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GeeM
03-04-2006, 06:23 AM
Hello!

I've found a new RD on radar-shop.de : the Naxel 2020 also called Speedcrystal S :wink:

Here is the official weblink (http://www.naxel.com/products_rd2.htm)

There is another link for more information but it's in French and I can't find a similar one in English :(
http://www.speed-dynamics.de/html/detecteur_de_radar_naxel_2020.html

I don't know if it works great in US :?

Do you know it? What do you think or do you know about this RD (comments on the specifications or any review would be great :) )?

jimbonzzz
03-04-2006, 08:28 AM
If I was a betting man, I would guess that those are probably made by BG Tech. The detector has a "Strobe Detector" which is unique to the Cobras, also made by BG Tech.

Jim

Iknox
03-04-2006, 10:32 AM
damn i guess Jim bone shot that shyt down still worth looking into tho

jimbonzzz
03-04-2006, 11:07 AM
If I was a betting man, I would guess that those are probably made by BG Tech. The detector has a "Strobe Detector" which is unique to the Cobras, also made by BG Tech.

Jim

OK, I guess I was wrong. It isn't made by BG Tech, it is made by another Korean company: CH-Tech Inc.

There is a version approved for sale in the US (KF-2030V), but I haven't seen them anywhere.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5817/naxel8oq.jpg
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/8159/naxel28gs.jpg

Here's the operator's manual (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=551970&native_or_pdf=pdf).

SmaartAasSaabr
03-04-2006, 11:19 AM
Detecteur de radar SpeedCrystal S
KF2020 Naxel E

Fabricant: Speed Dynamics

Description:
L'avertisseur de radar SCS identifie tous les appareils de mesure radar et laser qui sont utilisés en Allemagne, en Autriche et en Suisse. L'alarme est signalée sur l'écran afficheur et par un avertisseur sonore modulable pour attirer votre attention sur le radar arrivant à proximité. L'appareil bascule sur deux modes : ville et route, afin d'adapter la sensibilité de réaction aux conditions ambiantes. Il est équipé d'une modulation du volume sonore et fonctionne dans les domaines de fréquence suivants :
Bande K : 24.150 GHz +/- 100 MHz
Bande Ka : 34.300, 34.700, 34.900 GHz
Bande Ku : 13.450 GHz +/- 50 MHz
Bande X : 10.525 GHz +/- 50 MHz
Il est doté par ailleurs d'une fonction de basculement automatique – manuel , d'une inhibition ponctuelle ou permanente de l'avertisseur sonore après le premier message d'alarme. L'appareil ne peut pas être détecté à distance ; il possède la certification CE. L'écran possède une fonction veilleuse et obscurcissement. Le détecteur est branché sur l'allume - cigarettes dans la cabine du véhicule. Il est livré avec un kit de matériel d'installation complet : bandes autoagrippantes, raccords ventouses et câble de branchement (longueur de 1,5 m). L'appareil doit être installé à l'intérieur car il n'est pas conçu pour l'extérieur. L'utilisateur décide lui-même s'il doit ou non cacher l'appareil. Ce qui compte, c'est que l'appareil ait un champ de vision libre sur le pare-brise en direction de la chaussée. Il n'est pas prévu pour fonctionner sur pile, sans câble. La livraison est accompagnée d'une notice d'utilisation en allemand. Dimensions : 10,5 x 8,0 x 3,9 cm. Aucune mise à niveau technique n'est nécessaire. Le téléphone mobile ne perturbe pas le fonctionnement de l'appareil.
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poids: 0,40kg(s)

Quick translation...

The "SCS" radar receiver detects all radars in Austria, Switzerland and Germany. When it detects a signal it will show a visual ID and a aural alert varying with proximity. It has 2 modes - City and Highway. It also has a volume adjustment (wow!) and gets these frequencies:
Bande K : 24.150 GHz +/- 100 MHz
Bande Ka : 34.300, 34.700, 34.900 GHz
Bande Ku : 13.450 GHz +/- 50 MHz
Bande X : 10.525 GHz +/- 50 MHz

The RD cannot be detected from far away, it is CE approved. The screen has a brightness adjustment. It plugs into the cigarette lighter of the car. It must be used inside the car. The owner can decide to hide it or not. It comes with the usual accessories. It even has instructions in German. Cellphones will not affect the device.

Weight - 400 g.

nvr2fast
03-04-2006, 06:29 PM
Hey hey this thing AINT BAD:

Band Minimum Typical
X-Band -110dBm/㎠ -112dBm/㎠
K-Band -110dBm/㎠ -112dBm/㎠
Ka-Band -110dBm/㎠ -112dBm/㎠

RX65:
X -108
Ku -94
K -117
33.8 -108
34.7 -110
35.5 -107

This thing beats, or at least matches, the RX65 sensitivity levels...
:shock: :shock: :shock:

What do you guys think?

jimbonzzz
03-04-2006, 06:46 PM
That's really difficult to say. Measurements can vary a LOT from lab to lab depending on the test setup. Also, detector manufacturers in the past have been known to purposely inflate their published numbers by more than 10 db! So unless Michael B tests one in his lab, we won't know.

I would be pretty suspicious that the published numbers are that even, straight across the board.

Jim

Iknox
03-05-2006, 11:31 AM
x2 jim

licamell
03-06-2006, 08:20 PM
Anyone else find it a little bit ironic that as has been pointed out... it's not BG Tech, but it's CH Tech that makes this new RD. Any chance it's just some secondary cover company that just bumped up each letter by one? B->C, G->H? Anyways, just seemed a little weird to me.

jamessporting
03-17-2006, 12:15 PM
Hi everybody!

I'm a french radar detector user, and I've bought the NAXEL speedcrystal RD...


I have tested on french radar which use the K bande.
and it works very well! I detect the K band radar 2500 feet before
the speed control.

I bought it only 99euro!

It has been tested in a car magazine and the result was very
good : 2500 feet for K band radar and 2500 feet too for the LIDAR.

bye!

ghz1
03-17-2006, 03:20 PM
The Koreans love to copy (they say and improve..well maybe sometimes). Im sure you will find it to be stolen Tech.

SmaartAasSaabr
03-17-2006, 04:01 PM
That's the Chinese with the stolen tech :wink:

Mind you imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)

ghz1
03-18-2006, 02:30 AM
the Koreans to god bless em. Check this for the way they think. you know cell phones have cameras maybe you got 3 million pix or so if your lucky. Heres what the koreans do, instead of putting a camera with a cell phone they put a cell phone with a camera :lol: so you can get a 7.1 million pix camera with a cell phone :shock: Man what a phone you can add all the normal stuff to it like other lenes etc. Who knows with time what they will do with a detector maybe turn it into a hands feel phone or something. :wink:
ps It cost $1500 US tho :shock:

florenthouy
03-19-2008, 05:28 PM
If I was a betting man, I would guess that those are probably made by BG Tech. The detector has a "Strobe Detector" which is unique to the Cobras, also made by BG Tech.

Jim

OK, I guess I was wrong. It isn't made by BG Tech, it is made by another Korean company: CH-Tech Inc.

There is a version approved for sale in the US (KF-2030V), but I haven't seen them anywhere.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5817/naxel8oq.jpg
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/8159/naxel28gs.jpg

Here's the operator's manual (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=551970&native_or_pdf=pdf).

Hi,

I'm french and i'll buy one in the next weeks.
Do you think it's possible to mod in order to have a remote display?

Thanks

Florent

focalcivic
03-19-2008, 05:34 PM
If I was a betting man, I would guess that those are probably made by BG Tech. The detector has a "Strobe Detector" which is unique to the Cobras, also made by BG Tech.

Jim

OK, I guess I was wrong. It isn't made by BG Tech, it is made by another Korean company: CH-Tech Inc.

There is a version approved for sale in the US (KF-2030V), but I haven't seen them anywhere.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5817/naxel8oq.jpg
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/8159/naxel28gs.jpg

Here's the operator's manual (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=551970&native_or_pdf=pdf).

Since it is yellow and silver I am sold :wink:

Ray
03-19-2008, 06:38 PM
I'm waiting for the pink and silver....oh...ahh...urrr...did I say that out loud!? :oops: :lol:

RacerX
03-19-2008, 06:38 PM
Anyone else find it a little bit ironic that as has been pointed out... it's not BG Tech, but it's CH Tech that makes this new RD. Any chance it's just some secondary cover company that just bumped up each letter by one? B->C, G->H? Anyways, just seemed a little weird to me.

:lol: That was my first thought too.

also, it says, "Bande Ka : 34.300, 34.700, 34.900 GHz ", am i reading that right, that it would miss 33.8 and 35.5?
Guess i'll cancel my order. :lol:

SmaartAasSaabr
03-19-2008, 08:28 PM
It probably is doing that to try and get some usable sensitivity on 34,3.

JDS
03-19-2008, 08:39 PM
the Koreans to god bless em. Check this for the way they think. you know cell phones have cameras maybe you got 3 million pix or so if your lucky. Heres what the koreans do, instead of putting a camera with a cell phone they put a cell phone with a camera :lol: so you can get a 7.1 million pix camera with a cell phone :shock: Man what a phone you can add all the normal stuff to it like other lenes etc. Who knows with time what they will do with a detector maybe turn it into a hands feel phone or something. :wink:
ps It cost $1500 US tho :shock:I demand a link.