're tried to reach manufacturers/resellers, but no correct answers have been given.

So, use it, but be aware of the non 100% efficiency

I'm still looking for a good way to hide it, so if have other ideas ;)

Regards

Forden

[ragamix]

perspex works and it works very well. what could happen is that the space between the head and perspex got filled with dirt and mud. if it's sealed well this will not happen. we have done lots of installations with perspex and never any problems.. with LI at least. the problem must have been somewhere else.. jammers work well even if they are installed inside taillights (again at least as long as we talk about LI)

[CJR238]

Nice, ill have to pick some of this stuff up!

[vitalinea]

Thanks for the perspex tips!


perspex works and it works very well. what could happen is that the space between the head and perspex got filled with dirt and mud. if it's sealed well this will not happen. we have done lots of installations with perspex and never any problems.. with LI at least. the problem must have been somewhere else.. jammers work well even if they are installed inside taillights (again at least as long as we talk about LI)

Hi ragamix,

I am writting from Hungary where - at the time being - using LI and other blockers is legal, but there are some rumours that they will be baned :(
As I travel a few times to Slovakia and as my LI heads are not hidden should I be worried in Slovakia? Do you know anything about the penalties if the cops catch me with that?

Thanks!

[ragamix]

Thanks for the perspex tips!


perspex works and it works very well. what could happen is that the space between the head and perspex got filled with dirt and mud. if it's sealed well this will not happen. we have done lots of installations with perspex and never any problems.. with LI at least. the problem must have been somewhere else.. jammers work well even if they are installed inside taillights (again at least as long as we talk about LI)

Hi ragamix,

I am writting from Hungary where - at the time being - using LI and other blockers is legal, but there are some rumours that they will be baned :(
As I travel a few times to Slovakia and as my LI heads are not hidden should I be worried in Slovakia? Do you know anything about the penalties if the cops catch me with that?

Thanks!

hello vitalinea,

yes my friends from hu sold me that they are thinking of banning jammers over there but honestly i have been hearing this for years now.. so i guess you guys are safe for now ;)

as for sk it's not that easy to answer. majority of our customers have their sensors hidden behind perspex but not all. we never really had any problems. police have their official price list for penalties and the fine for jammers and rd is 150e.. but although this price list is official it doesn't mean they cant give you a higher fine as the law says that they can give you up to 650e on the spot (for anything thats related to traffic). best is to try to convince them that LI is just a parking sensor and that it is legal to have it on the car in hu because based on the vienna convention on road traffic cars vehicle equipment is regulated by the county where the car is registered (e.g. some countries require you to have a fire extinguisher but if it is not required in your home country you dont really have to have one..). this might help but i dont guarantee it really will.. but it;s always worth to try :)

[vitalinea]

Thanks for the info ragamix!

Does the police use radars in SK as well? Here in Hungary Lidars are used 99% of the time so i have no protection against radars. Do I need to worry in Slovakia?
Btw I think there will be no problems in Hungary. The situation is that a politican used blockers on his government car and some parties are pissed of because of this and one of them tried to make them illegal...Hope it wont work. If it will, I will have to buy some perspex :)

[ragamix]

hi, no problem at all :)

as for radar yes our police used them a lot so be careful. here is what they use:
Ramer 7, AD9 @ 34.00GHz and 34.30GHz
LTI 20-20 UL, 125pps
LTI Trucam EU version; 10 units in total
Polcam 2006 (undetectable, installed in Passat R36, VW Passat FSI 3,2 V6 and probably also in a silver Mercedes C; all in all they have 4 pieces in total)
[ http://www.radardetector.net/forums/local-regional-info/1830-list-bands-europe-13.html ]

[stealthfz1]

Hello vitalinea:

What part of Hungary are you in? I'm going to be in Budapest for 6 weeks arriving March 12.

[vitalinea]

Hello vitalinea:

What part of Hungary are you in? I'm going to be in Budapest for 6 weeks arriving March 12.


Hello,

I live in the western part of Hungary, but can give a few tips if you would like to see the sights in Budapest :)

[lugnuts]

You can purchase a product in The EU called Perspex 962. It is dark and will hide your sensors yet allows the transmission of IR.

Watch here:
http://www.bezpokut.sk/video/perspex_and_glasses.mov

Get free samples here: http://www.theplasticshop.co.uk/sample-request-3360-0.html

Cliff

anyone sell that in the USA?

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

anyone sell that in the USA?

Try Lucite here in The USA

Cliff

[iflysmooth]

Hi guys,

I have recently bought an LI with 4 heads and would like to install them on a totaly secure way. As I drive a lot in Europe across countries and as there are some countries where it is not allowed to drive a car with LI installed I would like to hide the heads as much as I can.

Do you know any possible ways how I could do that?

thanks

This is from the laser FAQ sticky not me, but I would go by what they say.
"The most important rule of thumb is this: Stealth the ride, not the install! That means, concentrate on installing your jammer for maximum performance, not for maximum concealment. Otherwise, you are only increasing your chances of failure and getting discovered when they pull you over. You are not the first person from California to buy a jammer and think that he MUST hide the heads behind something to avoid a ticket for having a jammer. We know this. But there is no way around it. If we tell you that you have to put it somewhere, then that is the bottom line. Again, NO! You can NOT put it behind ANYTHING! And YES, you may have to cut your grille to mount it. You do not own the one car on Earth that will defy the laws of physics. If you argue with us about it, you will be banned."

[DJH65]

I have contacted the plastic shop and despite the website suggesting that you can only purchase full sheets, they will cut to size. I asked for a price on 4 off at 150mm x 25mm and they quoted me GBP 5.00 each, plus GBP 9.95 for P&P within UK. My wife will be in the UK in 4 weeks, so might get some to try.