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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

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    but technically it is not, there have been enough changes to the antenna that they had to get a new FCC ID, who knows if those changes helped and maybe in the lab it was more sensitive but as you can see it did not transfer out to the real world.
    There are no changes to the antenna. The M3 used in the Flatline is the exact same antenna as in the Sti, Sti-R and 9500ci. The only difference is in the software.

    As for the FCC ID, the first 3 letters are assigned to Escort, the last digits/letters are the product identifier. Since this is a "new" product, it gets a new FCC ID.
    actually the FCC does not give out new numbers unless the antenna has changed. Look at Whistler, the SE series are new but seeing as it is the same antenna as the older pro 78 but different firmware they didn't have to get a new number. And I have seen pictures inside of the new redline horn and the sti horn and they are different.
    Looks like we're at a standoff!!!

    1) You believe that the Redline has a new antenna, hence the new FCC ID
    2) I believe the antennas are the exact same, the only change in FCC ID is a result of this being repackaged as a new "product."

    Anyone else care to side with one or the other position?


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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Since the company likes to switch to cheaper parts.....they might have just did that and needed to register it with the FCC, but that is just a wild guess.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Bel Sti Internal Photos

    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/f...ive_or_pdf=pdf


    Redline Internal Photos

    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/f...ive_or_pdf=pdf



    Antennas look identical to me.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    here are some difference that I saw really quick, I'm sure there are more


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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Out of all the detector u tested. Which one is the best to you.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry540i View Post
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    but technically it is not, there have been enough changes to the antenna that they had to get a new FCC ID, who knows if those changes helped and maybe in the lab it was more sensitive but as you can see it did not transfer out to the real world.
    There are no changes to the antenna. The M3 used in the Flatline is the exact same antenna as in the Sti, Sti-R and 9500ci. The only difference is in the software.

    As for the FCC ID, the first 3 letters are assigned to Escort, the last digits/letters are the product identifier. Since this is a "new" product, it gets a new FCC ID.
    actually the FCC does not give out new numbers unless the antenna has changed. Look at Whistler, the SE series are new but seeing as it is the same antenna as the older pro 78 but different firmware they didn't have to get a new number. And I have seen pictures inside of the new redline horn and the sti horn and they are different.
    Looks like we're at a standoff!!!

    1) You believe that the Redline has a new antenna, hence the new FCC ID
    2) I believe the antennas are the exact same, the only change in FCC ID is a result of this being repackaged as a new "product."

    Anyone else care to side with one or the other position?


    J/
    I believe jerry540i is correct in that this could be the exact same antenna as in the STI but would require a New FCC ID authorization under the Escort Inc brand.

    I do agree, however, with Languy99 that there is a subtle difference between the RedLine and STI antennas based on photos registered with the FCC. The RedLine's K/Ka LOs appear more like the STi-R with what appears to be additional amps that are not present in the STI M3 photos. Aside from that, there could also be better quality components which are impossible to discern in these photos.

    I'd have to believe the difference between the sensitivity of the STI and the 9500ci/STi-R is more than just software..........unless we think being behind a windshield alone makes up the whole difference.

    I don't think there is much if any difference between the RedLine M3 and the 9500ci/STi-R. That is great news in that both the 9500ci and STi-R are both premium priced / premium range detectors. Any difference in performance between these three I do attribute to antenna placement and attenuation of the Radar signal by the windshield.

    NOTE: The STi-R has the same SMD's in the center of the K and Ka LO transmission lines which are not present in the STI photos.
    Last edited by nine_c1; 09-28-2009 at 06:58 PM.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    My main question is can the redline actually compare to the V1 on laser detection or is it as useless as my 9500ix?

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monoxcide View Post
    My main question is can the redline actually compare to the V1 on laser detection or is it as useless as my 9500ix?
    Not a chance, the Valentine is the king of laser detection, followed by whistler.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    They're all useless on laser.

    "Buy the BEST and screw the rest." - fire65

    "im intrested to see how well you do.i never seen a car JTG before would be a first for me.." - radarrob

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by thestaton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Monoxcide View Post
    My main question is can the redline actually compare to the V1 on laser detection or is it as useless as my 9500ix?
    Not a chance, the Valentine is the king of laser detection, followed by whistler.
    Whistler? I have never heard that they have better laser performance than other brands. I agree with the other posters laser warning is almost useless, but unless the newer models do alot better than the older ones it's seems like Whistler is near the bottom for laser detection. Here are some of the Veil guys test results.






    Last edited by rocky2; 09-29-2009 at 09:23 AM.

 

 

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