Ticket for obstruction of windshield?

[niran916]

The pigs are like that here in CA, I mounted mines next to the RVM and my back windows are tinted 5% in the back. I can mute it, but if I have a chance I would just remove it and put it away just so I don't get hassled about it.

[NETWizz]

In my State, I am allowed a Trial By Jury, and that is just what I would request.

I would then print out all the pertaining laws and take pictures of my windshield from the driver's position. At that point, I would fully take on the ticket.

I would just be honest with the Jury and tell them, "I am tired of the police always hiding in the bushes."

That said, the most trouble I ever got in was pulling my Radar Detector off my windshield and pointing at it in a way a passing motorist could see it. I was charged with "Obstruction of Justice & Disorderly Conduct."

I plead not guilty to both and the prosecution offered to throw out Disorderly Conduct if I agreed to pay the fine for Obstruction of Justice. I said, "Heck No I am not paying either! I want a trial by jury for them to decide." During my trial:

Officer: I witnessed the defendant pointing at his Radar detector to warn a motorist of an upcoming speed trap obstructing my job.
Judge: Is this true
Me: I am proud to say, "it sure is," and I will do it again. I also flashed my lights to warn on-coming motorists. However, I think the first amendment makes it clear that no law can supersede my freedom of speech.
[Everyone Laughs]
Officer: Why do you even have a Radar Detector are you an excessive speeder?
Me: No; in fact, it slows me down. I got it because I am tired of the predatory tactics of the police hiding in the bushes trying to be sneaky.
Officer: Hiding in the bushes?
Me: Yes, sometimes police hide in the bushes, parking lots, and other obscure areas, but you didn't. You were just driving an unmarked white Ford not wearing your uniform.
[Courtroom Laughs]
Officer: It is a problem? We are just trying to do our jobs protecting the public.. and slow people down. People see our speed traps and they slow down.
Me: Yes, I consider the devious nature of many police contacts to be a problem such as the one when I encountered you. You see, I was actually working with you to protect the people slowing them down by warning them of your speed traps ahead, so they would be "safe" and slow down sooner rather than later.
[Judge Shrugs Shoulders]

[Courtroom and Jury Laugh]

Verdict: Not Guilty

[Zero187]

It's more of an insult that they profit off exploiting us on the roads. Speeding 15-20 over isn't dangerous, and just gives them another excuse to milk us of our cash. Tell him THAT'S the real insult.

[The Chariot]

Does that pouch affect the range of the RD? I have a cd case and tried stuffing the V1 between it and the visor. It fits, but it kinda obscures the front antenna.

I've had no problems with it. At the MOAC against several guns my RD went off at basically the same time as the Blinders, both front and back.

[Monte1]

Did he give a ticket? If so, what was it for and if it was for the tinted windows, he still wrote you up after you showed him the med. card?

He gave a ticket for obstruction of windshield for the detector. Not the tinted windows.

He didn't give you a ticket for obstruction of the windshield. He just made it up.

He gave you a ticket for THIS and because he's an AHOLE: "He comes back and says he didn't see the statute and tells me I should be taking it down or i'm gonna keep getting tickets and how it is an insult to them"

"He said that he knows what I'm trying to do and I'm trying to get away with it by having a detector. He was like we're out here trying to keep it safe and I drive around with a detector."

Is it illegal in your state and do people get obstruction of windshield tickets for having a TomTom, Garmin, Magellan, etc. GPS unit on their windshield with a large suction cup and coiled cord hanging down?

Go to court...lawyer or no lawyer. Screw this idiot. If you've never been to court, don't be afraid. NOTHING HAPPENS other than you getting off completely, paying a reduced fine, or paying the fine. Do your homework and go prepared. Call DMV, the local police, and anybody else that you can think of to find the laws regarding RD's in your state as well as what constitutes obstruction of windshields.

[CJR238]

Install it high to the left of the RVM and when you get pulled over, or a cop is close flip the visor up. I drove through VA like this and no cop ever saw it or had any inkling.

I have a TL too and it has the best ability to mount the unit stealthy, especially if you can mount it on the dots in front of the RVM.

[Monte1]

Here is the NJ statute for obstruction of the windshield:

New Jersey Statute Directory - NJSA 39:3-74. Windshields must be unobstructed and equipped with cleaners

Doesn't look like it says anything about radar detectors or GPS devices. It couldn't possibly be construed as an obstruction with a visor clip high up or on the dashboard.

Radar detectors are NOT ILLEGAL in NJ:

http://www.1stradardetectors.com/rad...ector-laws.php


And here is a FORUM with NJ LEO'S a few years ago. Take note of the 2nd and 3rd post in the forum where these two cowboys get off on giving tickets to guys with radar detectors for obstruction of the windshield and laugh about it. If nobody fights it and just pays the $54 ticket, they'll keep getting away with it. I'll say it again...A$$HOLES TO THE NTH DEGREE!

Windshield Obstruction -

Go to court...

[akarol]

Concealed visor mount FTW.

He would have saw that too. Anything that is visible form my line of sight to the windshield is an obstruction.

Need to show you pictures of my setup. You can't see it from outside the vehicle --- only the driver can see it.

No I mean he would see when they walk up to the car.

That's what I mean as well. You can be standing anywhere outside my vehicle and you can't see it. My RD mounts in a special pouch on the visor. The pouch holds my CDs and paperwork, as well as the RD hidden. Has a drop down flap for the RD itself, so you can even cover up the display if you need to.

Undercover Radar Detector Sun Visor Holder - Radar Detector Accessories at Radar Busters

In my setup you can't even see the cable, and the RD fits entirely inside the pocket.

Neat idea. However, due to my 9500ix's buttons on top, the "pouch" idea is unfeasible.

[nosbusa]

Here is the NJ statute for obstruction of the windshield:

New Jersey Statute Directory - NJSA 39:3-74. Windshields must be unobstructed and equipped with cleaners

Doesn't look like it says anything about radar detectors or GPS devices. It couldn't possibly be construed as an obstruction with a visor clip high up or on the dashboard.

Radar detectors are NOT ILLEGAL in NJ:

Radar Detector Laws regarding the Passport 9500ix, Escort 9500ci and Bel STi Driver


And here is a FORUM with NJ LEO'S a few years ago. Take note of the 2nd and 3rd post in the forum where these two cowboys get off on giving tickets to guys with radar detectors for obstruction of the windshield and laugh about it. If nobody fights it and just pays the $54 ticket, they'll keep getting away with it. I'll say it again...A$$HOLES TO THE NTH DEGREE!

Windshield Obstruction -

Go to court...

Good find..

I agree, he should go to court..

Imo. This is just like LEO's giving people tickets for flashing their lights to warn others of a radar trap, when there are no laws on the books against this. People have fought it and won. Now if the laws are written different that's another matter. But if there are no laws against it, I would not sit down, shut up, and pay the ticket.

If I went before a Judge, for something like this. I would hire an attorney.. Why?

Here's some advise from an attorney, that I had e-mailed to me...

Lawyers have an expression, which is, "A lawyer who represents himself, has a fool for a client." So, if your not a lawyer and you represent your self, you can imagine what SOME judges (who are lawyers) will think of you--a big fool.

While you may be very intelligent, they may think you are foolish nevertheless going to fight without an attorney. Plus, judges, though they are supposed to be objective, have biases like anyone. You have biases against cops and so do I. Plus, judges like to protect their own (lawyers) making sure we have jobs (clients) and they do not like to get into debates with non-officers of the court (attorneys are officers of the court).

This is why I won't go to court without one.. I've been burned before trying to rep myself.. The judge didn't want to hear anything I had to say.

[Monte1]

Here is the NJ statute for obstruction of the windshield:

New Jersey Statute Directory - NJSA 39:3-74. Windshields must be unobstructed and equipped with cleaners

Doesn't look like it says anything about radar detectors or GPS devices. It couldn't possibly be construed as an obstruction with a visor clip high up or on the dashboard.

Radar detectors are NOT ILLEGAL in NJ:

Radar Detector Laws regarding the Passport 9500ix, Escort 9500ci and Bel STi Driver


And here is a FORUM with NJ LEO'S a few years ago. Take note of the 2nd and 3rd post in the forum where these two cowboys get off on giving tickets to guys with radar detectors for obstruction of the windshield and laugh about it. If nobody fights it and just pays the $54 ticket, they'll keep getting away with it. I'll say it again...A$$HOLES TO THE NTH DEGREE!

Windshield Obstruction -

Go to court...

Good find..

I agree, he should go to court..

Imo. This is just like LEO's giving people tickets for flashing their lights to warn others of a radar trap, when there are no laws on the books against this. People have fought it and won. Now if the laws are written different that's another matter. But if there are no laws against it, I would not sit down, shut up, and pay the ticket.

If I went before a Judge, for something like this. I would hire an attorney.. Why?

Here's some advise from an attorney, that I had e-mailed to me...

Lawyers have an expression, which is, "A lawyer who represents himself, has a fool for a client." So, if your not a lawyer and you represent your self, you can imagine what SOME judges (who are lawyers) will think of you--a big fool.

While you may be very intelligent, they may think you are foolish nevertheless going to fight without an attorney. Plus, judges, though they are supposed to be objective, have biases like anyone. You have biases against cops and so do I. Plus, judges like to protect their own (lawyers) making sure we have jobs (clients) and they do not like to get into debates with non-officers of the court (attorneys are officers of the court).

This is why I won't go to court without one.. I've been burned before trying to rep myself.. The judge didn't want to hear anything I had to say.

I agree with you about obtaining an attorney and the reasons you illustrated in your post. However, I don't think anyone does because their fee would far exceed the fine of $54, so it's easier and more economical to just pay and forget it. That's why these yahoos can keep writing one ticket after another to fill the coffers and get away with it.

Would I pay an attorney?? YES, in a NJ minute!! I'd do it out of principle. Then I'd get a visor mount for the future so nothing was attached to the window. I know you can purchase a visor clip for the Redline but I don't know about the other Escort models.