Redline Software Update

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Originally Posted by TSi+WRX

IMO, there was nothing wide spread, just the first few.

^ Again, the statistic can be spun both ways.

What Escort would like us all to think is that the problems were isolated to only a few units - out of hundreds or even thousands sold. And in so far as we, as a community, have been able to see, yes, we've only had a handful of such incidents.

However, the flip side of that equation is to ask a simple, logical, question: what are the odds that the now some half-dozen or so units that are known to be in-circulation in our community, with a couple which have been so lucky as to have been exposed to actual controlled testing scenarios, all have such "glitches." The odds of that happening is pretty astronomical, no?

The statistic can cut both ways - without knowing exactly what's going on, both interpretations are valid.

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Exactly, so since so many are assuming a wide recall and complete failure, im simply stating the obvious alternative. :p

Its somewhere in the middle, but which way its leaning will take more time. Hopefully we will have a confirmation if they can fix the ones with the issue. Some with the reported issue have sent it in and now have it back with the repair. we will see.

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

We have not seen a problem with the RedLine not detecting I/O radar.

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haha, wow. "We can take a look at it" meaning this is the new policy. Since there are no revision numbers these assholes are never going to admit fault.

well. belscort is now back on the ban wagon.

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Originally Posted by Cbr

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

We have not seen a problem with the RedLine not detecting I/O radar.

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The 6000ms alert threshhold makes for a quieter detector. :lol:

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

We have not seen a problem with the RedLine not detecting I/O radar. If you like we can take a look at your RedLine. Please contact our customer service department if you would like to set this up.

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I have not seen this problem with my redline either, what I have seen is it missing quick trigger (radar transmissions less than 1 second) in real world and controlled situations. My question is can I send my Redline in and have the techs tune it to pick up the QT's?

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

I have not seen this problem with my redline either, what I have seen is it missing quick trigger (radar transmissions less than 1 second) in real world and controlled situations. My question is can I send my Redline in and have the techs tune it to pick up the QT's?

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Now that’s the right question. I don’t know of any Belscort that misses I/O any more than any other RD.:thumb2: QT different story.

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

I have not seen this problem with my redline either, what I have seen is it missing quick trigger (radar transmissions less than 1 second) in real world and controlled situations. My question is can I send my Redline in and have the techs tune it to pick up the QT's?

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Your RedLine should be detecting less then 1 second radar signals. Yes, I recommend that we should have a look at it. Not that you are doing this upstatedoc, but operating another non-M3 detector near the RedLine can definitely cause alert delays.

Actually someone recently posted in the Bel forum here that they are noticing faster responses and range out of their STi-R (another M3-based detector) after they stopped using their V1 along with it. Link

I'm not saying this is some magical solution to QT or our official patented company line adressing it. What I am saying is that the emissions from another detector can absolutely cause delayed reaction times or entire misses of a brief radar signal.

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Originally Posted by Cbr

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

We have not seen a problem with the RedLine not detecting I/O radar.

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Sorry Cbr, you are correct, I should say "we have not seen a common problem with RedLine missing I/O".

Yours definitely looked like it was defective from your video alone. What you experienced with yours is not what anyone should expect from a RedLine.

Other than the alert tones/voices and display options being different, you should notice the same detection behavior of an STi Driver just with more range.

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

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Originally Posted by Cbr

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Originally Posted by EscortRadar

We have not seen a problem with the RedLine not detecting I/O radar.

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Sorry Cbr, you are correct, I should say "we have not seen a common problem with RedLine missing I/O".

Yours definitely looked like it was defective from your video alone. What you experienced with yours is not what anyone should expect from a RedLine.

Other than the alert tones/voices and display options being different, you should notice the same detection behavior of an STi Driver just with more range.

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LOL it isn't a common problem anymore as the newer models apparently have been fixed via software. We are talking about the Pre- 1300 serial numbers.:rolleyes: You guys had a problem for sure, as there is no way to deny this.:eek: Fess up geez......:rolleyes: You guys are hiding the software versions on Escort models for a reason. This denial of facts and mis-representation is exactly why I won't buy another Escort product for a while, and not to mention the lack of Q/T support by the way... Like it or not Q/T use is here to stay with Highly widespread use by any agency that equips their vehicle with the very good Stalker DSR 2X! And you can 100% take that to the bank!

Also what will Escort have to say when a "group" jtags the software version # from one of the first 1000 units of Redline and the version # from the newer ones and post this? Who would look like a fool, lol.:eek:
Lemme guess up an excuse just for humor sake, and Please no one take offense...., " Ring Ring... This is dslrip32 CSR, everytime we do an "antennae" repair on the Redline, it also changes the software revision # for Our future reference". See with excuses like I just made up I could actually work for Escort as a CSR.;)

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Originally Posted by dslrip32

LOL it isn't a common problem anymore as the newer models apparently have been fixed via software. We are talking about the Pre- 1300 serial numbers.:rolleyes: You guys had a problem for sure, as there is no way to deny this.:eek: Fess up geez......:rolleyes: You guys are hiding the software versions on Escort models for a reason. This denial of facts and mis-representation is exactly why I won't buy another Escort product for a while, and not to mention the lack of Q/T support by the way... Like it or not Q/T use is here to stay with Highly widespread use by any agency that equips their vehicle with the very good Stalker DSR 2X! And you can 100% take that to the bank!

Also what will Escort have to say when a "group" jtags the software version # from one of the first 1000 units of Redline and the version # from the newer ones and post this? Who would look like a fool, lol.:eek:
Lemme guess up an excuse just for humor sake, and Please no one take offense...., " Ring Ring... This is dslrip32 CSR, everytime we do an "antennae" repair on the Redline, it also changes the software revision # for Our future reference". See with excuses like I just made up I could actually work for Escort as a CSR.;)

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Pretty colors :w00t: