View Full Version : 4 NEW TEST VIDEOS UP! Stealth and POP mode vs V1 and X50
It's with great pleasure to have uploaded 4 new test videos for all of you to watch ABSOLUTELY FREE! The new test videos show the Valentine one battle it out against POP mode and Stealth mode. You can watch the videos on my website JammerTests.com.
http://www.laserjammer.citymax.com/i//V1_and_X50_against_stealth.jpg
Chris
Brent_Vino
04-15-2005, 01:38 PM
why are you testing the detectors side by side? This test is subjective solely on the fact that you are running the detectors side by side. :roll:
can you conduct the tests with only 1 detector at a time, please?
Thanks.
I did test the detectors one at a time on 2 other videos. Please look at my websites content more closely.
nvr2fast
04-15-2005, 03:15 PM
Good stuff!
jbird
04-15-2005, 05:16 PM
Awesome videos! This is objective proof that the V1 owns the X50 on K-band POP. I am curious to know which firmware version each unit had loaded during the test. I also would like to see the same test with Ka-band POP (as well as with Laser Atlanta Stealth Mode) performed to see if the results are the same or not.
A KA band POP radar gun will cost me $1200.00 and I really don't want to spend that kind of money for a POP test. I would rather spend $1,200.00 on a used lidar gun off Ebay if one will ever show up. The laser atlanta stealth mode was shot at the V1. Did you not see tha vid in the collection? It's near the bottom of my website www.jammertests.com
Chris
pemarsh
04-15-2005, 07:02 PM
OK....now what are all the X50 loyal users saying (I am on e of the x50 loyal users, and i dont know what to say).
What is the deal here????????
CLTX11
04-15-2005, 07:07 PM
JTW is using REV 3. REV 5 is out now, maybe the newer ones will have the same capability as the V1
pemarsh
04-15-2005, 07:14 PM
So, now who is going to send him a rev 5 x50??????
CLTX11
04-15-2005, 07:15 PM
So, now who is going to send him a rev 5 x50??????
Since you asked first, step up and take one for the team :wink:
Radar detector test videos have a turn around time of 3 days. You pay for shipping to me and I pay for shipping to you. If anyone wants to send me a rev. 5 please send me a message.
Chris
nvr2fast
04-15-2005, 07:53 PM
POP detection was IMPROVED in the REV 5, along with improved KA detection. Not sure about X or K band tho... i'm sure JTW will show the difference in X and K :D
Ghost
04-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Just curious, but how does one know what firmware version they have in their X50? :)
brick
04-15-2005, 07:55 PM
Easy... press and hold all the buttons on the X50 while you turn the knob on the left to turn it on. It will show the REV 5 (or whatever) then "RESET".
what version is your's?
crazyVOLVOrob
04-15-2005, 08:31 PM
A KA band POP radar gun will cost me $1200.00 and I really don't want to spend that kind of money for a POP test. I would rather spend $1,200.00 on a used lidar gun off Ebay if one will ever show up. The laser atlanta stealth mode was shot at the V1. Did you not see tha vid in the collection? It's near the bottom of my website www.jammertests.com
ChrisI have never seen a functional LIDAR on ebay :x
crazyVOLVOrob
04-15-2005, 08:33 PM
A KA band POP radar gun will cost me $1200.00 and I really don't want to spend that kind of money for a POP test. I would rather spend $1,200.00 on a used lidar gun off Ebay if one will ever show up. The laser atlanta stealth mode was shot at the V1. Did you not see tha vid in the collection? It's near the bottom of my website www.jammertests.com
Chrislooks like you were aiming directly at X50 not V1
jimbonzzz
04-15-2005, 08:35 PM
I've seen them on there before. Way out of my price range though.
What would be nice is if there was some comapny that would LEASE radar and lidar guns...
I'll rent a Prolaser 1 to anyone, but I'll need a $1,200.00 deposit incase it doesn't come back to me. I'll also rent out my GHS gun with a $300.00 deposit.
message me personally if anyone here is interested.
Chris
jimbonzzz
04-15-2005, 08:53 PM
A GHS eh?
The subject of a scandal in pennsylvania:
http://www.fightghs.com
jbird
04-15-2005, 09:23 PM
A KA band POP radar gun will cost me $1200.00 and I really don't want to spend that kind of money for a POP test. I would rather spend $1,200.00 on a used lidar gun off Ebay if one will ever show up. The laser atlanta stealth mode was shot at the V1. Did you not see tha vid in the collection? It's near the bottom of my website www.jammertests.com
Chris
Oops! I started downloading the videos from the bottom up and posted before I saw the stealth mode laser test. The Ka-band pop test will probably be repeated in the 2005 Speedzones annual detector test anyway. This evidence as well as the Ka instant on radar video is convincing me that my next detector after my RX65 dies or becomes outdated may well be a V1 if my finances can handle it. If shooter2jim could redo his tests like the JTW did, it would provide more objective evidence and silence the rational critics. BTW using the mirror the way you did was a clever idea so that it could be proven that both detectors were on and show each alert displayed. Thanks to everyone for posting videos. If I would have seen these videos and had the extra cash last year a V1 would probably be in my car now instead of the RX65!
happya$$
04-15-2005, 09:30 PM
You have an awesome detector with the RX65. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise
Keep in mind that the V1 falses like CRAZY!!! If you live in the city I recommend the X50 or RX65. Depending on where you live it probably isn't worth spending $400.00 on a detector that will just annoy you with falses.
Chris
happya$$
04-15-2005, 09:32 PM
Good point Chris
Ghost
04-15-2005, 09:55 PM
Easy... press and hold all the buttons on the X50 while you turn the knob on the left to turn it on. It will show the REV 5 (or whatever) then "RESET".
what version is your's?
Didn't work. Just told me that it was an 8500 X50, and came on as normal. No firmware version, no "RESET" message. This is assuming that "all buttons" means "both buttons", since there are only 2 that I can find. lol
nvr2fast
04-15-2005, 09:59 PM
Easy... press and hold all the buttons on the X50 while you turn the knob on the left to turn it on. It will show the REV 5 (or whatever) then "RESET".
what version is your's?
Didn't work. Just told me that it was an 8500 X50, and came on as normal. No firmware version, no "RESET" message. This is assuming that "all buttons" means "both buttons", since there are only 2 that I can find. lol
Nooooooooooooooooo... press the button on the front right of the X50 as well, next to screen.
Ghost
04-15-2005, 10:49 PM
Didn't work. Just told me that it was an 8500 X50, and came on as normal. No firmware version, no "RESET" message. This is assuming that "all buttons" means "both buttons", since there are only 2 that I can find. lol
Nooooooooooooooooo... press the button on the front right of the X50 as well, next to screen.
D'oh... I forgot all about the darn mute button. Always use the one on the SmartCord, so I forgot that the other one even existed. :oops:
nvr2fast
04-16-2005, 05:03 AM
Didn't work. Just told me that it was an 8500 X50, and came on as normal. No firmware version, no "RESET" message. This is assuming that "all buttons" means "both buttons", since there are only 2 that I can find. lol
Nooooooooooooooooo... press the button on the front right of the X50 as well, next to screen.
D'oh... I forgot all about the darn mute button. Always use the one on the SmartCord, so I forgot that the other one even existed. :oops:
Hehe you could TRY holding down that button instead... :lol:
Seven
04-16-2005, 08:15 AM
Awesome!!!
Keep up the good work. Are you gonna test any Laser Lammers soon?
Ghost
04-16-2005, 12:31 PM
D'oh... I forgot all about the darn mute button. Always use the one on the SmartCord, so I forgot that the other one even existed. :oops:
Hehe you could TRY holding down that button instead... :lol:
I'm on Rev 5. Heh, and the mute button on the SmartCord worked too. :)
pemarsh
04-16-2005, 03:28 PM
I would love to send my x50 over, but im busy comparing mine the the v1 i bought....need to return the v1 within 30 d to get my money back (unless i like it more).
So far, the real warnings of the two detectors are very similar...problem is the v1 falses so much, its difficult to pay much attention to it at all if my x50 is not also going off.
I have REV 5....the fact those videos were done on an old revision makes me feel much better about my x50.....sort of like comparing apples to oranges. But, still a very cool video to say the least.
carlito
04-16-2005, 03:33 PM
ALL I CAN SAY GREAT VIDEOS JAMMERTESTW. :( ESCORT IS GOOD BUT NOT THE BEST! :lol:VALENTINE ONE#1 AT ITS BEST :lol:
stealthJamal
04-16-2005, 07:32 PM
JTW,
Great videos. I noticed Escort does not tell their customers when they update the software. The only reason I found out they did was because I had problems with previous X50's I had and I noticed when I sent them in for repair that they upgraded the software. Hopefully you can test REV 5, be interesting to see the results compared to REV 3.
nvr2fast
04-16-2005, 09:34 PM
Wow... doing an X50 REV3 VS REV5 would be awesome, like of like the V1 1.7 VS 1.8 comparos :D
I would be REALLY interested to see if the REV5 improves things... what a shocker it would be if it actually made things WORSE :?
GTO_04
04-18-2005, 10:18 PM
My experience with V1 is that the vast majority of the false alarms are on X band, which is to be expected given its superior X band sensitivity. Using the "L" mode drastically reduces the false alarms while maintaining full sensitivity on K and Ka bands. The BELs false a lot too if you leave them in highway mode.
If anyone is relying on the auto sensitivity mode (called autoscan in some of the BELs) beware, it can really cut down on your sensitivity. It would be better to use one of the city modes.
I like my BEL985, it is a good radar detector, but it's not as good as the V1. BTW, the 985 outperformed the 995 that I tried and returned.
GTO_04
Tromping_Maniac
04-19-2005, 12:23 AM
JTW,
Any chance of testing a RX65 vs. V1 1.8 to Stealth Laser?
BTW: Love your site, great work, keep it up!
Veil guy is sending me the big 3(rx65,x50,v1.8) radar detectors. I'll have them a little longer, so I'll have time to get a little more creative with how I shoot the videos.
I'm going to try a "real world" scenario.
Chris
CLTX11
04-19-2005, 02:05 AM
Veil guy is sending me the big 3(rx65,x50,v1.8) radar detectors. I'll have them a little longer, so I'll have time to get a little more creative with how I shoot the videos.
I'm going to try a "real world" scenario.
Chris
Are you taking requests on what ppl want to see?
Veil guy is sending me the big 3(rx65,x50,v1.8) radar detectors. I'll have them a little longer, so I'll have time to get a little more creative with how I shoot the videos.
I'm going to try a "real world" scenario.
Chris
Are you taking requests on what ppl want to see?
My door is always open for new ideas. I may not agree with other peoples "scientific" theories on why outcomes of the tests are this way or this way, but if you can think of a way to test these detectors that will satisfy many skeptics view points(i.e. radar detector is plugged in) bring on the ideas.
I'm also trying to get my hands on a whistler pro 58 I think it's called.
Surgeon made some comments here and there and I'll try to stabalize the radar gun somehow and keep each detector in the exact same position as the others.
Chris
V1 Dave
04-19-2005, 05:20 AM
Cover up the V1 rear antenna with cloth (won't scratch lens) then foil then maybe cloth again.
Get rid of the radar absorbing blanket. :roll:
Maybe these things will make Surgeon & Radarboy12312
happy :shock:
happya$$
04-19-2005, 07:06 AM
good point V1 Dave. But then again Surgeon will come up with another hypothesis on some bull crap reason why the V1 won.
nvr2fast
04-19-2005, 08:03 AM
Not sure if you have any photoradar around... but perhaps you could try that?
CLTX11
04-19-2005, 01:02 PM
Veil guy is sending me the big 3(rx65,x50,v1.8) radar detectors. I'll have them a little longer, so I'll have time to get a little more creative with how I shoot the videos.
I'm going to try a "real world" scenario.
Chris
Are you taking requests on what ppl want to see?
My door is always open for new ideas. I may not agree with other peoples "scientific" theories on why outcomes of the tests are this way or this way, but if you can think of a way to test these detectors that will satisfy many skeptics view points(i.e. radar detector is plugged in) bring on the ideas.
I'm also trying to get my hands on a whistler pro 58 I think it's called.
Surgeon made some comments here and there and I'll try to stabalize the radar gun somehow and keep each detector in the exact same position as the others.
Chris
I wasnt going to critique the test's one bit. With you putting your time and effort into it I would not bash it one bit. If I didnt like they way you test the RD's I would not watch your videos much less bash you for it. I was just wondering about the differences in the X50 REV3 vs. REV5. Lets just see if the REV5 out performs the REV3.
IMO, POP falses to much on my X50 so I disable it anyways and until it becomes a bigger threat I wont worry about it.
Again, thanks for your input on this board and the vidoes you shoot to give us something to visually see.
lordhamster
04-19-2005, 01:06 PM
Cover up the V1 rear antenna with cloth (won't scratch lens) then foil then maybe cloth again.
Get rid of the radar absorbing blanket. :roll:
Maybe these things will make Surgeon & Radarboy12312
happy :shock:
I think the rear antenna can be disabled via software.
Don't use foil, they'll claim the foil acts as an antenna extention.
GTO_04
04-19-2005, 10:03 PM
If the X50 can't pick up the stealth mode laser, it is unlikely that the RX-65 will pick it up. They are the same basic hardware, some to the BELs and whistles may be different. The only difference would be if they had any software upgrades, which would be interesting to check. Has the RX-65 had any upgrades like the X50?
GTO_04
compu44
04-19-2005, 10:08 PM
Bel told me a couple months ago that there had been a few different software revisions, but none of them had an effect on actualy radar/laser performance.
nvr2fast
04-19-2005, 11:23 PM
Bel told me a couple months ago that there had been a few different software revisions, but none of them had an effect on actualy radar/laser performance.
Hum... then why the changes and revisions? What is actually changed i wonder...
CLTX11
04-19-2005, 11:43 PM
Bel told me a couple months ago that there had been a few different software revisions, but none of them had an effect on actualy radar/laser performance.
Hum... then why the changes and revisions? What is actually changed i wonder...
its a conspiracy, they just make it say REV 5 :wink:
compu44
04-19-2005, 11:45 PM
The most that I could get from them was that it was an "internal change mainly for their benefit".
nvr2fast
04-20-2005, 12:09 AM
The most that I could get from them was that it was an "internal change mainly for their benefit".
for THEIR benefit? does that mean it is crappier... or the revision allows the software to work with cheaper/crappier hardware components?! :x
pemarsh
04-20-2005, 08:44 AM
Well, we will all soon know if the x50 rev 5 is better than rev 3
kai445
04-20-2005, 10:58 AM
Well, we will all soon know if the x50 rev 5 is better than rev 3
I bought a Rev 5, so I sure as hell hope the newer one is better :-P
pemarsh
04-22-2005, 02:42 PM
I am hoping the REV 5 performs better as well.
It is all well and good that the v1 detected the all important POP which is an upcoming threat, but my question is this. Pop, which I have not encountered, and all the mode does so far is give me extra falses. The V1 seems to be worse. Has anyone else found the same issues?
kai445
04-22-2005, 09:39 PM
@Joe:
The problem with POP is the detectors have to react so fast to the threat, they cant afford to miss out on the alert. The new V1's have J mode at least to make up for it.
My x50 falses occasionally on POP for no reason so I just disabled it until I travel to a state with BEEIII's or when my state buys them (No state near me has pop yet).
My problem is that I live in a state that is supposed to use POP. I am still waiting the be "Saved" . I drive with it in POP mode. I don't want to take the chance and not have it on. I thought about disabeling x mode and then lo and behold I ran into a county cop still using x band. They need to update! Ha ha
robert
04-23-2005, 08:15 AM
My problem is that I live in a state that is supposed to use POP. I am still waiting the be "Saved" . I drive with it in POP mode. I don't want to take the chance and not have it on. I thought about disabeling x mode and then lo and behold I ran into a county cop still using x band. They need to update! Ha ha
Bingo. Same situation here. My buddy got hit with X-band not far from my house last night.... so gotta leave that on. POP falses every now and then (though not very often thankfully) but I'd rather not turn it off either.
It's all a matter of knowing what to do with the warning the RD gives you :D
pemarsh
04-23-2005, 01:45 PM
Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know if your state has POP or not???
I can't rember where I read it, but I think that Radar Roy might have it on his web sight. I know that Indiana was one of the states. You can also get info from escortradar.com (radar detector news) it talks about issues nationwide.
nvr2fast
04-24-2005, 01:03 AM
I wonder how the tests have gone between REV3 and REV5 X50?! No word?
V1 Dave
05-08-2005, 12:07 PM
Chris,
Any update on when you are going to do the testing on Veil guy's and my unit?
happya$$
05-08-2005, 12:08 PM
He told me by Tuesday he will have the videos up
V1 Dave
05-08-2005, 12:15 PM
Cool thanks happy..............(as I am trying to make it to the 200 posts mark) :P
GTO_04
05-09-2005, 04:36 PM
why are you testing the detectors side by side? This test is subjective solely on the fact that you are running the detectors side by side. :roll:
can you conduct the tests with only 1 detector at a time, please?
Thanks.
Testing the detectors side by side is to the X50s advantage, because having the V1 next to the X50 desensitizes the V1. The V1 does not desensitize the X50.
GTO_04
nvr2fast
05-09-2005, 06:02 PM
why are you testing the detectors side by side? This test is subjective solely on the fact that you are running the detectors side by side. :roll:
can you conduct the tests with only 1 detector at a time, please?
Thanks.
Testing the detectors side by side is to the X50s advantage, because having the V1 next to the X50 desensitizes the V1. The V1 does not desensitize the X50.
GTO_04
Well known that the X50 has better filtering than the V1. But I think if you turn off X band and turn the rest to no filtering on the V1, it shouldn't make a difference?!
GTO_04
05-09-2005, 06:54 PM
why are you testing the detectors side by side? This test is subjective solely on the fact that you are running the detectors side by side. :roll:
can you conduct the tests with only 1 detector at a time, please?
Thanks.
Testing the detectors side by side is to the X50s advantage, because having the V1 next to the X50 desensitizes the V1. The V1 does not desensitize the X50.
GTO_04
Well known that the X50 has better filtering than the V1. But I think if you turn off X band and turn the rest to no filtering on the V1, it shouldn't make a difference?!
The X50 desensitizes the V1 on K and Ka band too, it is most noticeable on Ka band.
GTO_04
The new Valentine One POP test is out!!!!
If you have any questions about the V1 pop test by www.jammertests.com please post a reply on the V1 test video thread at http://www.radardetector.net/New-video-05-19%3A-Valentine-One-V1.8-POP-test-1616t.php
http://www.laserjammer.citymax.com/i//V1_pop_pic_7.jpg
Passport 8500 POP test video up!
http://www.laserjammer.citymax.com/i//X50_pop_pic_7.jpg
The "real world" Escort Passport 8500 X50 test video is now here for all of you to watch free of charge. Please send all of your comments and questions to the X50 POP video thread here
http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=19606#19606
Chris
stalkervision
05-20-2005, 06:10 PM
Passport 8500 POP test video up!
http://www.laserjammer.citymax.com/i//X50_pop_pic_7.jpg
The "real world" Escort Passport 8500 X50 test video is now here for all of you to watch free of charge. Please send all of your comments and questions to the X50 POP video thread here
http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=19606#19606
Chris
What I would like to see is some video done of the speed accuracy of different POP guns in pop mode only. Mike Valentine has claimed for as long as pop as been out that it is inaccurate and I would like to see it this is indeed true or not... :?
carlito
05-20-2005, 10:50 PM
Passport 8500 POP test video up!
http://www.laserjammer.citymax.com/i//X50_pop_pic_7.jpg
The "real world" Escort Passport 8500 X50 test video is now here for all of you to watch free of charge. Please send all of your comments and questions to the X50 POP video thread here
http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?p=19606#19606
Chris
What I would like to see is some video done of the speed accuracy of different POP guns in pop mode only. Mike Valentine has claimed for as long as pop as been out that it is inaccurate and I would like to see it this is indeed true or not... :?