Gahh!! Another failed 9500ci install.

[stlcardsfan]

Then cops would have to try harder to catch speeders. It would suck if everyone had countermeasures.

Hence the CB radios! Everyone would know where the cops are at all times anyways.

Good point! CB and a RD would be all you needed.

[superlubricity]

We should really have a "What not to do" or "Installations gone bad" forum . . .

[trailtow]

Don't you think they would be better rabbits if they installed it correctly and they were amazed? Imagine if every single person on the road had a top of the line detector and a CB...

I remember Alex Roy saying that if everyone installed a cb in their cars the roads would be a lot safer

[swarga]

I remember Alex Roy saying that if everyone installed a cb in their cars the roads would be a lot safer

I'm not so sure about that.

If you had the ability to just pick up a microphone and speak to that driver who just cut you off, what would you say to him?

I personally believe there would be a lot more "Road Rage" incidents because everybody would be telling each other what ****ty drivers they are and getting into fights.

[TSi+WRX]

I really hope that installer realizes that he, as with everyone - myself included - will always have something to learn, and that this is just one such case.

I continue to be amazed at the fact that installers and various auto-enthusiasts would just take the manufacturer's recommendation as Biblical. These are the same type of people who will research for hours, days, or even weeks, before even putting a single aftermarket performance component on their car - visiting various enthusiast communities and getting people's opinion and sorting through a mountain of data - and would otherwise never trust the word of dealerships and vendors.

Yet, they turn around, and start citing the words of Escort and its representatives, who've been proven inconsistent or just plain wrong, times over by our community members.

Why the double standard?

People need to realize that they need to look to the proper enthusiast community for the best, most impartial, information.

I don't understand why people who shun their dealership's service department and instead would read for hours per day on websites such as BITOG would, all of a sudden, just turn sheep, and use the "I talked to Escort" statement as a defense.

Is it that they're trying to make their install, which they've completed for a customer, sound/look better than it is, to hopefully appease the customer before they, themselves, find commentary to the contrary, and come storming back into their showroom or shop? Or is it just ego? Or is it truly not knowing better?

Whatever the case, I think that these shops can do better.

They didn't get to where they are today - in the high end of the business - by doing shoddy work, and that is precisely what these kinds of installs are, half-ass'ed.

They need to dedicate themselves to this aspect of the upgrading/customizing/performance field as they do things like suspension/chassis and footwork setup/modifications, powertrain modifications and tuning, engine-building, and ICE/AV.

[focalcivic]

Here is the real highlight of the post:



"Great install!!! You can see my (not allowed to mention radar) indash install in a nearby thread. I really wanted the 9500 built in but the lack of rear radar detection killed the deal.

[swarga]

I continue to be amazed at the fact that installers and various auto-enthusiasts would just take the manufacturer's recommendation as Biblical.

In this case, it turns out that Escort has never recommended the shifters be placed behind any type of grille. The Escort rep over on Escort's forum confirmed it.

Seems that installer was just making **** up.

[Stealth Stalker]

I really wanted the 9500 built in but the lack of rear radar detection killed the deal.

LOL! That's the first thing that cracked me up about that post. Like Allen says, that's someone who obviously never did the slightest bit of research beyond the manufacturers propaganda. If he ever reads Cobra's literature, I'm sure he'll be crushed to realise he could have had himself a 16 band detector!

It's an excellent point, Allen. Not being a car guy myself, I hadn't thought of it that way. But I am a consummately anal enthusiast about anything I undertake, not making the first move until I have researched it to an obsessive extreme. So I understand exactly what you mean, and I totally agree. It does sound like they too quickly and easily punted responsibility for this boner. That's very disappointing to see. I would hope that, deep down inside, they have at least the slightest bit of integrity urging them to do the research before the next job so they don't repeat the same mistakes again.

I haven't been back to the original thread in a few days. Has anyone offered to go test the guy?

[TSi+WRX]

I continue to be amazed at the fact that installers and various auto-enthusiasts would just take the manufacturer's recommendation as Biblical.

In this case, it turns out that Escort has never recommended the shifters be placed behind any type of grille. The Escort rep over on Escort's forum confirmed it.

Seems that installer was just making **** up.

^ NICE detective work!

[EscortRadar]

I continue to be amazed at the fact that installers and various auto-enthusiasts would just take the manufacturer's recommendation as Biblical.

In this case, it turns out that Escort has never recommended the shifters be placed behind any type of grille. The Escort rep over on Escort's forum confirmed it.

Seems that installer was just making **** up.

In our installation training material and videos we highly recommend a totally unobstructed view for the shifters (our manuals are freely available in pdf format on our website, EscortRadar dot com). In our training videos we point out that it is possible to have a very small obstruction between the shifter's receiving and transmitting diodes but that is all.

We understand that some customers do not want their vehicle modded or have modules poking out of them, and that is understandable, but the customer should also be aware that obstructing the diodes will result in very weak laser shifting performance.