Re: Got the Wrong Detector!
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Silver Bullet
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cooljay
I honestly don't pick sides in the whole RD battle. EVERY RD HAS ITS OWN FAULTS, end of story. You can always find something wrong with anything electronic.
Honestly these forums use to be pretty good place to come and discuss things in a civil manner but it seems everyone gets on their high horse that THEIR detector is better than YOURS, no matter what it is. Honestly I wish the mods would step in and stop all that B$ but some of the mods themselves are guilty of this very same thing. This should be a place to be able to discuss things in a civil way and without the fear of being flamed by the fan bois.
But eh, that's just my 2 cents. ;)
+1^...well said cooljay!!! Too many "my brother can beat up your brother" arguments.
I run a CI and absolutely love it...but that definitely doesn't mean it's perfect by any means. That said, if you don't mind spending the money I personally don't see why anyone would want anything else. Having everything in one neat package is definitely the way to go. The shifters aren't the best but remember, many have had JTG success with the ZR4's on multiple guns...it really all depends on your vehicle how well they work. But to say they are complete garbage is false...ask CJR about his ZR4 tests!
As for other detectors, I did have a Whistler back in the day (can't remember what model) that saved my butt numerous times. It really was a great RD that paid for itself numerous times. This was back in the early 90's though and things have changed a lot since. Not bashing anyone, but I would not waste my $$$ on a Cobra or Whistler in today's environment...but hey, to each his own.
And the Belscort Q/T "issue", I'm sorry but this is blown waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. The M3 platform of my CI provides more than enough protection and I am beyond confident that if I'm ever in a situation where I'm owned by Q/T or I/O, more often than not a V1 or Whistler would be owned as well.
X2, we argue about the negative 10% way too much and neglect the 90% of the positive these tools provide. Its all semantics.
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I'll honestly say that I haven't ran one detector that I have considered perfect to suit my needs. I am just sick of all of the brand wars that have been plaguing this forum. Every brand has something to offer, even Cobra.
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Thank You Cooljay. I noticed this after only a couple days on this site. Some are really bad, true, but the high-end RD's all are more than capable.
Re: Got the Wrong Detector!
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Originally Posted by
Obsidian
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Originally Posted by
cooljay
I honestly don't pick sides in the whole RD battle. EVERY RD HAS ITS OWN FAULTS, end of story. You can always find something wrong with anything electronic.
Honestly these forums use to be pretty good place to come and discuss things in a civil manner but it seems everyone gets on their high horse that THEIR detector is better than YOURS, no matter what it is. Honestly I wish the mods would step in and stop all that B$ but some of the mods themselves are guilty of this very same thing. This should be a place to be able to discuss things in a civil way and without the fear of being flamed by the fan bois.
But eh, that's just my 2 cents. ;)
X2. There is no perfect detector. However, you can bet it if ever happens it will come from Escort. Valentine has no innovation and I doubt they even have a R&D team any more.
Escort is close ... as soon as they add speed and combine it with their GPS technology, that's it really. A fast Redline with GPS would be the end of the argument. Arrows would be icing, but not 100% necessary IMO.
X2! The day is getting closer. A fast Redline ix! Until then, I can wait.
And right on, Cooljay! ;)
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X2, we argue about the negative 10% way too much and neglect the 90% of the positive these tools provide.
I disagree. Harping on the negatives of each brand is the best way to make the manufacturers improve their weak points.
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Its all semantics.
It's definitely not semantics. I've had encounters where I would have PWNED if I had been running just the 9500ci, or running just the V1 and those are the two best detectors on the market. Lesser RDs are worse, sometimes much worse. Better performance means better protection and every one of these manufacturers has plenty of room for improvement. We gotta keep pushing them.
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I disagree. Harping on the negatives of each brand is the best way to make the manufacturers improve their weak points.
Better performance means better protection and every one of these manufacturers has plenty of room for improvement. We gotta keep pushing them.
Well said.
If you still need two detectors to provide adequate protection against existing threats, then the manufacturers have not achieved product excellence and deserve some drumming for the shortcomings in their product.
I'm still in the market for an RD that can catch every radar shot at the furthest range possible, and I want that RD to TELL ME when it's popped a diode before I find out the hard way.;) I don't think this RD has been built yet.
Re: Got the Wrong Detector!
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djrams80
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CJR238
X2, we argue about the negative 10% way too much and neglect the 90% of the positive these tools provide.
I disagree. Harping on the negatives of each brand is the best way to make the manufacturers improve their weak points.
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CJR238
Its all semantics.
It's definitely not semantics. I've had encounters where I would have PWNED if I had been running just the 9500ci, or running just the V1 and those are the two best detectors on the market. Lesser RDs are worse, sometimes much worse. Better performance means better protection and every one of these manufacturers has
plenty of room for improvement. We gotta keep pushing them.
I disagree, harping hasn't done much of anything for us. I haven't seen virtually anything we complain about get fixed. More so in a timely fashion. No QT fix since forever, no GPS on the V1, no fully stealth V1, no ramp up fix for Escorts ect...
But my point was we argue about the negative 10% way too much, and neglect the 90% of the positive like i said.
Yes it is semantics, tit for tat, arguments about minor differences, this vs that technical discussion, and not the real advantages like you mentioned. Semantics.
I don't disagree there is room for improvement, but most of the time it becomes a battle of wills on the smallest thing, and not the real things they need to improve. All they see is a big pile of s$!t they have to sift through to guess at what we really want.
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On the other side of the coin, with all the "brand wars" and personal vendettas and conspiracies in the CM business it's hard for a newcomer like myself to get real unbiased reviews/statistics/test results/etc. and not have to spend $500 to test things for myself. It seemed like every time I found a website or test result chart that I thought was creditable I would find out shortly after that a member was selling something or related to the company somehow or had a vendetta, etc. It's actually pretty destructive to the CM business and community as a whole.
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On the other side of the coin, with all the "brand wars" and personal vendettas and conspiracies in the CM business it's hard for a newcomer like myself to get real unbiased reviews/statistics/test results/etc. and not have to spend $500 to test things for myself. It seemed like every time I found a website or test result chart that I thought was creditable I would find out shortly after that a member was selling something or related to the company somehow or had a vendetta, etc. It's actually pretty destructive to the CM business and community as a whole.
X2, very disappointing for a newcomer and quite confusing. :o
Re: Got the Wrong Detector!
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Originally Posted by
Unkind
On the other side of the coin, with all the "brand wars" and personal vendettas and conspiracies in the CM business it's hard for a newcomer like myself to get real unbiased reviews/statistics/test results/etc. and not have to spend $500 to test things for myself. It seemed like every time I found a website or test result chart that I thought was creditable I would find out shortly after that a member was selling something or related to the company somehow or had a vendetta, etc. It's actually pretty destructive to the CM business and community as a whole.
GOL's tests are credible. Also, if you want to see countermeasures that you are interested in purchasing in action, do some searching on this forum and you'll find plenty of videos.
