nonX50 more sensitive to laser than X50?

**ActiveKAjam** · 06-16-2008, 10:59 PM

All of my RD's will always alert to laser %100 of the time when I put a TV remote directly to the front sensor (except a cobra I had) but when I tried this with my X50 it would hardly ever do it. It would go off 2 of 10 times maybe when I had it DIRECTLY to the sensor, as in practically touching it. With my nonX50, it would go off when I stood in front of my car and pressed the remote. I know a TV remote's not a good lidar gun simulator by any means, but my question is, does the X50 some how filter out some types of lidar that could be falses (infinitis etc.) or is there just something wrong with my X50's laser sensor? I'm not worried at all as RD's won't save you from a laser trap anyways, just curious.

**FlyinZX-10R** · 06-16-2008, 11:01 PM

my non X50 8500 picks up my local PD's stalker laser, and mine is mounted behind a black tinted windscreen. Kinda surprised me.

**ActiveKAjam** · 06-16-2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by FlyinZX-10R

my non X50 8500 picks up my local PD's stalker laser, and mine is mounted behind a black tinted windscreen. Kinda surprised me.

That's amazing.

Anyone here get alot of laser falses with their X50 when they get behind an infiniti?

**ejames7** · 06-16-2008, 11:46 PM

I have a 4:3 GPS screen in my car and the day I went to get my nonX50, the guy was showing me everything and he took it off the mount and brought it down in front of the screen and laser went nuts. He said 'oh it's an industrial area' which it was so I thought 'ok' until it happend again at my house. Later on I posted on my car board on my 'newest mod' and the other 8500 guys said theirs did the same thing with the GPS screen. Since then it has only done it once and it was when I was trying to make it happen then dropped it on my floor and picked it up and powered it on then it went off. I was trying to show my dad it had laser lol.

In real life it has only gone off twice with laser and that was in the same week and both times I saw the cops who were shooting. I saw some comparo on youtube of a X50 and a V1 and when this guy was doing the stalker one the V1 went nuts and the X50 didn't do a thing. I may have laser models messed up. It was the one they say beats RD's which I thought was the stalker?

I will watch for the Infiniti's. My buddy has an M45 (older) and a RX65 and his has never done the laser thing. When we went to Indy for a car meet he said he kept getting LASER hits in weird places. I thought it had something to do with it being in his other car but who knows.

**ActiveKAjam** · 06-16-2008, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by ejames7

I have a 4:3 GPS screen in my car and the day I went to get my nonX50, the guy was showing me everything and he took it off the mount and brought it down in front of the screen and laser went nuts. He said 'oh it's an industrial area' which it was so I thought 'ok' until it happend again at my house. Later on I posted on my car board on my 'newest mod' and the other 8500 guys said theirs did the same thing with the GPS screen. Since then it has only done it once and it was when I was trying to make it happen then dropped it on my floor and picked it up and powered it on then it went off. I was trying to show my dad it had laser lol.

In real life it has only gone off twice with laser and that was in the same week and both times I saw the cops who were shooting. I saw some comparo on youtube of a X50 and a V1 and when this guy was doing the stalker one the V1 went nuts and the X50 didn't do a thing. I may have laser models messed up. It was the one they say beats RD's which I thought was the stalker?

I will watch for the Infiniti's. My buddy has an M45 (older) and a RX65 and his has never done the laser thing. When we went to Indy for a car meet he said he kept getting LASER hits in weird places. I thought it had something to do with it being in his other car but who knows.

Thanks for the reply ejames all input is apreciated here. Well so far it does look like there's a possibility that the non X50 falses more to laser than the X50 but I'm still not %100 sure yet, I'm still thinking I may have a faulty laser sensor. I seen 1 video on youtube that outrun made specificaly testing an X50 with a TV remote, but it says that vid. is a year old, who knows if escort upgraded the IR sensors on the X50 by now I know the new ZR4 was doing the same exact thing when someone made a vid of trying to set of a ZR4 head with a TV remote but I think thats just because it looks for specific pulse rates for real guns.

As for that vid. you were talking about, both the V1 and the X50 alerted to the stalker, but only the V1 alerted to laser atlanta stealth mode (not surprising) witch was the second gun used in that vid.

**below_the_radar** · 06-17-2008, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by dodgesrt4driver

All of my RD's will always alert to laser %100 of the time when I put a TV remote directly to the front sensor (except a cobra I had) but when I tried this with my X50 it would hardly ever do it. It would go off 2 of 10 times maybe when I had it DIRECTLY to the sensor, as in practically touching it. With my nonX50, it would go off when I stood in front of my car and pressed the remote. I know a TV remote's not a good lidar gun simulator by any means, but my question is, does the X50 some how filter out some types of lidar that could be falses (infinitis etc.) or is there just something wrong with my X50's laser sensor? I'm not worried at all as RD's won't save you from a laser trap anyways, just curious.

Yup, I got bit by a similar situation and almost made a post stating what a fabulous Laser detector my older radar detector was. (The real manufacturer's name is forbidden on this forum, but it starts with )

I could take a Mitsubishi TV remote, a home-made laser tester I made (circa 1999), or even one I had purchased from an individual off this forum, and the K4x would detect it well over 120 feet, where my X50 would only detect it 40 feet away and the V1 less than 10 feet or not at all.

I thought WoW, is the legacy true of the now 8 year old technology of the product line?

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Although it did kick-A$$ at detecting the fat pulse widths, repetition rates and wavelength of "radar laser testers" or TV remotes, when the was confronted with the scatter from an actual police lidar gun it failed miserably compared to the competition mentioned above.

So the bottom line is that enhanced discrimination capabilities have been added to new detectors to filter out non-Police Lidar signals, and their abilities to detect the narrow pulse widths of current police Lidar have been optimized. The usage of TV remotes or other infrared sources are no longer a true gauge of a RD's laser performance.

**below_the_radar** · 06-17-2008, 02:21 AM

**ActiveKAjam** · 06-17-2008, 02:57 AM

I'm so glad you chimed in to this thread, that makes me happy as hell.

**jdong** · 06-17-2008, 05:27 PM

As others have said and I've also noticed with my X50, these laser circuits seem VERY adept at validating pulse rates and wavelengths to spot-on police LIDAR. What the OP is noticing is most likely this superior filtering effect.

**ActiveKAjam** · 06-17-2008, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by jdong

As others have said and I've also noticed with my X50, these laser circuits seem VERY adept at validating pulse rates and wavelengths to spot-on police LIDAR. What the OP is noticing is most likely this superior filtering effect.

I think I'm going to buy one of those laser testers on this site just to see. If it was doing the same thing then, that would mean there's something deffinatley something wrong with the IR sensor, with the exception of the stealth mode pulse.