Originally Posted by Esoterica
I guess just quoting you and not adding any comment of his own means he must agree with you?
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I guess just quoting you and not adding any comment of his own means he must agree with you?
See, like CJ just did to me
Imitation is the highest form of flatteryI guess just quoting you and not adding any comment of his own means he must agree with you?
Dude i can bet though the S7 is a very noticably sensitive then the m4..Well at least it was to me when I had the 6.1 x-50 crapper!!!
I have a x50 S7 and a 995 S7 !!!
The m4 on the x-50 is blind, not sure about any other m4 platformed detectors...
S7 was ok in its day but there is better now a day with the 9500i's platform, from what i hear...
So the S7 wasnt the best but, I can guarantee them two x-50's were way different, s7 on my top list of the two!!!
Just have to take good care of older detectors, once its of of tune itll never be the same!
Lord I will solve the mystery quote, sometimes when I try to post it won't let me, so I cut and paste until I can get it to post, in your case I assume I gave up and forgot to cut and paste what I said, and then it finally took without the post.Imitation is the highest form of flatteryI guess just quoting you and not adding any comment of his own means he must agree with you?
Thats when the edit button at the top of your post comes in handy.
I can't proof read my posts easily at all in the little tiny text box the BB software gives you to type into. I run my screen resolution at 1920X1200 so that text box gets pretty dam tiny at that resolution. I post and see absolute moronic errors in my post and hit that edit button numerous times after each post (I always forget about the preview button, duh).
I don't know what resolution everyone else uses, but when other people see my actual laptop screen they always ask me "how can you stand having everything so small?" or "why is everything so tiny on your screen?".
If they have to ask, clearly they'd never understand the answer so I just tell them its broke that way.
Once you get use to it, and it does take getting use to it, all that extra screen real estate isn't something easily just given up to tolerating a lower resolution. When I see a screen even still running at 1024X768 I'm like whoa, stand back, that shlt is freaking huge, you can't see anything on it because it looks so magnified that all you see is a small portion of the file you have open. 800X600 still? That thing needs to be in a dumpster, screen smashed out so no one dumpster dives and ever tries to use it again.
I believe what your are noticing is the shaving off slightly of off axis sensitivity on the m4 to eliminate, or at least cut down on, useless side signals from doors. I was confused and concerned by this as well in the beginning. I have spent alot of time evaluating the two (seperate of course, not run together) and I believe the m4 design by Escort/ Beltronics is quite ingenious, not a detriment. The m4 is right there against a true threat. CJR made a post a while back in regards to his or a theory on the "cosine error effect" I believe. From what I have seen, this theory is dead on.
So technically, what your calling "more sensitive" in regards to the s7 is not correct in my opinion because the design performance appears to be intentional and had a positive effect on the efficiency of the detector so to speak. Not a decrease in sensitivity against a real threat. To call the m4 "blind" depends on your point of view and personal preferences on a detector. If your the V1 type who loves the 360 degree detection then thats fine. Some of us, in fact alot of us, like some of the useless side signals passed on and only want true threats coming up. Or as close as possible. This is why I would jump to the m4's defense at this point. In my opinion, it is unfair to flatly say the m4 is less sensitive and "blind" in such a general way. It confuses new users, as I was myself, and potentially steers them away from purchasing what could be, their perfect detector in terms of performance.
If you have proof though (ie: a video) that proves without a shadow of a doubt the s7 is superior to the m4 to a real threat, I am more than open to it. Until then, I have to go by what I have seen with my experience with the two platforms myself.
Focal, I was just having fun with it. I know that wasn't the full extent of your post.
Also, the M4 used in the 9500, is different from the M4 used in the X50/Vector series. There are pics on this site. Look at them. As LV stated, the current M4 is equal to the former S7 in performance and better in filtering. I USED to be a hard core S7 fanatic.
Yes LordVector, Below is the specific thread and some of the post in my 9500I tricks thread.CJR made a post a while back in regards to his or a theory on the "cosine error effect" I believe. From what I have seen, this theory is dead on.
http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...eners+opinions
Signals from motion sensors are, in most cases off axis from the side of the road, not sitting in the middle of the road facing you or very strong. So by just shaving a little off axis you maintain detection range with creating less falses.
Most falses will alert your RD for a couple hundred feet when you are near them because they are usually over 40 degrees shooting across the road. Now if theirs a LEO off axis down the road you will pick up his signal much, much farther. Even if he’s 40 degrees off axis he’s so far down the road when you receive his signal he's essentially only 10 degrees off axis.
The one big addition that i beleve Escort did to inhance the above is the horn/antenna/mixer on the 9500I is designed to help filter out those useless off axis falses. The 9500I has very good sensitivity but on signals passed 35 degrees the sensitivity starts to decrease(detection range is not affected and that’s also why “H” mode is still quiet). The horn actually takes into account for “Cosine error/effect” any radar more than 40 degrees off axis will show less than 80% of your speed so this is considered a low threat. For example if you are going 70 in a 55 zone and the LEO’s radar is 40 degrees off axis, his radar will show only 56mph.
This dramatically reduces the falses from automatic doors without sacrificing real threat detection range.
[quote="CJR238"]Yes I find it to be an interesting theory, if you find your alert warning distance to be fine think of it as your “detection range” not “sensitivity”. Sensitivity is for girls, detection range is for Men. :wink:
I believe the antenna/mixer is what makes the X50/Vector series different than the 9500I other than the obvious.
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