9500i vs. 9500ix

[ThE_JOkeR]

no i didnt mess with any of the settings. i feel that a product should come out of the box ready to perform. the v1 obviously isnt a product like that

Okay, Thanks for the reply.

[TSi+WRX]

no i didnt mess with any of the settings. i feel that a product should come out of the box ready to perform. the v1 obviously isnt a product like that

^ That's a difference of opinion/preference, truly.

Remember that the stated mission of the V1 is total situational awareness.

In its raw form, it simply alerts to EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, and allows the end-user, the driver, to be the final filter.

In your case, 335, you're simply not willing to be the final filter - and there's nothing wrong with that.

But there is really no "fault" here to be had, certainly not with the V1.

Instead, it is simply a mismatch of your preferences with the capabilities of the device, that's all.

[Governator]

^ That's a difference of opinion/preference, truly.

Remember that the stated mission of the V1 is total situational awareness.

In its raw form, it simply alerts to EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, and allows the end-user, the driver, to be the final filter.

In your case, 335, you're simply not willing to be the final filter - and there's nothing wrong with that.

But there is really no "fault" here to be had, certainly not with the V1.

Instead, it is simply a mismatch of your preferences with the capabilities of the device, that's all.

Well said and frankly the same can be said for just about any capable product.

[djrams80]

^ That's a difference of opinion/preference, truly.

Remember that the stated mission of the V1 is total situational awareness.

In its raw form, it simply alerts to EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, and allows the end-user, the driver, to be the final filter.

In your case, 335, you're simply not willing to be the final filter - and there's nothing wrong with that.

But there is really no "fault" here to be had, certainly not with the V1.

Instead, it is simply a mismatch of your preferences with the capabilities of the device, that's all.

Fully agree. If the user lives in remote Montana, the V1 is ready to roll right out of the box. If the user lives where I do, much programming is necessary to make it useable.

[brianric]

^ That's a difference of opinion/preference, truly.

Remember that the stated mission of the V1 is total situational awareness.

In its raw form, it simply alerts to EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, and allows the end-user, the driver, to be the final filter.

I've been a V1 user for 13 years, but getting ready to order the 9500ix for that very reason you mentioned. In town my V1 is useless, end up shutting it off, and sometimes forget to turn it on when on the highway. Going to work, as soon as I past check point Charlie (I work at a nuke plant) I have to shut the V1 off, mind you I'm at 20 mph or less at that point. I will miss the arrows, but with red light and speed camera alerts, the 9500 ix will more than make up for it. Besides, I can always use the V1 for my three trips to New England each year (I live in New Jersey).

[TSi+WRX]

I can always use the V1 for my three trips to New England each year (I live in New Jersey).

^

Just be sure you use your V1 enough, in the meantime, that you don't lose your "bond" with it.

"Train as you fight, and fight as you train." I'm a firm believer in that - and one of the reasons why I have not pursued a "dual detector" (not as in both at the same time, but rather, one for city use, one for open highway) is because I know that, in living for 99% of my actual driving-time (and nearly 90% of driven miles) with the 9500i, that I would not be well "in-tune" with the V1's alerts and behavior, to make best-use out of it.

Be sure you maintain good enough of a tie with your V1, to make best use of it on the open highway.

[akarol]

That's all fine and dandy, but that V1 mission statement is far overdue. I don't know anyone who spent $400+ on something to detect microwaves and door sensors. The reason why we invest in these RDs is to detect traffic patrol radar and avoid a more costly consequence. Any radar detector that filters out the unecessary junk definetely takes the cake.

[TSi+WRX]

^ I'm all for filtering, don't get me wrong. This is, admittedly, the reason why I have been a user of Escort products since 1997/8.

The problem is that filtering - when it is dependent on "A/I," if you will - is never 100% accurate.

Yes, I do believe in TrueLock. I've seen it work, many times.

But on those times when I do drive by a patrol in that area, I also cannot be 100% certain that they are not operating RADAR.

There's always room for doubt.

With the V1, in that it can, if you choose to, allow it to alert indiscriminately to each and every signal, *YOU* become the final filter, and then the responsibility of acting/reacting to such alerts becomes solely your responsibility.

In the areas which I drive through, this would equate to my knowing that there's 2 X-band door-openers and 2 k-band openers in this or that particular area, looking down at the alert counters, and knowing that "everything's all clear," versus a day when I might look over and say "uh-oh, that's a third k-band signal, that's not right.

But alas, given my physical location, my daily routes of travel, and the demands of my passengers (and even, at times, myself), I can't put up with such inputs, and I thus rely on technology to be the filter, for the sake of a quieter and more civilized ride.

But make no mistake, in depending on this technology, I well know that it is opening a chink in the armor.

There is a time and a place (and a user) for the out-of-the-box, unadulterated, filter-free V1.

It's all about end-user preferences.

The tools are there. Neither is necessarily "faulty." Both simply have their shortcomings.

It's simply the bad pairing of the detector to the user that becomes the true fault.

[djrams80]

I am now 100% convinced that Escort does a better job of filtering than I do. It's on the job every second while in operation, while I tend to be complacent at times. Add in the factor that my bogey counter is not at all reliable and I tend to press the mute button too much, Truelock becomes a no brainer.

[TSi+WRX]

^ We're all human.

Yes, occasionally, I ride the FailBus, too.

And as many of our fellow brothers' confessions have shown, this is all too possible, no matter what the detector used.

But yes, growing complacent with the V1 is potentially the BIGGEST red-flag that anyone can throw. It's a definite way direct to a ticket.

Still, I don't really consider this a fault of the detector - but rather, the end user.

It would be, on my scale of things, akin to ignoring CJR's "Risk Scenarios," for usage of TrueLock.